Samsung Unveils New Gear S3 Smart Watch With GPS and LTE [Update: Will Support iPhone]

[Mac 128]

Heres the one my wife likes, size is about the same as the 42mm Apple watch. Unfortunately I don't think anyone makes one the same size as the 38mm Apple watch.

Yes, Apple really has the market cornered on the smart watch for women. One could argue that the 38mm watch is what saved it, it was a brilliant move to set that target goal.
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It's 50% bigger the size of the big Apple Watch, it's a monster. It'sfunny, how everytime one comes out that's round we get the same comment and when we see them in person (go to the long line of failed watches at Best Buy), they're basically the same crap quality build as usual.
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How is that better for actually USING THE THING. The smart watches aren't just watches you know..
And such a design would be bigger than the 42mm BTW.

I'm sorry, what? Where are you getting that it's 50% bigger than the Watch?

These are the actual dimensions:

Apple Watch 49.42 x 38.03 x 12.46mm
Samsung S 49.00 x 46.00 x 12.9mm

And of course a 42mm round Watch would be larger than the current 42mm rectangular Watch. And 42mm round watches are a fairly common size. So what's your point?

 

[AppleScruff1]

Maybe not calculate, but they'll look and feel the bulk of a watch when they are buying one, and that'll factor into their decision, if one is noticeably bulkier than the other.

As for choice, how do I have a choice if Samsung doesn't offer a smaller watch? That limits my choice.



So they have two sizes? I looked at their website and I only found reference to one size.

If you don't like what Samsung offers, you can buy Apple, etc. My point was it is good to be able to choose a larger watch if you like, or round or square. All good for us consumers. Some people actually prefer a larger, bulkier watch. Others light slim and trim.

 

[Fernandez21]

If you don't like what Samsung offers, you can buy Apple, etc. My point was it is good to be able to choose a larger watch if you like, or round or square. All good for us consumers. Some people actually prefer a larger, bulkier watch. Others light slim and trim.

Their point was that in the small category there really isnt a choice, it's apple or nothing. Just like with phones at the 4" size.

 

[Night Spring]

BT 42.3 x 49.8 x 11.4 mm
BT classic 39.9 x 43.6 x 11.4 mm

Apple Watch 42mm
Height: 42.0mm
Width: 35.9mm
Depth: 10.5mm

Apple Watch 38mm
Height: 38.6mm
Width: 33.3mm
Depth: 10.5mm

I know one is round and one is square, but seems like the smaller Samsung watch is closer in size to the larger Apple Watch?

 

[duervo]

I like how it looks, but that video offers absolutely nothing else with regards to info about it.

Support for the iPhone is a good move. Time will tell just how seamless that support will be. Maybe ... just maybe, I could be looking at a new future watch that I could buy. We'll see.

 

[ignatius345]

Diver's watches (or faux-ones) aren't really my style, but I could see wearing this WAY sooner than the Apple Watch, just based on looks simply because it looks... like a watch.

 

[Fernandez21]

It's 50% bigger the size of the big Apple Watch, it's a monster. It'sfunny, how everytime one comes out that's round we get the same comment and when we see them in person (go to the long line of failed watches at Best Buy), they're basically the same crap quality build as usual.
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How is that better for actually USING THE THING. The smart watches aren't just watches you know..
And such a design would be bigger than the 42mm BTW.

Here is my square stainless steel Apple watch next to my round gear s2 classic. As you can see, theyre practically the same size, though my gear s2 is quite a bit thicker because it's the 3g model.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

I understood the size comment, but what did you mean by the 'OS does you know good?'

Well I said "no good," and it means just that -- a Tizen OS watch is useless to me. I'm not interested in having to load apps from another "store" or hope iOS support is consistent or worthwhile or have to use Samsung Pay.

 

[Tech198]

Didn't i come across this before ?

But ya for the update

 

[69Mustang]

Apple Watch 42mm
Height: 42.0mm
Width: 35.9mm
Depth: 10.5mm

Apple Watch 38mm
Height: 38.6mm
Width: 33.3mm
Depth: 10.5mm

I know one is round and one is square, but seems like the smaller Samsung watch is closer in size to the larger Apple Watch?

You're referencing the case dimensions Apple uses in marketing material. The actual dimensions of the watch are larger. There are several posts floating in this thread with the actual dimensions of the watch. But you are correct. The S2 is more in line with the size of the 42mm Apple watch. I think the closest you'll get to a smaller round smartwatch will be the upcoming Asus Zen3. They have colors and bands (18mm) that cater to women. Supposedly 9.5mm thick, but that could be the same case dimensions scenario that Apple uses in marketing.

 

[Flow39]

Did you also find the iPhone's use of skeuomorphism for years to be "offensive"?



We've been through this discussion many times already. Those of us with both smartwatch shapes have found little difference in real life viewing of information.

Re: sometimes more scrolling. So what. Literally millions of people have chosen the smaller Apple Watch and it also must scroll more.

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Re: square data in round face... the same limitations work the other way around... and yet that did not stop Apple from creating round watch faces and using round UI paradigms.

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Here's the thing. If Apple had been the first one to come out with a circular always-on display... while all other companies were still using 1980s style rectangular displays turning on with a wrist flick... then fanboys would be singing the praises of Apple's innovation, uniqueness, and style advantage.

And everyone knows it. Including, I suspect, Apple, who is bound to one day come out with a round model themselves. At which time those who are dissing round displays, will look just as silly as people did for dissing larger phone displays, smaller tablets, or soon, OLED screens. You'd think that people would eventually learn from history!

I'm pretty much done with arguing this. I DO own a round smart watch. I have had months of experience with it. I have tried out multiple watches with different sizes and shapes for extended periods of time. I'm not dissing round displays. I like them a lot, they look far better than square watches and I would have no problem if Apple were to go with them one day.

There is some difference between the usage of both round and square faces. I find that the square, at least for me, makes more sense. As shown in my picture, more info can be displayed per line (unless the scaling and formatting can be changed to allow for edge to edge text, not limited by an internal polygon in software.) Backgrounds and photos are not cut off. The round faces do look very good though and look better than a round face on a square watch.

However I personally prefer square displays. I showed the advantages of them and how much wasted space some circular watches have. This doesn't mean that I hate circular watches; as I mentioned, I love the aesthetic appeal of them.
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The Kool Aide is strong with you.

Sure it is buddy. I've used all platforms and I even hated Apple for a long time. If you want to go through my post history, you can see that if you look back about a year. I have used all 3 major smart watch platforms and can unbiasedly tell you that I believe the Apple Watch is the best, followed (very) closely by the Pebble, with Android Wear in (a distant) last place.

Just because I prefer a platform does not make me a kool aid drinker. If you want me to expand on why I rated those 3 platforms like I did, I'd be glad to explain. Just don't call me a sheep or a kool-aid drinker, you don't even know me.

 

[Mac 128]

Apple Watch 42mm
Height: 42.0mm
Width: 35.9mm
Depth: 10.5mm

Apple Watch 38mm
Height: 38.6mm
Width: 33.3mm
Depth: 10.5mm

I know one is round and one is square, but seems like the smaller Samsung watch is closer in size to the larger Apple Watch?

These measurements are wrong. Here are the actual measurements, which explain why they're essentially the same size:

Apple Watch 49.42 x 38.03 x 12.46mm
Samsung S 49.00 x 46.00 x 12.9mm

 

[44267547]

Well I said "no good," and it means just that -- a Tizen OS watch is useless to me. I'm not interested in having to load apps from another "store" or hope iOS support is consistent or worthwhile or have to use Samsung Pay.

That's what I thought you meant reference Tizen. I would have to agree with you. Shame. Beautiful piece of hardware though.

 

[Flow39]

Talk about blind love... How can you ignore the painstaking slowness of the apple watch? I really would like to love it, but it's just so bloody slow and unresponsive at times that even the iPhone4 with IOS7 fells like proper lightning. If AW2 with watchOS3 is not in the 3-5 times faster ballpark, then i'll skip AW all together.

Yep, you got me, I love Apple blindly. Don't even bother letting me explain before you jump on the "let's call him a sheep" bandwagon.

Slowness? The Apple Watch is no slower than Android Wear watches that I've used. Sure, neither are blazing fast but they get the job done. I never have apps take more than 5 seconds to load, third party or stock. The Pebble is definitely the fastest and smoothest of the 3. Oh, and watchOS 3 will make apps load instantly, completely destroying any claims of slowness. That should be the 3-5 faster number that you want them to meet.

I have not noticed very much sluggishness at all on my watch. Occasionally it will, but it's not a laggy mess. On my Moto 360 however, there are constant lags, stuttering, and frame drops. The Pebble never lags though, in comparison to the occasionally-laggy Apple Watch and the always-laggy Moto 360v2.

 

[shiseiryu1]

I like the look of the watch actually but it is a very manly design; guess they're not really targeting women.

The OS doesn't look that impressive...aside from answering the phone it didn't seem to do much else...and given that it's Tinzen it probably won't do anything else extra in the future.

I do like the look of round watches; but at this point I'd still only ever buy an Apple Watch.

 

[Night Spring]

These measurements are wrong. Here are the actual measurements, which explain why they're essentially the same size:

Apple Watch 49.42 x 38.03 x 12.46mm
Samsung S 49.00 x 46.00 x 12.9mm

I don't have a problem with the 42mm Apple Watch being the same size as the Samsung S2. My point was that I need my watches to be about the size of the 38mm Apple Watch, and as far as I can tell, Samsung doesn't seem to make watches that are that small.

 

[AdonisSMU]

it is way too big, sadly.
but i like the way it looks in the video.
less so in real life.

That's not going to work for me. That watch looks cheap.

 

[44267547]

It's a modern display because there were no mass production, decent resolution, circular OLED wrist displays just a few years ago. It's a consumer tech breakthrough.

As for the shape, yes, a lot of us do like having a watch that looks like a mechanical watch.

We get that you don't agree with any of this, and that's fine. If Apple ever brings out a round watch, I'm sure you'll diss the heck out of it

That particular forum member you replied to, berates just about every Apple Product and Apple itself for that matter.

But in any case, I always learn so much from your posts in the past. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

 

[fabio.lordelo]

It only has four times the battery life of Apple Watch...

Samsung said the Gear S2 would have 2 to 3 days of battery life, but most reviewers observed that the battery lasts for just a day or a day and a half. Most reviews I read stated that the S2 would get to the end of the day with 40 to 50% battery, it's the same thing I get with my Apple Watch 38mm.

Having said that, I'm quite interested in the S3! Mainly for its look and the always on screen.

 

[vertsix]

i have an apple watch and now i am crying after watching this

 

[fieldsphotos]

Well, the 38mm Apple Watch just barely fits me, I can't wear anything larger. It's not the band size, the watch body itself would be larger than the flat part of my wrist.
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Well, currently, if you want a smartwatch smaller than 42mm, then it seems Samsung isn't an option.

Even the S2 is a very large watch for women. I tried one on vs the 38mm Apple Watch:



Samsung is pretty much giving women the finger with the S3. Oh well.

I bought a very nice Pebble Time Round with the 14mm band. It's awesome. Looks like a real watch and is thinner than the 38mm AW. Sure, I give up NFC and the heart rate monitor, but I get a perfectly functional smart watch that looks very elegant, especially when paired with a vintage stainless band:

 

[Mac 128]

I'm pretty much done with arguing this. I DO own a round smart watch. I have had months of experience with it. I have tried out multiple watches with different sizes and shapes for extended periods of time. I'm not dissing round displays. I like them a lot, they look far better than square watches and I would have no problem if Apple were to go with them one day.

There is some difference between the usage of both round and square faces. I find that the square, at least for me, makes more sense. As shown in my picture, more info can be displayed per line (unless the scaling and formatting can be changed to allow for edge to edge text, not limited by an internal polygon in software.) Backgrounds and photos are not cut off. The round faces do look very good though and look better than a round face on a square watch.

However I personally prefer square displays. I showed the advantages of them and how much wasted space some circular watches have. This doesn't mean that I hate circular watches; as I mentioned, I love the aesthetic appeal of them.

You may have missed this post in response to your earlier assertion of this point, so I'll just report it here:

#310

You have to compare Apples to Apples. You're showing Android's square screen to Android's round screen, specifically the Moto 360 with the flat tire, instead of the Huawei that has an edge to edge screen. But here's a direct comparison to the Moto with text:

Note all the unused space when the Watch display is superimposed on the Moto, even with the flat tire. Now here's the same exact text display optimized for the Moto, flat tire and all:

You see that so much more text can be included in the round display than with the Watch square display. Now imagine if this were a Huawei, and not the moto with the flat tire -- there's a lot more additional space to optimize per task.

So no matter how you slice it, a similarly sized round watch even displays text better than the Watch for applications that require that. Of course the Watch gains the lead again when they get rid of those bezels, but for the last 2 years, round watches technically have had the advantage, whether they utilized it effectively or not. If Apple keeps the exact same display and bezels, then that advantage continues on for other manufactures to capitalize on it.

Here's another way optimizing the same display on the Watch is improved on a round watch:

Notice how the Watch does not give the full display of what the iPhone sees, but the round watch of the same dimensions is able to give the full landscape display of the full image taken by the iPhone.

 

[rp2011]

Well it's been a couple of years and the design of the Apple Watch still looks as fresh as ever. Looks better now than when it was released. (Something the 6 series iPhone never managed. Looked dated the day it was released and looks like a shabby relic today)

That's a sign of great design and certain it will end up in a modern art museum along with other Apple products.

That crappy thing Samsung just released that they call a watch needs to go back a 70's trash bin where it came from.

 

[mazz0]

Ewwww! Ugly!

 

[ColdShadow]

Impressive? I'm not impressed at all. Where's the fitness apps? Texts? Looks flimsy. My Apple Watch has withstood my 6-6 day jobs in a factory. The circular bezel looks chinsy

Lol Apple watch's design absolutely sucks comparred to this.
I mean Apple Watch is so ugly that I hobestly refuse one even for free.(fact)
this one though,looks stunning,the most premium looking and beautiful smart watch to date.