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Another item TSA will be looking for....longer lines?

SO what if someone has a phone, does TSA make them toss it in the trash like all the other things you can't take on a plane??? lol

The same thing that they have always done: Give you a choice. 1. Hand it over to somebody that dropped you off at the airport, 2. As an extension to 1, but also possible separate, miss your flight to deal with the device, 3. Throw it away.

I would add a 4th option of mailing it to yourself, which TSA suggests often, but obviously that won't work here.

Honestly, at this point, there has been so much media coverage about this at this point that I would call into question the sincerity of anybody that tries to tell the TSA agent, "ohhh, really? I had no idea that it was recalled and was so dangerous." I'm sure there's going to be some that even get very incredulous towards the TSA agent as well. People can be funny that way sometimes.
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People are seeing this as good for the iPhone 7, I think it's even better for Google Pixel.

I agree. I suspect there will be a bigger increase in sales of alternative Android devices as a result of this. More than any possible increase in iPhone device sales. I'm not convinced it will be the Pixel though. That's one expensive item.
 
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lol

Let's see, bladerunner2000 tried to take the high road, despite his entire post history being the very same thing he complains about, except against Apple. kdarling has tried changing the subject with correct but irrelevant facts. now we just need mi7tchy to post links from isolated iPhone fires from 2014 and radon87000 to unironically claim that the Note explodes from "too much innovation" (despite having quite literally nothing about it that's an innovation this year, other than exploding which is admittedly novel) and the circle of life is complete.

A new MacRumors member and he knows many forum regulars already. Amazing.
 
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I have been traveling a lot lately, and I just saw one on the plane yesterday on my Delta flight.
I did not say anything to the lady with it, but it was powered off. Kind of sucks for people that do not know of the ban while on business, as the announcement just says power it off.

Wonder if there is anyway for them to get compensated, I would have no way of handing it off while traveling on business.
Pretty short notice for a 700 device to be banned, but of course it's understandable.
 
lol

Let's see, bladerunner2000 tried to take the high road, despite his entire post history being the very same thing he complains about, except against Apple. kdarling has tried changing the subject with correct but irrelevant facts. now we just need mi7tchy to post links from isolated iPhone fires from 2014 and radon87000 to unironically claim that the Note explodes from "too much innovation" (despite having quite literally nothing about it that's an innovation this year, other than exploding which is admittedly novel) and the circle of life is complete.

How many accounts do you have?
 
The craziest thing about this whole thing is that Samsung has yet to find the source of the problem.

The ban is a good move. No one should be using a Note 7 at this point but you know there are always those who think it'll never happen to them and take it on the plane with zero regard for those around them.
 
How can they not have found out the cause of it yet? That's the insane thing.
My estimation might be off by an order of magnitude but I have seen the number of about 20 million Note 7 devices shipped. My guess is that the total number of incidents is probably 200 at most. That is a ratio of 1:100'000. If they cannot narrow it down further (eg, to production batches) that is a tough nut to crack. They might be getting clues by examining damaged devices but also might not get anything out of that given the extent of the destruction. They will be examining the whole production process to see if they can find anything there that is out of spec. They might be stress testing full phones and individual components but if the failure is truly random, even if the stress testing accelerates the failure process, they would be testing a lot of devices before they see a failure in the lab given the 1:100'000 ratio.

On the one side this is process of just looking for anything that could point them into the right direction. And on the other side this is developing theories and (a) testing to confirm or rule them out and (b) if they have some confidence in their theory, even if they cannot prove it, implement countermeasures into the production process. And these two sides naturally inform each other.
 
No, he was quoting sources. A 15 minute Google search has already validates a few of his facts with actual sources. Which is an encouraging place to start.
There's no question about flight crew being trained to handle fire. But to call a fire on-board a plane a "not big risk" is laughably inaccurate, frankly, and borders on ignorance.
 
My estimation might be off by an order of magnitude but I have seen the number of about 20 million Note 7 devices shipped. My guess is that the total number of incidents is probably 200 at most. That is a ratio of 1:100'000. If they cannot narrow it down further (eg, to production batches) that is a tough nut to crack. They might be getting clues by examining damaged devices but also might not get anything out of that given the extent of the destruction. They will be examining the whole production process to see if they can find anything there that is out of spec. They might be stress testing full phones and individual components but if the failure is truly random, even if the stress testing accelerates the failure process, they would be testing a lot of devices before they see a failure in the lab given the 1:100'000 ratio.

On the one side this is process of just looking for anything that could point them into the right direction. And on the other side this is developing theories and (a) testing to confirm or rule them out and (b) if they have some confidence in their theory, even if they cannot prove it, implement countermeasures into the production process. And these two sides naturally inform each other.

According to Samsung themselves it's 1 in 42,000 and they are of course obligated to lowball

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/report-samsung-recall-phones-explosion-061457952.html
Samsung said:
Samsung estimates that 1 in 42,000 devices sold will experience the problem, but the company has chosen to recall every single device… you know, just in case.
 
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lol

Let's see, bladerunner2000 tried to take the high road, despite his entire post history being the very same thing he complains about, except against Apple. kdarling has tried changing the subject with correct but irrelevant facts. now we just need mi7tchy to post links from isolated iPhone fires from 2014 and radon87000 to unironically claim that the Note explodes from "too much innovation" (despite having quite literally nothing about it that's an innovation this year, other than exploding which is admittedly novel) and the circle of life is complete.

You can't win against confirmation bias and sadly every memeber you called out are convinced they're pursuing their arugments without equivocation and logical fallacies. Best to block them and wait for posters who are truly balanced and nuanced and insightful with their posts.
 
This fiasco is going to cost Samsung billions. Sure hope workers aren't laid off because management pushed to have this phone out before the iPhone 7.
 
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(*) Although if even one US airliner is ever taken down in the USA by a shoulder-fired SAM, I think our economy and flight system will be dead meat for weeks at least.
MH17 didn't stop commercial air traffic in the Ukraine, though those just passing over Ukraine made a wide berth over the conflict area in eastern Ukraine. It helped of course that the shooting down wasn't intentional but accidental and that everybody involved realised that such an incident should be avoided at all cost.
 
It takes time to train people to identify Note 7s.
No, it takes EXTRA time to IDENTIFY whether that rectangular phone in your carry-on is a Note 7. Impossible to tell via the x-ray machine, so either TSA will take much longer inspecting everyone's cell phone now, or they really aren't going to check at all and just trust that people comply.
 
My estimation might be off by an order of magnitude but I have seen the number of about 20 million Note 7 devices shipped. My guess is that the total number of incidents is probably 200 at most. That is a ratio of 1:100'000. If they cannot narrow it down further (eg, to production batches) that is a tough nut to crack. They might be getting clues by examining damaged devices but also might not get anything out of that given the extent of the destruction. They will be examining the whole production process to see if they can find anything there that is out of spec. They might be stress testing full phones and individual components but if the failure is truly random, even if the stress testing accelerates the failure process, they would be testing a lot of devices before they see a failure in the lab given the 1:100'000 ratio.

On the one side this is process of just looking for anything that could point them into the right direction. And on the other side this is developing theories and (a) testing to confirm or rule them out and (b) if they have some confidence in their theory, even if they cannot prove it, implement countermeasures into the production process. And these two sides naturally inform each other.
It's about 2.5 million shipped. Samsung barely ships 20 million Note devices over the course a full year if that.
 
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