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Shouldn't that be: "Samsung's Galaxy Note 8 Compared to iPhone 8, Dummy. And the Note should be taking notes..."

We need to wait and see what the Apple backroom has cooked up, but it's premature for the Note to be pounding its chest. We haven't had the first spontaneous combustion yet...
 
I'm pretty sure that Samsun didn't patent narrow bezels, anymore than Apple has a patent on the vertical camera alignment, which I strongly suspect will make its way into the next Samsung Galaxy dual camera phone as Samsung strengthens their VR platform.
Your suspecting Samsung stealing Apples vertical camera alignment? Apple is blatantly stealing Samsungs display design. How about stating that first?
 
Protruding camera is getting out of hand Apple, it's ugly as hell.
How can you talk about anyones back when the iphone will have that ugly vertical camera hump on the back and its ugly on every color.
Might be worth waiting until, you know, Apple releases their new phone to complain about the look, rather than complaining at Apple about mockups that other people have cobbled together.
 
A thicker device at even 0.4mm is a huge difference. It's sad you don't know that.

iPhone 7 is 7.1mm thick with a protruding camera that adds about 1.3mm. To make the camera flush you have to add a case that's at least 1.3mm thick so now the total thickness is 8.4mm while the battery is still deficient compared to 8mm Galaxy S8 with flush camera. It's better to make the phone thicker with a bigger battery to make the camera flush.

Here's a Galaxy S8 non-Plus destroying the iPhone 7 Plus monstrosity in battery test. The iPhone 7 non-Plus is about 23% worse.

 
What is the obsession of comparing two phones, Samsung s8 it's a different phone, also nobody knows what the new iPhone will look like until is released. This is so stupid, and do not make any sense at this point. Wait un till September and then you can compare. My God!!!!!
 
Your suspecting Samsung stealing Apples vertical camera alignment? Apple is blatantly stealing Samsungs display design. How about stating that first?
Because they switched to OLED like nearly every other manufacturer or because they narrowed the bezels like nearly every other manufacturer? Do you really believe that Jony Ive sites at his computer all day waiting to see what Samsung releases so he'll have design inspiration? Really?

Ok, well here is list of design awards he's received (as per Wikipedia) - I can't figure out why he'd receive all of these awards for stealing Samsung's designs, but there you have it:
  • 1999 - Ive was named by the MIT Technology Review TR100 one of the top 100 innovators in the world under age 35.
  • 2003 - he was the winner of the Design Museum's Designer of the Year Award, the first given.
  • 2003 - he was appointed a Royal Designer for Industry
  • 2004 - he received the RSA Benjamin Franklin Medal.
  • 2004 - he was named the "Most Influential Person on British Culture" by the BBC.
  • 2005 - The Sunday Times named Ive one of Britain's most influential expatriates, saying: "Ive may not be the richest or the most senior figure on the list, but he has certainly been one of the most influential as the man who designed the iPod."
  • 2006 - Macworld magazine poll listed Ive's joining Apple in 1992 as the sixth most significant event in Apple's history, while Dan Moren, a writer at MacUser magazine (a subsidiary of Macworld), suggested in March 2006 that, when the time came for Steve Jobs to step down as the CEO of Apple, Ive would be an excellent candidate for the position, justifying the statement by saying that Ive "embodies what Apple is perhaps most famous for: design". However, Jobs was succeeded by Tim Cook, the company's former COO.
  • 2006 - he was also appointed as an honorary fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering (FREng).
  • 2007 - the UK edition of GQ named Ive "Product Designer of the Year".
  • 2007 - Ive received the 2007 National Design Award in the product-design category for his work on the iPhone.
  • 2008 - he was named the No. 1 "Most Influential Briton in America" by the Daily Telegraph. Creativity Online included Ive in their "Creativity 50" list. The same year, he was awarded the MDA Personal Achievement Award for the design of the iPhone.
  • 2009 - Ive received an honorary doctorate from the Rhode Island School of Design, and was made an honorary doctor of the Royal College of Art. Also in 2009, Fast Company put him at No. 1 on their list of "100 Most Creative People in Business; the Daily Telegraph named him the second "Most Influential Briton in Technology, Forbes magazine listed him as second amongst the "Most Powerful People in Technology; and The Guardian named him "Inventor of the Decade".
  • 2010 - Bloomberg BusinessWeek listed Ive among the "World's Most Influential Designers", CNN Money named him "Smartest Designer" in their "Smartest People in Tech" story. Ive was listed at No. 18 on "The Vanity Fair 100" list,[53] and Eureka of The Times group placed him No. 5 on their list of "Britain's Most Important Scientists"; Fortune named Ive the "world's smartest designer" for his work on Apple products.
  • Fortune stated in 2010 that Apple design motifs Ive's designs have "set the course not just for Apple but for design more broadly".
  • 2011 - the Daily Mail profiled Ive, hailing him as a "design genius". He also was nominated for a British Inspiration Award.
  • 2012 - Ive was among the British cultural icons selected by artist Sir Peter Blake to appear in a new version of his most famous artwork – the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover – to celebrate the British cultural figures of his life that he most admires.
  • 2012 - Vanity Fair gave Ive along with Tim Cook the first spot on their annual "New Establishment" List.
  • 2013 - the BBC's Blue Peter awarded Ive a gold Blue Peter badge and he was then profiled by Bono in The 2013 TIME annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world.
  • Ive was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2006 New Year Honours for services to the design industry. In the 2012 New Year Honours, he was elevated to Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (KBE) for "services to design and enterprise"; he was knighted by Princess Anne at Buckingham Palace in a May 2012 ceremony. He described the honour as "absolutely thrilling" and said he was "both humbled and sincerely grateful".
  • As of early 2014 Ive is listed as a patent holder on over 730 U.S. design and utility patents, as well as many more related patents around the world.
  • On successive Wednesdays in June 2016 Ive was awarded honorary Doctor of Science degrees at the University of Cambridge and the University of Oxford.
 
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Your suspecting Samsung stealing Apples vertical camera alignment?

Samsung had a vertical dual camera SCH-B710 phone in 2007.

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Note 8 will be clearly the best. Records audio better, takes better pictures, allows me doing some nice sketches. But iPhone has universal clipboard. Come on, hardware is important indeed.
 
Here's a Galaxy S8 non-Plus destroying the iPhone 7 Plus monstrosity in battery test. The iPhone 7 non-Plus is about 23% worse.

This is the one thing that stands out to me as I see this all the time with my 6S+ and my wife's 7+.
Both iPhones last a long time between 100%-90%.
Once they get below 90%, it drains at a faster and more consistent rate.
 
So,this come to be true regarding samsung ans not apple
The note8 is really here
 

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Your suspecting Samsung stealing Apples vertical camera alignment? Apple is blatantly stealing Samsungs display design. How about stating that first?

LOL! They look nothing alike. Get real. They're both rectangles with rounded corners. Execution is entirely different. The whole Galaxy line was conceived as an iPhone clone. You've clearly forgotten.
 
Because they switched to OLED like nearly every other manufacturer or because they narrowed the bezels like nearly every other manufacturer? Do you really believe that Jony Ive sites at his computer all day waiting to see what Samsung releases so he'll have design inspiration? Really?

Ok, well here is list of design awards he's received (as per Wikipedia) - I can't figure out why he'd receive all of these awards for stealing Samsung's designs, but there you have it:
  • 1999 - Ive was named by the MIT Technology Review TR100 one of the top 100 innovators in the world under age 35.
  • 2003 - he was the winner of the Design Museum's Designer of the Year Award, the first given.
  • 2003 - he was appointed a Royal Designer for Industry
  • 2004 - he received the RSA Benjamin Franklin Medal.
  • 2004 - he was named the "Most Influential Person on British Culture" by the BBC.
  • 2005 - The Sunday Times named Ive one of Britain's most influential expatriates, saying: "Ive may not be the richest or the most senior figure on the list, but he has certainly been one of the most influential as the man who designed the iPod."
  • 2006 - Macworld magazine poll listed Ive's joining Apple in 1992 as the sixth most significant event in Apple's history, while Dan Moren, a writer at MacUser magazine (a subsidiary of Macworld), suggested in March 2006 that, when the time came for Steve Jobs to step down as the CEO of Apple, Ive would be an excellent candidate for the position, justifying the statement by saying that Ive "embodies what Apple is perhaps most famous for: design". However, Jobs was succeeded by Tim Cook, the company's former COO.
  • 2006 - he was also appointed as an honorary fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering (FREng).
  • 2007 - the UK edition of GQ named Ive "Product Designer of the Year".
  • 2007 - Ive received the 2007 National Design Award in the product-design category for his work on the iPhone.
  • 2008 - he was named the No. 1 "Most Influential Briton in America" by the Daily Telegraph. Creativity Online included Ive in their "Creativity 50" list. The same year, he was awarded the MDA Personal Achievement Award for the design of the iPhone.
  • 2009 - Ive received an honorary doctorate from the Rhode Island School of Design, and was made an honorary doctor of the Royal College of Art. Also in 2009, Fast Company put him at No. 1 on their list of "100 Most Creative People in Business; the Daily Telegraph named him the second "Most Influential Briton in Technology, Forbes magazine listed him as second amongst the "Most Powerful People in Technology; and The Guardian named him "Inventor of the Decade".
  • 2010 - Bloomberg BusinessWeek listed Ive among the "World's Most Influential Designers", CNN Money named him "Smartest Designer" in their "Smartest People in Tech" story. Ive was listed at No. 18 on "The Vanity Fair 100" list,[53] and Eureka of The Times group placed him No. 5 on their list of "Britain's Most Important Scientists"; Fortune named Ive the "world's smartest designer" for his work on Apple products.
  • Fortune stated in 2010 that Apple design motifs Ive's designs have "set the course not just for Apple but for design more broadly".
  • 2011 - the Daily Mail profiled Ive, hailing him as a "design genius". He also was nominated for a British Inspiration Award.
  • 2012 - Ive was among the British cultural icons selected by artist Sir Peter Blake to appear in a new version of his most famous artwork – the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover – to celebrate the British cultural figures of his life that he most admires.
  • 2012 - Vanity Fair gave Ive along with Tim Cook the first spot on their annual "New Establishment" List.
  • 2013 - the BBC's Blue Peter awarded Ive a gold Blue Peter badge and he was then profiled by Bono in The 2013 TIME annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world.
  • Ive was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2006 New Year Honours for services to the design industry. In the 2012 New Year Honours, he was elevated to Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (KBE) for "services to design and enterprise"; he was knighted by Princess Anne at Buckingham Palace in a May 2012 ceremony. He described the honour as "absolutely thrilling" and said he was "both humbled and sincerely grateful".
  • As of early 2014 Ive is listed as a patent holder on over 730 U.S. design and utility patents, as well as many more related patents around the world.
  • On successive Wednesdays in June 2016 Ive was awarded honorary Doctor of Science degrees at the University of Cambridge and the University of Oxford.
Seeing awards lists like that always makes me smile and wonder if people actually believe that Oscars and other such awards are only dished out to the best of the best and most deserving.

Besides, many people on here believe that a multi-billion dollar company like Samsung base their product designs on Macrumors articles....
 
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I will give props to Samsung and say that their last few generations of phones have a unique design aesthetic and no longer look Apple-esque. Good for them.
 
Protruding camera is getting out of hand Apple, it's ugly as hell.
That protruding camera makes the iPhone look it has its own iPhone.
It's funny, even the iPhone dummy beats the Samsung..
Surreal to be comparing shipping product to a non-functioning third-party prototype and conclude they are pretty much the equal. It is like comparing a chef's cuisine with an Instagram photograph and saying they both look and taste similar — or in the minds of some people, the photo is better.
 
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Your suspecting Samsung stealing Apples vertical camera alignment? Apple is blatantly stealing Samsungs display design. How about stating that first?
It wasn't Samsungs display design, bezeless was started prior to all of this. But that wasn't stated either.

Amazing the hubris over this.
 
The back is SO important because no one puts cases on them, right? :rolleyes:
Your case would still have an enormous window. Their design is abysmal. They should have tried to hide the cameras
iPhone 7 is 7.1mm thick with a protruding camera that adds about 1.3mm. To make the camera flush you have to add a case that's at least 1.3mm thick so now the total thickness is 8.4mm while the battery is still deficient compared to 8mm Galaxy S8 with flush camera. It's better to make the phone thicker with a bigger battery to make the camera flush.

Here's a Galaxy S8 non-Plus destroying the iPhone 7 Plus monstrosity in battery test. The iPhone 7 non-Plus is about 23% worse.

idiotic. The device being thinner is always superior. By the way the L-shaped battery in the iPhone this year will embarrass the Samsung phones
 
What a completely useless comparison. A product that DOES exist pitted against a product that doesn't. You may as well compare the Galaxy to the next- unannounced Ford, SUV.
 
Because they switched to OLED like nearly every other manufacturer or because they narrowed the bezels like nearly every other manufacturer? Do you really believe that Jony Ive sites at his computer all day waiting to see what Samsung releases so he'll have design inspiration? Really?

Ok, well here is list of design awards he's received (as per Wikipedia) - I can't figure out why he'd receive all of these awards for stealing Samsung's designs, but there you have it:
  • 1999 - Ive was named by the MIT Technology Review TR100 one of the top 100 innovators in the world under age 35.
  • 2003 - he was the winner of the Design Museum's Designer of the Year Award, the first given.
  • 2003 - he was appointed a Royal Designer for Industry
  • 2004 - he received the RSA Benjamin Franklin Medal.
  • 2004 - he was named the "Most Influential Person on British Culture" by the BBC.
  • 2005 - The Sunday Times named Ive one of Britain's most influential expatriates, saying: "Ive may not be the richest or the most senior figure on the list, but he has certainly been one of the most influential as the man who designed the iPod."
  • 2006 - Macworld magazine poll listed Ive's joining Apple in 1992 as the sixth most significant event in Apple's history, while Dan Moren, a writer at MacUser magazine (a subsidiary of Macworld), suggested in March 2006 that, when the time came for Steve Jobs to step down as the CEO of Apple, Ive would be an excellent candidate for the position, justifying the statement by saying that Ive "embodies what Apple is perhaps most famous for: design". However, Jobs was succeeded by Tim Cook, the company's former COO.
  • 2006 - he was also appointed as an honorary fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering (FREng).
  • 2007 - the UK edition of GQ named Ive "Product Designer of the Year".
  • 2007 - Ive received the 2007 National Design Award in the product-design category for his work on the iPhone.
  • 2008 - he was named the No. 1 "Most Influential Briton in America" by the Daily Telegraph. Creativity Online included Ive in their "Creativity 50" list. The same year, he was awarded the MDA Personal Achievement Award for the design of the iPhone.
  • 2009 - Ive received an honorary doctorate from the Rhode Island School of Design, and was made an honorary doctor of the Royal College of Art. Also in 2009, Fast Company put him at No. 1 on their list of "100 Most Creative People in Business; the Daily Telegraph named him the second "Most Influential Briton in Technology, Forbes magazine listed him as second amongst the "Most Powerful People in Technology; and The Guardian named him "Inventor of the Decade".
  • 2010 - Bloomberg BusinessWeek listed Ive among the "World's Most Influential Designers", CNN Money named him "Smartest Designer" in their "Smartest People in Tech" story. Ive was listed at No. 18 on "The Vanity Fair 100" list,[53] and Eureka of The Times group placed him No. 5 on their list of "Britain's Most Important Scientists"; Fortune named Ive the "world's smartest designer" for his work on Apple products.
  • Fortune stated in 2010 that Apple design motifs Ive's designs have "set the course not just for Apple but for design more broadly".
  • 2011 - the Daily Mail profiled Ive, hailing him as a "design genius". He also was nominated for a British Inspiration Award.
  • 2012 - Ive was among the British cultural icons selected by artist Sir Peter Blake to appear in a new version of his most famous artwork – the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover – to celebrate the British cultural figures of his life that he most admires.
  • 2012 - Vanity Fair gave Ive along with Tim Cook the first spot on their annual "New Establishment" List.
  • 2013 - the BBC's Blue Peter awarded Ive a gold Blue Peter badge and he was then profiled by Bono in The 2013 TIME annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world.
  • Ive was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2006 New Year Honours for services to the design industry. In the 2012 New Year Honours, he was elevated to Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (KBE) for "services to design and enterprise"; he was knighted by Princess Anne at Buckingham Palace in a May 2012 ceremony. He described the honour as "absolutely thrilling" and said he was "both humbled and sincerely grateful".
  • As of early 2014 Ive is listed as a patent holder on over 730 U.S. design and utility patents, as well as many more related patents around the world.
  • On successive Wednesdays in June 2016 Ive was awarded honorary Doctor of Science degrees at the University of Cambridge and the University of Oxford.
What a waste of time that was! Stealing is stealing regardless of the past. The iPhone screen changed and is now looking like Samsung.
 
I would like to see a black iPhone 8 Dummy for a change. The white front is ugly as heeeeell. Looks like its in a huge white survival case. Id like to see how the black would blend in with that huge frame
What huge frame?
 
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