mi7chy
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Not everyone uses a case and not all cases are that thick to make the camera housing flush or recede. A thick case just makes a big phone even more bulky.
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Samsung's Galaxy Note 8 Compared to iPhone 8 Dummy
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Not everyone uses a case and not all cases are that thick to make the camera housing flush or recede. A thick case just makes a big phone even more bulky.
I enjoy my iPhone 7 Plus. I think the 7000 series aluminum, the way it conforms to my hand and overall design works to my liking. I know many do not care for the camera bump or antenna lines, etc. But those are the little details that I have no issue with, as long as the iPhone meets my expectations , which it does.
You'll need to get rid of Jony Ive to get rid of the camera bump, the mans obsessed with thinness...
Then why do they bother offering different colors?
pat500000
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Samsung note 8 va non-existence rumored based iphone...geez. Still note 8 is great.
jasonklee
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Overheard this on the train this morning:
"Would you recommend the iPhone?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"Camera housing is too big and ugly."
"Would you recommend the iPhone?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"Camera housing is too big and ugly."
polterbyte
macrumors 6502
I haven't seen anyone commenting on this, so here it goes: I really hate that ridiculously large bezel on the iPhone dummy. I hope that's one detail everyone got wrong.
morcutt11
macrumors 6502
I'm pretty sure that Samsun didn't patent narrow bezels, anymore than Apple has a patent on the vertical camera alignment, which I strongly suspect will make its way into the next Samsung Galaxy dual camera phone as Samsung strengthens their VR platform.
smacrumon
macrumors 68030
I'm glad Samsung has neatened the camera module and made it less protruding. Their designs are approaching something really impressive. If I was to choose a phone, I'd choose one WITHOUT the notch and protruding camera. i.e. I would not choose iPhone.
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[doublepost=1503690138][/doublepost]"Hello there, iPhone. I'm a Galaxy. I have no protruding camera. No mess whatsoever!"
"Oh, and iPhone... Clean up your mess!"
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ABSOLUTELY! WHAT ON EARTH IS APPLE DOING WITH THE NOTCH AND PROTRUDING CAMERA!???
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People who don't use cases for example.
[doublepost=1503690138][/doublepost]"Hello there, iPhone. I'm a Galaxy. I have no protruding camera. No mess whatsoever!"
"Oh, and iPhone... Clean up your mess!"
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Must be a slow news day..
Tomorrow let's compare the Note 8 to a potato.. because every potato is the same, amirite?
Tomorrow let's compare the Note 8 to a potato.. because every potato is the same, amirite?
TwoBytes
macrumors 68040
have to admit. I'm jealous of dex dock, the larger screen, and ability to choose my focal point post snapping the pic, multitasking and the larger screen. Samsung updates are far better than the small incremental updates Apple dishes out.
thoughtwell
macrumors newbie
The bump on the proposed new iPhone design just bugs the hell out of me. It just looks so crude and abrupt. Like a big, black, camera wart.
I feel like a slight glass bevel around the edge of the camera lenses and flash would have made it look a little more streamlined than the metal-rimmed plateau design that just sticks out all garishly.
Mr. Mad Vibes
macrumors member
Compared to the other ugly back this so called new design that iPhone will have? Both are bad but apple takes the cake
I'm going to continue to pound the earth on this...if Apple doesn't deliver this with ZERO (infinity) side bezels, I consider that a huge design failure. It will immediately look dated next to the Samsung displays.
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They intentionally made them narrower so it's easier to hold in your hand. Having sampled the new Galaxy 8's, I think it's a smart move (and I have huge hands).
jasonklee
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I'd take a flush back at the cost of camera quality because I care about design. And thinness imparts no measurable value to an object that is mobile and held. Has anyone ever been impressed by how thin Apple products are? I'm shocked that the MacBook Air was the best selling Mac. In fact, I think Apple was lying about the Air's success and sales figures, just to promite a thin laptop no one wants.
God. Apple needs to just figure out a way to flatten the camera and make a full-screen device. As for the earpiece and camera? JUST FIGURE IT OUT so that they don't occupy space on the front.
Instead, the ID group is invested in materials and machining processes and architecting an object where glass forms seamlessly to the unibody frame. Minimizing surface interruptions for a continuous form is not innovation. Resolving breaks in corners is not impressive.
What Apple has done starting with the iPhone 6 has been a waste. The iPhone no longer looks like a hi-tech gadget. It now looks too organic and neutral. Stop with this obsession of blurring the lines between software and hardware. No one cares, Jony, that you've achieved an industrial design where glass and metal bond seamlessly with soft and gentle curves. We want no camera protusions.
NO ONE CARES WHAT THE CAMERA ACTUALLY DOES. We just care about the looks. Innovation is not with Apple anymore.
God. Apple needs to just figure out a way to flatten the camera and make a full-screen device. As for the earpiece and camera? JUST FIGURE IT OUT so that they don't occupy space on the front.
Instead, the ID group is invested in materials and machining processes and architecting an object where glass forms seamlessly to the unibody frame. Minimizing surface interruptions for a continuous form is not innovation. Resolving breaks in corners is not impressive.
What Apple has done starting with the iPhone 6 has been a waste. The iPhone no longer looks like a hi-tech gadget. It now looks too organic and neutral. Stop with this obsession of blurring the lines between software and hardware. No one cares, Jony, that you've achieved an industrial design where glass and metal bond seamlessly with soft and gentle curves. We want no camera protusions.
NO ONE CARES WHAT THE CAMERA ACTUALLY DOES. We just care about the looks. Innovation is not with Apple anymore.
Statusnone88
macrumors 68000
This is a perfect way to describe how I feel about Samsung phones. Their hardware is absolutely amazing. But the software, for me, keeps me with apple.
you do realize what happens if they make it flush, right?
either: the camera gets worse
or: the phone will get "even more bulky"
morcutt11
macrumors 6502
Samsung has had both HEVC and VP9 for a while, but that is typical of Samsung - they throw everything but the kitchen sink into their phones, regardless of need, as if there was no plan whatsoever - just do it because you can. Apple has always been different - they implement technology when they have a need. HEVC was added (lets face it - there was no chance that Apple was going to add VP9) now that there is a VR roadmap and an upcoming 4k AppleTV. Apple wasn't going to add a new codec to replace H.264 unless it was ubiquitous across their platform. So, why pay to license a codec you don't need yet? Wouldn't that be foolish?
As for the pen, Apple has clearly and deliberately avoided this since the inception of the iPhone as per SJ's vision. With the advent of the large iPad pro, Apple saw the viability of a pen ("pencil" in this case - so they could be different) and went all out adding the capability to the iPad. Will they change their minds about the iPhone now that they have larger screens than SJ ever planned? Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The use of a stylus with the iPhone represents a usage/interaction with the phone that goes against the very foundation of the interface model that Apple has perpetuated for the iPhone. It is obvious that they haven't added it because they couldn't - they are flat-out against it.
In terms of split screen and multitasking, again, it is a "why" - not a "can". Apple (and their user base) don't see a significant need for these features. This is particularly the case with split screen - it goes against the fundamental UX of the iPhone. As apps evolve and thus needs evolve, this may change, but Apple isn't going to add it without the need. I'm sure that, when they do, they'll hear about how they "finally copied Samsung", but again, their platform philosophy is completely different than Samsung. NFC is a good example, Apple could have added it years before they did - the chipset was there to support it, but they didn't have the Apple Pay network established yet with card processor networks and merchants and NFC payment adoption was dismal without it. Once Apple created the Apple Pay network solution, established the partnerships, devised the use of the devise account number and per-transaction updated payment token stored in secure enclave (so card numbers wouldn't be transmitted), etc. then NFC was added.
If you're saying that Apple products are inferior because they are not first with technology (although they are first with some, like x64 bit processing) or because they don't adopt bleeding-edge technology - there are plenty of alternatives. However, to say that is disingenuous as most users don't have that need and by adopting a different philosophy, Apple provides a very stable product that appeals to a very broad audience, as evident by the dominant sales of their phones.
Your bases for the superiority of the Samsung devices is akin to someone saying that Samsung Galaxy phones are inferior to the Motorola Z2 as takes snap-on accessories ("Moto Mods") that expand its functionality.