Samsung Unveils Galaxy S9 Series Smartphones With Dual Lens Variable Aperture Camera and AR Emoji

[Cesar Battistini]

I couldn't care less, and it would be appreciated if this "news" where not reported.

They are a company that goes on the opposite direction. They pollute the environment, they bloat their devices with useless gimmicky software that are discontinued very soon, and they get away with all of it!

Apple makes the tiniest slip and it's everywhere!

 

[blairh]

Okay so reading comprehension is not a strong point, that's cool but I'll try one more time...

Most people buy their phones from the carriers. You see, that's why the carriers charge more for them than buying direct from Samsung. I'd expect that about 90% of S9 and S9+ sales will be from carrier stores. Geeks might buy from Samsung but the normal regular everyday Joe and Jane will buy from their carrier.

So lets recap:

You've been hating on the X and complaining about the price for a while now. I stated the S9 and S9+ would be close to the X and listed what I predicted the prices would be.

Here again (for the 3rd time) was what I said the prices would be. Maybe you can grasp it this time?
Link to post: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-much-hate-for-the-iphone-x.2099904/page-6#post-25813840

iPhone 8 = $700 ($300 difference)
iPhone 8 Plus = $800 ($200 difference)
Galaxy S9 = $800-$850 (rumored) ($150-$200 difference)
Galaxy S9+ = $900-$950 (rumored) ($100-$50 difference)
Galaxy Note 8 = $950 ($50 difference)
iPhone X = $999

I don't see the X as being that far from the new normal as far as major brand flagships and pricing goes. I do think the X is $100 overpriced though. I think $899 is about right for it and if it were priced there maybe there would be less hate.

Now compare my price guess with a few of the carrier prices:

AT&T: S9 for $790 and the S9+ for $915
Verizon: S9 for $800 and the S9+ for $930
Sprint: S9 for $792 and the S9+ for $912

I hope at this point that comprehension is setting in. If not maybe you can try and read the post several times? It's worth a shot...

I suppose a few month from now you'll be back comparing a grade B S9 woot price to the X as well eh?

I love how you insult my reading comprehension and then continue to omit facts to support your incorrect narrative. Funny how you don’t include T-Mobile pricing in your latest reply, huh? Maybe that’s because they are selling the S9 at $720? But seeing that how doesn’t help your argument it goes unsaid. Got it.

Look, you were wrong. And you continue to say otherwise. If the phone is available at $720 at Samsung and T-Mobile, that's the retail price. If the iPhone X were $900 at Apple.com and Apple.com alone, that would be the price, even if it were to cost more at carriers.

You kept insisting the S9 would cost more this year. It doesn't. It actually costs less than the S8 at launch last year. The difference in price between the S9 at $720 and the iPhone X at $1000 is startling. I made that point before the S9 keynote on here, and it's only become fact now that we have official pricing.

 

[Whoakapi]

What I really would like to know is:

- Is the face unlock improved compared to S8. Is it safer?
- Is there any actual improvement for the finger-print reader? It seems to me that it's placed in an even worse location than on the S8. I'm not sure I see the point in rotating the reader 90 degrees?

 

[Rogifan]

Wow most reviews aren’t being too kind to AR emoji. I’m not sure why they’re comparing it to Animoji though. To me it’s just a riff on Bitmoji or any other app/game that lets you create custom avatars to look like you.

 

[dannyyankou]

I think Animoji is dumb, but I’d rather use that than a cartoon version of myself. They’re kinda horrifying.

 

[curtvaughan]

No one liked touchscreen phones before 2007. Using your logic, no one should have bought the original iPhone, and we should all still be using phones with physical buttons.

My point is, I don't believe I've seen anyone on this forum who owns an iPhone X and considers the notch to be a problem, or even noticeable, after a small amount of time using the device. Surely, if it were truly such a large a problem, owners of the device would be complaining about it. But the only people who complain are people who don't own the device.

That's a bit like saying that the only people who complain about iPhones without phone jacks are people who don't buy iPhones without phone jacks. The only people who complain about lack of ports on Apple laptops are people who no longer buy Apple laptops because they have so few ports. If you bought an iPhone X, despite lack of phone jacks, notch, and huge price, then you are a person who doesn't care about those issues.

 

[MacBH928]

The problem is the software, Android is horrible. Just like Windows in PC plus all that secret data minning
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[raqball]

I love how you insult my reading comprehension and then continue to omit facts to support your incorrect narrative. Funny how you don’t include T-Mobile pricing in your latest reply, huh? Maybe that’s because they are selling the S9 at $720? But seeing that how doesn’t help your argument it goes unsaid. Got it.

Umm, ahhh... Maybe because T-Mobile does not do financing like the other carriers do... With T-Mobile most are required to put down a hefty amount of cash, even with good credit..

T-Mobile S8: Awesome credit (about 20% qualify for this) $30 down ---> Average credit (most fall here with T-Mobile) $582 down...

I dunno, maybe research a little before making absurd remarks to try and prove your incorrect argument?

The X is not really all that out of line pricing wise when compared to the carrier pricing on the S9 and S9+. If you remember correctly (and I even quoted my post here 3 times for you) I did say I thought the X was overpriced by $100...

Give it a rest. Your argument has been proven bogus and incorrect via carrier pricing on the S9 and S9+

 

[RickInHouston]

The problem is the software, Android is horrible. Just like Windows in PC plus all that secret data minning
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What is so horrible about it? It's not dumbed down enough for you? It's so open and you have so many choices that it can complicate your life?

 

[blairh]

Okay so reading comprehension is not a strong point, that's cool but I'll try one more time...

Most people buy their phones from the carriers. You see, that's why the carriers charge more for them than buying direct from Samsung. I'd expect that about 90% of S9 and S9+ sales will be from carrier stores. Geeks might buy from Samsung but the normal regular everyday Joe and Jane will buy from their carrier.

So lets recap:

You've been hating on the X and complaining about the price for a while now. I stated the S9 and S9+ would be close to the X and listed what I predicted the prices would be.

Here again (for the 3rd time) was what I said the prices would be. Maybe you can grasp it this time?
Link to post: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-much-hate-for-the-iphone-x.2099904/page-6#post-25813840

iPhone 8 = $700 ($300 difference)
iPhone 8 Plus = $800 ($200 difference)
Galaxy S9 = $800-$850 (rumored) ($150-$200 difference)
Galaxy S9+ = $900-$950 (rumored) ($100-$50 difference)
Galaxy Note 8 = $950 ($50 difference)
iPhone X = $999

I don't see the X as being that far from the new normal as far as major brand flagships and pricing goes. I do think the X is $100 overpriced though. I think $899 is about right for it and if it were priced there maybe there would be less hate.

Now compare my price guess with a few of the carrier prices:

AT&T: S9 for $790 and the S9+ for $915
Verizon: S9 for $800 and the S9+ for $930
Sprint: S9 for $792 and the S9+ for $912

I hope at this point that comprehension is setting in. If not maybe you can try and read the post several times? It's worth a shot...

I suppose a few month from now you'll be back comparing a grade B S9 woot price to the X as well eh?

I love how you insult my reading comprehension and then continue to omit facts to support your incorrect narrative. Funny how you don’t include T-Mobile pricing, huh? Maybe that’s because they are selling the S9 at $720? But seeing that how doesn’t help your argument it goes unsaid. Got it.

Look you were wrong. And you continue to say otherwise. If the phone is available for $720 at Samsung and T-Mobile, then that’s the price of the phone st

Umm, ahhh... Maybe because T-Mobile does not do financing like the other carriers do... With T-Mobile most are required to put down a hefty amount of cash, even with good credit..

T-Mobile S8: Awesome credit (less than 20% get this) $30 down ---> Average credit (most fall here with T-Mobile) $582 down...

I dunno, maybe research a little before making absurd remarks to try and prove your incorrect argument?

Regardless of what you put down up front you still pay $720 for the phone. So that fact is utterly irrelevant. Thanks though.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

Not sure why Macrumors is covering Samsung product releases.

Um...because Samsung is Apple's main competition?

 

[Kiorr]

Anyone know what material its made of?
Dont like the glass design apple is going for these days

 

[raqball]

Regardless of what you put down up front you still pay $720 for the phone. So that fact is utterly irrelevant. Thanks though.

Try to understand what you read and follow the conversation..

Most people buy their phones form the carrier = Check!
T-Mobile requires a hefty down payment if you credit score in less than 750 = Check!
Most are not going to put $600 down payment for the T-Mobile version (assume T-Mo won't sell many) = Check!
The carrier prices are relevant since that's where most buy from = Check!

The price difference therefore, unless you buy from Samsung (most regular consumers won't) or pay full price at T-Mobile is as follows:

iPhone X = $999
Galaxy S9 (AT&T) $790 ($210 difference)
Galaxy S9+ (AT&T) $915 ($85 difference)
Galaxy Note 8 (AT&T) $950 ($50 difference)

Not really the night and day difference you clamber on about now is it?

 

[matjamca]

The front of the S8 and S9 is so much better than the iPhone X. The notch ruins the X.

 

[curtvaughan]

I would bet that the headphone jack will disappear from the soon to be released update to the S9. Apple and other manufacturers were correct that it's one of those legacy technologies whose time is up.

Bet you don't use nice wired headphones - when wireless headphone technology overtakes wired headphone technology then perhaps the "legacy" technology's time is up. For the near future I won't be buying any phone without a headphone jack, nor a computer without a variety of USB and SD ports. You can bet that the designer of this phone did some math before deciding not to ditch the headphone jack. Iphone users who continue to buy iPhones regardless of missing sound jacks wouldn't be swayed to Android by its inclusion of a jack (or lack thereof). Former iPhone users, who miss the headphone jack, will gravitate to companies who still provide it. If it wasn't a big deal, there wouldn't be so many folks who still bemoan the loss of the jack on iPhones. I hope Samsung (and other phone manufacturers) continue to understand that.

 

[raqball]

The front of the S8 and S9 is so much better than the iPhone X. The notch ruins the X.

The print reader on the back and the bezels on the front ruin the S9..... Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

 

[1050792]

The print reader on the back and the bezels on the front ruin the S9..... Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

So I guess you spend the time looking at your phones back instead of front? Different strokes for different folks I suppose...

 

[raqball]

So I guess you spend the time looking at your phones back instead of front? Different strokes for different folks I suppose...

The person I quoted and responded to said the back of the S9 looks better than the X.................... The back of the S9 does not look better than the X. Does the front? Sure to the notch haters.. But ----> Come on now, do people read before responding these days?

 

[rishic89]

Good for you, and you'd still be using your precious BT headphones today if the headphone jack was still there.

What's your point?

Im sure you still use cassette's, AUX ports, phys

So you prefer headphones with poorer sound quality for a given price plus the latency issues. Your choice.

Obviously you haven't used the airpods. Wireless is the future. Apple watch has no ports on it, no one cares. iPhone will not need a charging port soon enough either. FYI you can still use wired headphones on iPhones and they actually come with the phone unlike google pixel

 

[Cankoda]

How's that? I work in ships construction and I have to take off my gloves (to swipe up) and my dust mask to unlock.
Quite a step backwards the face id for now..

That’s your job, myn is different. I don’t have to wear a face mask and I don’t wear gloves for work but my hands get super dusty so Touch ID does t work, but Face ID always has.

 

[definitive]

The print reader on the back and the bezels on the front ruin the S9..... Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

calm down. if the huge top and bottom bezel on every iphone (up to 8th) didn't ruin Apple's phones throughout all these years, then a thin bezel on top and bottom of s9 won't ruin the phone either.

 

[Bignotsmall]

This is ....embarrassing.

 

[raqball]

calm down. if the huge top and bottom bezesl on every iphone (up to 8th) didn't ruin Apple's phones throughout all these years, then a thin bezel on top and bottom of s9 won't ruin the phone either.

My comment about the front was in jest because of all the notch hate. My comment about the print reader on the back is legit since the person I responded to said the back of the S9 looks better than the X which to me is bogus. The X is clean looking on the back and the S9? Not so much..

 

[rishic89]

You are right about the battery, it will indeed require a new battery but they could built the headphones in such a way that the average consumer can replace the battery. I am not going to buy the AirPods or Beats as a matter of fact. There are 3rd party solutions that are cheaper and don't have wires. I also hate wires hanging around to be honest.

You must be wishing for wired phones to come back. You know they don't need batteries that will need replacement. Maybe even a wired car that will never need to be charged. Tesla should jump on that. Maybe even start adding cassette players in cars again. Maybe even start using feathers as a form of currency. Just devolve altogether

 

[blairh]

Try to understand what you read and follow the conversation..

Most people buy their phones form the carrier = Check!
T-Mobile requires a hefty down payment if you credit score in less than 750 = Check!
Most are not going to put $600 down payment for the T-Mobile version (assume T-Mo won't sell many) = Check!
The carrier prices are relevant since that's where most buy from = Check!

The price difference therefore, unless you buy from Samsung (most regular consumers won't) or pay full price at T-Mobile is as follows:

iPhone X = $999
Galaxy S9 (AT&T) $790 ($210 difference)
Galaxy S9+ (AT&T) $915 ($85 difference)
Galaxy Note 8 (AT&T) $950 ($50 difference)

Not really the night and day difference you clamber on about now is it?

I love how you can just assume T-MO won't sell many S9's and carry it off as fact. It's honestly hilarious. Hey you got this all figured out man.

You also discount how many people will purchase outside carrier stores like Best Buy, which is offering $100 if you pre-order.

Plus more consumers will indeed purchase from Samsung if they know they can save money versus their carrier.

I never once said in the past that the S9+ or Note 8 pricing was a huge difference versus the iPhone X. I specifically said the S9 this entire time in any thread. Nice try. Lastly, the phone retails for $719. Period. And yes, a $210 price difference between Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon versus the iPhone X (starting price by the way) is a huge difference. Cheers. I'm done with your nonsense at putting you on the ignore list for good.