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Wow. Couldn't he just ban it without resorting to Chicken Little language?

Nothing like frightening the public in order to justify your job. Not to mention adding to the ignorance of the public about flight dangers in general. Sigh.

So if "even one" incident is a high risk, then why haven't they heeded previous calls to ban electronics, calls that arose after iPhones and other devices have caught fire on airplanes?

(Answer: because they know that cabin smartphone fires are -- and have been each time so far -- easily handled by crews trained for it because of their own airline-provided devices, and because the mass public would have a hissy fit if the majority couldn't use their smartphones and tablets onboard.)

Just a few days ago you were lamenting the FAA/airlines' inaction on cargo bay fire suppression systems.
 
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Some of those other phones(S7 Edge) look fairly similar. I wonder what kind of training the agents are getting in order to identify it as a Note 7, especially when you factor cases into it.
It think it's going to be a problem. My sister- in-law said that during her recent flight from Texas, passengers were instructed to turn off all Samsung phones. I'll be leaving my S7edge at home and taking my SE and Pixel on flights. I travel with a group once a year across country and do not want to be the one holding up the group.
 
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Wow. Couldn't he just ban it without resorting to Chicken Little language?

Nothing like frightening the public in order to justify your job. Not to mention adding to the ignorance of the public about flight dangers in general. Sigh.

So if "even one" incident is a high risk, then why haven't they heeded previous calls to ban electronics, calls that arose after iPhones and other devices have caught fire on airplanes?

(Answer: because they know that cabin smartphone fires are -- and have been each time so far -- easily handled by crews trained for it because of their own airline-provided devices, and because the mass public would have a hissy fit if the majority couldn't use their smartphones and tablets onboard.)

The answer is that they've already started banning you from putting these things in your checked bags and they're assuming that since reports of iPhones catching fire are not something that has ever been frequent enough (or completely unexplainable) to become this big of a concern. These are bad batteries, they're bad phones, and they're probably all prone to fires eventually. It's only been a couple of months, can you imagine a couple of years?
 
It think it's going to be a problem. My sister- in-law said that during her recent flight from Texas, passengers were instructed to turn off all Samsung phones. I'll be leaving my S7edge at home and taking my SE and Pixel on flights. I travel with a group once a year across country and do not want to be the one holding up the group.

I doubt that's the case. I fly 4-8 times a week and it is consistently the Note 7 they refer to, if they said otherwise it's just a matter of a flight attendant not understanding what she is supposed to be saying after going off script. The last flight I was on, they kept calling it the galaxy 7 after they read off the "official" announcement.
 
Silly goose. If anything, I'm an HTC and Moto fan. You can trash Samsung all you want, as long you do it with facts.

But more importantly, I'm a fan of flight, and I really hate the way some agencies use fear to keep themselves in power, instead of using the chance to educate passengers about what is really dangerous and what is not.

I.e. in cabin fires are not a huge threat at all. In-hold checked baggage fires, on the other hand, are immensely deadly, and it's just a matter of time before a checked tablet or other lithium cell device brings down an airliner, if people don't pay attention to the rules.

That's what he should've emphasized.

disregard my prior post, I see the distinction you are making and it isn't a double standard.
 
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Let's see, bladerunner2000 tried to take the high road, despite his entire post history being the very same thing he complains about, except against Apple. kdarling has tried changing the subject with correct but irrelevant facts. now we just need mi7tchy to post links from isolated iPhone fires from 2014 and radon87000 to unironically claim that the Note explodes from "too much innovation" (despite having quite literally nothing about it that's an innovation this year, other than exploding which is admittedly novel) and the circle of life is complete.
You won this forum, sir... and gave me the exact names of the people I need to block.
 
Travelers with Note 7 phones can step out of TSA lines and make other arrangements should they want to keep their phones.

Such as mail it to yourself... which could also end up on another plane... in the cargo hold this time.

Life is full of risk, banning the phone is getting the word out about a consumer electronic device with a small - but significantly larger that any similar device - chance of catching fire. That should greatly reduce the number that end up on aircraft through any of the various avenue they could. I expect there will still be quite a few that fly.

If I were a Note 7 owner I'd be taking advantage of the recall ASAP.
 
Such as mail it to yourself... which could also end up on another plane... in the cargo hold this time.

Life is full of risk, banning the phone is getting the word out about a consumer electronic device with a small - but significantly larger that any similar device - chance of catching fire. That should greatly reduce the number that end up on aircraft through any of the various avenue they could. I expect there will still be quite a few that fly.

If I were a Note 7 owner I'd be taking advantage of the recall ASAP.

No, simply take it back home and leave it there. Easy. Hopefully, for most people, having to do that just one time will be enough to not try and bring it on board a second time.
 
Yes, they do often have their heads up their behinds.

Learn something about the history of the FAA with regards to their years of ignoring NTSB recommendation about saving passengers from fires.

The FAA is one of those fun organizations that has the duel responsibilities of both promoting and regulating the same industry. It can make for some interesting internalized conflicts of interest. I've heard people calling for the agency to be split for some time now.
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So my question is how does all of this relate to devices stored in the hold? And have there been any cases of fires from a li-ion device in checked baggage bringing a plane down? Because I honestly hadn't considered that before.

kdarling may have this at their fingertips but I know there have been battery fires in cargo holds previously and I believe the JetBlue crash was due to a cargo hold fire (although I can't recall exactly and it may not have been battery related).
 
So you have no problem with Apple doing all those things? Evading taxes, planned obsolescence, false advertising, etc? My god... you ARE an apologist.

Excuse me kind sir, but when did i ever say that, pray tell? I merely noticed you ripping all these people for discussing Samsung's problems... and say you would NEVER do that... but you clearly have. I merely provided but one example where you DID.
Some people are amazing.
 
On the other hand, maybe they won't force workers to do 100 hours overtime per month anymore and reduce the suicide rate that way. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/13/leaked_samsung_doc_highlights_toxic_culture/
That's appalling. I had no idea they treated their employees like that. I had heard that people were sleeping in their offices to meet deadlines but I've known people to do that in the US, too, in certain extraordinary situations. They take it to another level altogether. But I'm curious about the English profanity used. Do they speak English in their Korean offices and factories or does the abuse extend to employees in North America, too?
 
Excuse me kind sir, but when did i ever say that, pray tell? I merely noticed you ripping all these people for discussing Samsung's problems... and say you would NEVER do that... but you clearly have. I merely provided but one example where you DID.
Some people are amazing.

I didn't rip people for discussing Samsungs problems. I called out petulance for CELEBRATING their failures. KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
 
I didn't rip people for discussing Samsungs problems. I called out petulance for CELEBRATING their failures. KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

Seeing how you talk to people on here, i think you are fully unqualified to lecture anyone on their behavior. I have a daughter that i intend to try very hard to teach never to talk to people the way that you do. Good day sir.
 
Had this been the iPhone 7, can you imaging TSA agents trying to tell the difference between a 6, 6S and 7?
"Which way are the antenna bands supposed to go?", "Does this look like a physical home button to you?"
Does the Galaxy Note 7 really look that different from its predecessor?
 
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