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Marketshare % got wider YOY for the quarter.


A much better comparison how and for whom? Forum members. The analytics firms really don't release these reports for our consumption. They're trying to drum up subscribers

Generally speaking. Yes, for you, me, and everyone else interested in Sales figures between the two companies.
 
No they are not ....thrust me, and if someone tells you they are, they are lying and don't want to hurt your feeling.

They might have been funny the very first time, but I am not even sure about that.

On topic, as someone else posted selling more does not mean making more money, sometimes is better to sell "less" but enjoy a better income, after all once you are at the top there is only one way you can go, and Apple right now can go either down or UP!!!

No, I'm not going to "thrust" you, because I "thrust" myself to know what's funny.
 
Love Apple products but worried about the stock. Lately I can see more and more people that use to be iPad users switch to Surface Pro. On my last meeting at university surface outnumbered iPads 3:1. Those people don't care about faction and glamour. They want the job done the most quick and efficient way and apparently surface is a way to go these days. Apple please do something. Don't be blackberry and stay behind. Hybrids and increased functionality is the way to go.
 
Apple is not Samsungs problem... Huawei and Xaiomi are. It's a race to the bottom on the Android side of the house.
It's the combination that's the killer. If Apple wasn't there, Samsung would have a chance in the high end market. Apple and Huawei/Xaiomi coming from both sides is what's killing Samsung.
 
You still #2. #1 still is Samsung. Your lovely apple needs Samsung for displays and memory chips for its Itrash iphones. Samsung sells everything from flagship to low range phones. MY NOTE 5 kicks iphones ass all day
You seem to be taking this very personally.

Samsung _loves_ to supply parts to Apple. Being a supplier is what they are good at. Building phones - not unless they have a good example to copy.
 
In fact when I see an iPhone user, I imagine someone who is older and not teach savy, like a grandma or a teenager. Or some poor guy who drives a beat up Toyota Corolla and owns a pink iPhone 6S. I associate galaxy S6 with a guy in a suite that screams "style" and "sophistication"
I am still trying to decide if this is a joke.

Here in Amsterdam iPhones are so popular that "iPhone" pretty much means "smartphone". I see 15-year-olds, 25-year-old overtly tanned ladies with bare midriffs and VERY long fingernails, businessmen in smart suits, pretty much everyone with iPhones. I'm the sole Sony boy. The only places where I see S6 and S6 Edge is on the ads. I haven't seen an Edge in the wild yet which is kind of irritating because I'm curious what they actually look like. But I only know one person who willingly owns a Samsung and it's a Note. And I love that guy dearly but he doesn't scream "style" and "sophistication". :)
 
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Ignorance implies there is no truth to it.

The "inferior product" is just meaningless, and I'll give credit that Apple is not producing inferior products.

But when a company can boast record profit after record profit, and Very high profit margins (Much higher than the industry standards). Then you look at their financials and their future growth does not even touch most of those profits, which are being stockpiled overseas and out of local economies, while paying their elite level isnane amonuts of money that is virtually unheard of in the world, you have to seriously question whether or not the value you are getting is worth it. Some people think so, (and nothing wrong with that), but eventually you start to feel like you are being taxed by a few very rich people, purely for their benefit.

Lets say, using hypothetical numbers for calculation point;

Apple profit for the year was 50 Billion. So Next year, they grow costs by 30 Billion, then redistribute the rest of that to shareholders and bank a little. It wouldn't feel hinky.

But whats happening:
Apple makes 50 Billion in profit. Does not significantly change costs in future years. Takes 45 bILLION of that and puts it in the banks. and distributes 5 billion to a few dozen people.

Does THAT make you feel better that 45% of that device you spent is going towards that? Does that benefit YOU as a Apple fan? Even Fanboys should be looking at that profiteering questionably. Apple could afford to drop prices by 20% and still be raking in billions in profit, that far exceeds future growth plans, AND cost predictions.

My point was that the ignorance of the post was railing about Apple making a great profit by selling an inferior product, and the insinuation that they are not innovative.

I have no great problem with your position. While I don't necessarily agree with you it does not come from a place of complete hyperbole, ignorance and hatred, like the post to which I was responding.
 
Which is funny, because I know more about electronics and tech than any Andriod user I know. Out of people in my main close group of friends, 3/4 of us who build PCs use iPhones. The current CEO and several directors of the commuter railroad I work for all chose iPhones.

I also dont see what "think different" has to do with it. It's not like people are choosing the S6 because they find it advantagous. I don't think choosing something solely because it's different was what Apple meant. I can choose to walk around with a 10 year old Nokia if my goal is to just look different. Note the "think" part of the quote. If you compared the differences between the two phones and saw advantages that everyone else doesn't see or you were proud of your preference to one device, that'd be one thing and more in line of what "think different" means.

Choosing something just to look cool just comes across as someone who only cares about shallow BS.
Precisely. I've been a "tech head" for a long time, and the longer it goes, I realize I want tech to simply work and get out of my way. I don't want to have to manage crap all the time. The reason I use Apple hardware is the integration and consistency. Period. Things like iCloud Backup, Time Machine, Keychain, Handoff, and various other seemingly small things make my life easier, and are difficult if not impossible to replicate on other platforms. Microsoft may be getting there but that's an entirely different subject.
 
Precisely. I've been a "tech head" for a long time, and the longer it goes, I realize I want tech to simply work and get out of my way. I don't want to have to manage crap all the time. The reason I use Apple hardware is the integration and consistency. Period. Things like iCloud Backup, Time Machine, Keychain, Handoff, and various other seemingly small things make my life easier, and are difficult if not impossible to replicate on other platforms. Microsoft may be getting there but that's an entirely different subject.

I think part of that is just being acclimated to the ecosystem. To someone just starting to use Apple's products, I think there are elements which are easy but also things that can be very confusing. Same with Android. Same with MS. And same with Amazon.
 
Since most of Samsung's sales are cheap low-end models, I don't think Apple is too threatened.
yes. Apple's distributors asked them to stop making/providing them with new 6S models for 3 months because they aren't selling. Apple is definitely threatened. And as a consumer, Samsungs Edge and Note lines are far more interesting than Apple's lame designs.
 



The latest numbers from market research firm Strategy Analytics reveal that Samsung increased its lead over Apple as the world's largest smartphone maker, after shipping 81.3 million smartphones in the fourth quarter of the 2015 calendar year. Apple announced earlier this week that it sold a record 74.8 million iPhones during the same three-month period encompassing the busy holiday shopping season.

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Global smartphone shipments grew 12 percent annually from 1.28 billion in 2014 to a record 1.44 billion in 2015, according to the data. Samsung and Apple contributed 317.2 million and 192.7 million smartphone sales respectively to that worldwide total, while Huawei, Lenovo-Motorola, and Xiaomi rounded off the top five smartphone makers. All other vendors collectively shipped 637.5 million smartphones in 2015.

Samsung led the fourth quarter with 20.1 percent market share, a slight increase over its 19.6 percent market share in the year-ago quarter. Conversely, Apple's fourth quarter market share was 18.5 percent, a slight decline from its 19.6 percent share in the fourth quarter of 2014. Huawei, Lenovo-Motorola and Xiaomi had market shares of 8.1 percent, 5 percent and 4.8 percent respectively.

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In the year-ago quarter, Apple matched Samsung's 74.5 million smartphones shipped on the strength of the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, but its South Korean rival has since pulled ahead again. The comparison is largely unbalanced, however, as Samsung sells dozens of different smartphone models worldwide, while Apple currently only sells the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, and iPhone 5s.

Apple expects iPhone sales will likely decline in the March quarter, marking the first year-over-year decline since the smartphone was released over eight years ago. The decline will be realized if Apple sells fewer than 61.2 million iPhones this quarter, ending in late March. iPhone growth in the just-announced first fiscal quarter of 2016 was the slowest since the smartphone's introduction in 2007.

Strategy Analytics has also published smartphone data for the Chinese market, where Apple trails closely behind Xiaomi and Huawei.

Article Link: Samsung Widens Gap Over Apple in Worldwide Smartphone Market

Estimates are not equal to published sales figures. So all of this is navel gazing.
 
Didn't realise the first iPhone was released that long ago.
Come on. I'm well aware that Apple does a lot of it's own copying, but thats not the point

The idea behind "copy and paste" is ancient in the computing market. There was the ability to copy and paste text back in dos days. The concept behidn it is not novel or new. People were asking fro Copy and Paste because it had been a usable feature in all computing for decades.

The fact that the iPhone released without Copy and Paste, while computing standards, includign Apple's OWN computers, were using it, was a huge oversight
 
I don't know how you can publish this article in good consciousness without mentioning that Samsung makes almost no profits or loses money on each of those units sold.

Also, Year-over-Year is narrowed considerably. Quarterly is the only loss, but Apple has shown the ability to sell more consistently.

Oh yeah, and it's a profitable business.
 
I don't know how you can publish this article in good consciousness without mentioning that Samsung makes almost no profits or loses money on each of those units sold.

They don't publish such mention because it wouldn't be true. Samsung might make low profits on low priced phones, but they aren't losing money by any means. They're simply making fewer billions than usual.

Since most of Samsung's sales are cheap low-end models, I don't think Apple is too threatened.

That's never been true about mostly cheap models. However, yes, now that Apple has phablets, they no longer feel as threatened by Samsung.

Sometime in the not too distant future, things will change again when Samsung Electronics debuts a real folding phone. But not for long, since Samsung Display has said they'll sell such displays to anyone.

It's the combination that's the killer. If Apple wasn't there, Samsung would have a chance in the high end market. Apple and Huawei/Xaiomi coming from both sides is what's killing Samsung.

Exactly.

Until fairly recently, Samsung's sales were about 1/3 low end, 1/3 mid and 1/3 high end. And for years they sold so many in total, that just the 1/3 high end portion was the equivalent of Apple's total sales counts.

Then Huawei and Xioami started hitting Samsung in China from the low end, and Apple finally wised up and came out with phablets to compete with Samsung on the high end.

Worse, Samsung hugely miscalculated demand for the high end Edge, and lost a ton of sales. (Apple did a similar mistake a few years back with the mix ratio for the iPhone 5S/5C, but was able to correct it more quickly then, than Samsung could come up with more curved screens today.)

Now, squeezed at the top and low ends as you said, most of Samsung's sales are likely mid-level priced phones in the $200-240 price range.
 
Once again, the title of an article belies its true content. Apple apparently had a stellar 2015 -> significant exceeding 2014 in every metric (earning almost $35 BILLION more by calendar year, and well over $50 billion more by fiscal year, while profits increased by over $10 billion!), and narrowing the gap with Samsung in market share by another 50% (from just under 10% to just over 6% gap). The "gloom and doom" of this article is about nothing but the fact that last XMAS, Apple tied Samsung in units for that season, while in this XMAS, Samsung beat Apple again. But the gap isn't widening, it's dropping.
 
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