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That's cool, good for the Israeli's then. Definitely some talented people. I guess the original iPhone wasn't innovation then, because all of the components were sourced from outside Apple and the majority of people brought in came from other companies either.
Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!
The old iPods used Toshiba parts, the first iPhone used a Samsung Arm 11 processer, as well as the 3G. From 1994, 2005 apple relied on IBM for PowerPC chips, from 2006 till now, Intel has been making Mac processors. The only thing completely made by Apple was macOS and iOsS, and even then, they get help
 
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Hmmm, sounds like Samsung is playing a lot of catchup to a company that so many say “can’t innovate.”

iPhone X is great. It is the most innovative phone of last year. But don't be fooled by it. It was long-long due, for all the people expecting like 3 new, redesigned models this year. Here is what is going to happen:
* iPhone X (nothing change, slight price drop)
* iPhone XS (new edition) (updated internals compared to the old X, same price)
* Either iPhone 8s (plus) with upgraded internals at $700 ($800) or $100 price drop of iPhone 8s

And we are going to be stucked with this for 2-3 more years, with the introduction of iPhone XL (X plus lol).
This is how the Apple Cycle goes:

Year 1. - Introduce something awesome - "Can't innovate my ass, Apple is the best"
Year 2. - Change the bare minimum - "Competition is catching up"
Year 3. - Change the bare minimum - "**** Apple, I am going to Android"
Repeat.
 
MagicWok said:
No one mention Siri...


Bixby is horrible, the worst of all voice assistants, and Bixby was developed by the same people that originally developed SIRI.

Apple shouldn't be criticized for SIRI, instead should be criticized for buying an incomplete (touted as complete) product and praised for improving it as much as Apple has, after the original SIRI developers skipped town with their buyout monies. Who was in charge of all that? Scott Forestall. Forestall also screwed up Maps and refused to accept responsibility for either catastrophe. Has anyone noticed that Forestall has not caught on with another firm? There's a reason.
 
That's a well put argument; but I disagree, the "millions of junk Android phones running software from 4-5 years ago" are still going to want apps and the app developers are going to cater for these people. They don't give a damn how much profit the handset maker has made.

That's fine, but I don't think people holding onto a free phone they got 4-5 years ago are really driving the numbers when it comes to app sales. I guess that's just me though. But yes, you're right, they don't care about the handset makers, just the users' data.

Solid band too, if that's your username reference.
 
That's fine, but I don't think people holding onto a free phone they got 4-5 years ago are really driving the numbers when it comes to app sales. I guess that's just me though. But yes, you're right, they don't care about the handset makers, just the users' data.

Solid band too, if that's your username reference.
Well I prefer"And So I Watch You From Afar"
 
Because the profits only benefit Apple. If you're an app developer and Android is in the hands and eyes of 90% of the World; that's where you want to be.

Read my post above. That myth that developers go where the market share is (that Eric Schmidt tried claiming back in 2011) still hasn't come true. Despite all that market share (which is actually primarily made up of low-end junk phones) iOS is still far more profitable for developers and still favored.
 
Read my post above. That myth that developers go where the market share is (that Eric Schmidt tried claiming back in 2011) still hasn't come true. Despite all that market share (which is actually primarily made up of low-end junk phones) iOS is still far more profitable for developers and still favored.
Well lets take that to it's logical conclusion then shall we? App developers are only going to develop for the (at best) 10% mobile phone eco-system because it's the most profitable.

Yeah right; Even if iPhone user's spend more on apps compared to Android users it doesn't matter; let's say an iPhone user spends a dollar on an an app and an Android user spends 20 cents on an app the Android app makes more money! Yes the iPhone app makes more money per user but so what? the Android app makes more money over-all because there is more of them, even on crappy 5 year old phones.
 
Well lets take that to it's logical conclusion then shall we? App developers are only going to develop for the (at best) 10% mobile phone eco-system because it's the most profitable.

Yeah right; Even if iPhone user's spend more on apps compared to Android users it doesn't matter; let's say an iPhone user spends a dollar on an an app and an Android user spends 20 cents on an app the Android app makes more money! Yes the iPhone app makes more money per user but so what? the Android app makes more money over-all because there is more of them, even on crappy 5 year old phones.

No.

The App Store revenues are 2X those of the Google Play Store, even though the Google Play Store has about 2X the number of downloads.

So no, the Android App DOES NOT make more money.
 
Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!
The old iPods used Toshiba parts, the first iPhone used a Samsung Arm 11 processer, as well as the 3G. From 1994, 2005 apple relied on IBM for PowerPC chips, from 2006 till now, Intel has been making Mac processors. The only thing completely made by Apple was macOS and iOsS, and even then, they get help

Ahem.. Ahem... I was of opinion that Apple's 'Ax' series chips were their own....

Oh! wait! I get it now... Apple just designs stuff. They don't make them. And designing something on the drawing board is a child's play and not worthy of any mention. Its always the component supplier who's the boss.

Any idea how these contracts are drawn up for these vendors? Apple as a company cannot have a single vendor dominating any single component.. which is why they have multiple suppliers for most of these components to avoid monopoly.

True Samsung was the only supplier for OLED in iPhone X, that could be a supply constraint at the time. IMO that would change pretty soon and Apple would be scouting already for multiple vendors to take over some part of the supply.

That way, the risk of solely depending on one vendor is mitigated and also it would drive down the cost of parts supplied owing to competition of multiple vendors.

And, also, if you do take a look at all the latest flagship phones in the market, majority of them have similar component list. The key differentiator for Apple, or any other company for that matter who compete in the same market would be the way they tune and (build software to) drive their hardware tech-stack to it best performance.
 
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iPhone X is great. It is the most innovative phone of last year. But don't be fooled by it. It was long-long due, for all the people expecting like 3 new, redesigned models this year. Here is what is going to happen:
* iPhone X (nothing change, slight price drop)
* iPhone XS (new edition) (updated internals compared to the old X, same price)
* Either iPhone 8s (plus) with upgraded internals at $700 ($800) or $100 price drop of iPhone 8s

And we are going to be stucked with this for 2-3 more years, with the introduction of iPhone XL (X plus lol).
This is how the Apple Cycle goes:

Year 1. - Introduce something awesome - "Can't innovate my ass, Apple is the best"
Year 2. - Change the bare minimum - "Competition is catching up"
Year 3. - Change the bare minimum - "**** Apple, I am going to Android"
Repeat.
Except no one really switches from Apple to Android.
 
Hopefully, it works unlike Apple Fail ID.

It's not about being first but doing it right.

Oh not that one again. You know they have been absolutely debunked? It's easy to create a mask of _your_ face that is recognised by _your_ phone. That's because when FaceId doesn't recognise you (or your mask), and then you enter the passcode, then FaceId will train itself on the modified face. They can do that with their own phone because they have the passcode. On someone else's phone it doesn't work, because once the mask isn't recognised, you can't unlock someone else's phone.

I love how that video doesn't show the part where they set FaceID up, or the numerous times that they trained it to recognise both of their faces after the initial setup.
That's of course the easiest way. Create a mask, then tell _your_ iPhone that's your face. Doesn't work with _my_ phone because you need the passcode.
 
According to Mashable Apple was trying to play catchup to Amazon when it decided apparently almost last minute to integrate Siri into the HomePod. I'm not saying Samsung isn't trying to pay catchup here, but it's a given that all of these companies are trying to raise the bar where their core competencies lie and the rest try to keep pace. Which company is ahead depends on different variables. Edit to correct link to Mashable
I don't think Mashable has any clue what they are talking about. I would guess Siri was always going to be part of HomePod. HomePod is a completely different product anyway.
 
No.

The App Store revenues are 2X those of the Google Play Store, even though the Google Play Store has about 2X the number of downloads.

So no, the Android App DOES NOT make more money.

And on the App Store, the percentage of users that are customers is a lot higher.
 
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So what are all these memes I keep seeing claiming Android has had face recognition 'for years' all about then?
Ive an old nexus 7 tablet from years ago that had face unlock. Wasn' bothered about it then, aint bothered about it now..
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The thing they really need to copy from Apple is longevity of support.

As it is, you get two years support maximum from launch, which is pretty pathetic for a flagship to be honest.
In the reams of fairness, this is false. My mother has a s6, which is a 2015 model, its just received the Feb 2018 security update. Please don' believe propaganda rubbish...
 
If you don't care then don't click and definitely don't comment.
I care that I open an Apple-centric website and have to skim through wads of trash to read what I wanted to, so I'm cool giving my feedback about it, thanks.
 
Ive an old nexus 7 tablet from years ago that had face unlock. Wasn' bothered about it then, aint bothered about it now..
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In the reams of fairness, this is false. My mother has a s6, which is a 2015 model, its just received the Feb 2018 security update. Please don' believe propaganda rubbish...

My 5S from 2013 right now is running on iOS 11. Not trying to put your point down. But Apple definitely does support its devices for quite a long time.
 
God I hate Samsung. Why is no other company pushing to innovate besides Apple? True competition is needed for everyone to benefit.
You are totally right. facial recognition totally didn't exist before ipx. Nobody bloody knew about it.
 
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My 5S from 2013 right now is running on iOS 11. Not trying to put your point down. But Apple definitely does support its devices for quite a long time.
No one said they don't my friend. Their support is awesome . The point I was replying to stated Samsung dont support devices after 2 years. Which is most definitely incorrect...
 
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