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Can confirm that the multitasking is a huge boon. When I was shopping for my current phone (Android; previously iOS), I figured multitasking would be something kind of gimmicky that I never really used on a screen as small as a phone, but I can tell you that I use it all the time. For me I mostly use it when watching a YouTube video and needing to respond to a text. I can keep the video playing on the top of the screen while I respond below. Apple clearly has the software to do this as we have seen in the iPad -- why won't they decided to their phones? Not even their behemoth Xs Max?

I would agree that split screen/multitasking would be nice to have. Whenever I switch from my iPad to my iPhone I immediately miss that ability. iPhone and iOS are plenty capable.
 
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I would be very happy with split screen, PiP, the ability create ringtones without using an app through iTunes, and dark mode in iOS 13. Other than those features, there's not a whole lot I feel I'm missing out on with iOS. I don't customize and I don't root my phones, so the extra functionality of Android is lost on me. I appreciate others like the flexibility. To each their own.
Dark mode, pip and split screen would do me just fine in iOS 13. I tend to get bored of customisation when I’ve used a Samsung phone alongside my iPhone. It was fun for the first week or so but then it got boring. A feature like Dex would be nice even if I didn’t use it.
 
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That's great for her usage. Samsung shows it's possible to put in a lot of hardware in a smaller and thinner package while also keeping the jack.
Perfect. And if you want a iphone or Samsung, one can still use a wired headphone is the point. If you are stuck on the features of a headphone jack, there are options.
 
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Dark mode, pip AKG split screen would do me just fine in iOS 13. I tend to get bored of customisation when I’ve used a Samsung phone alongside my iPhone. It was fun for the first week or so but then it got boring. A feature like Dex would be nice even if I didn’t use it.
Oh yeah. I had Android from 2008 (the G1 on T-Mobile) and other Androids up until the iPhone 4s. I used to customize the phones and that got old as well. I think this whole mine is better than yours debate on these forums borders the bizarre. It’s as if it’s insulting to people to have personal preferences. I like and prefer iPhone and iOS over Android. For others who think the S10e is the better device then the XR is fine. But I find the XR the better device for me. Other than the screen, there is nothing the S10e offers over or does better than my XR. No iMessage, no Face ID, no FaceTime, no continuity with my iPad Pro and MacBook Pro. I could go on. The point is these things matter to me. Looking at what the S10e appears to offer on paper doesn’t translate to advantages I see.
 
What’s outdated about the XR other than screen ppi? A12. Face ID. Same cameras front and rear as XS minus telephoto. Smart HDR plus adjustable bokeh effect. Wireless charging. Full screen design with 120 touch refresh and True Tone with brightness and color accuracy considered equal to best in the market. Battery life on par or better than most 2018 flagships. Haptic Touch still better than any Android alternative.

So again, please specify how the XR was already outdated.
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The benifit of higher resale depends on if you even resell your phone and how. Trade ins of any kind don’t get you a lot of money back usually.

In the past they might have had longer lifespans but you can predict that on brand new S10e and a lot of people replace their phone within 2-3 years during which an the S10e should be more than fine for spec wise.

More durable? Proof? They are both made out glass the fall the wrong way they both will break.
I’m not talking about physical damage. iPhones last longer because they are supported longer, get more updates, get fixed by Apple longer, and have chipsets that are future proof. The A10 for example is still a very fast chip.

My proof is iPhones cost a lot more on the secondary market. That means they last longer and have longer usable lives, hence cost more second hand.

Same reason a Honda costs more used. People know it works and in Apple’s case, will be supported.
 
Apple’s notch looks so awkward compared to Samsung’s hole camera. Will apple ever be able to drastically shrink or eliminate the notch, or does their choice for Face ID means we’ll never get rid of it completely? Might be easier to just move a single front facing camera (Samsung) under the oled screen than an array of cameras and ir blaster.

Both are great phones though. It basically comes down to software preferences
 
lots of good points here, but that last one's hilarious. wouldn't you have to use your eyes to look at it after you've unlocked it with the hand you took off the wheel to unlock it?
When I use voice commands to set up for example, directions to a store I can purchase an ironing board, I never need to take my eyes off the road ahead. And for questions, I will get a spoken response. No need to look at the phone. For clarification, I use Google Assistant.
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That's great for her usage. Samsung shows it's possible to put in a lot of hardware in a smaller and thinner package while also keeping the jack.
My experience of using quality headphones with a phone without an analogue output results in a very sub standard audio quality.
 
Mmm... a Mac enthusiasts site commentator recommending another company’s products. Sounds like you have an existential dilemma. Maybe you should recommend the Nokia 1 smartphone at a tenth of the price of an iPhone.
 
I like the Samsung form factor better. The Xr just looks bloated.

I don’t think how the XR ‘looks bloated’ transcends anything to the average consumer. They see the same design and form factor as the iPhone XS offers. The advantage being to the XR, the battery life is rated off the charts, and I think consumers will take notice on the most important key things, like the battery life, Face ID, LTE reception, wireless charging, etc. those are more pivotal features that I think others focus on versus being overly skeptical of the design , when that doesn’t really seem to be much of a factoring decision when purchasing this phone.
 
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Oh yeah. I had Android from 2008 (the G1 on T-Mobile) and other Androids up until the iPhone 4s. I used to customize the phones and that got old as well. I think this whole mine is better than yours debate on these forums borders the bizarre. It’s as if it’s insulting to people to have personal preferences. I like and prefer iPhone and iOS over Android. For others who think the S10e is the better device then the XR is fine. But I find the XR the better device for me. Other than the screen, there is nothing the S10e offers over or does better than my XR. No iMessage, no Face ID, no FaceTime, no continuity with my iPad Pro and MacBook Pro. I could go on. The point is these things matter to me. Looking at what the S10e appears to offer on paper doesn’t translate to advantages I see.
The point about customising is that one does it when one gets the new device. Then it's done. It's customised.
 
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Why wouldn't the capability to customise any product one buys to suit ones preferences not be be a selling point to a free thinking individual?
Not every cares about the Burger King: have it your way. To some individuals less is more.


edit: this is meant to be humorous. There is enough tech out there for everybody.
 
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Most amusing. The capability to customise doesn't mean one has to customise - to free thinking individuals. This may be a difficult concept for some individuals to grasp :)
Well that was meant to be humorous. I don't know what popped into my mind as I was typing the response.

However, free thinking individuals would also respect others peoples choices, if not I would believe one is not as free-thinking as one believes one might be.

This isn't a war of words to see who can out-snipe one another. Nobody wins the internets for a day.
 
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Well that was meant to be humorous. I don't know what popped into my mind as I was typing the response.

However, free thinking individuals would also respect others peoples choices, if not I would believe one is not as free-thinking as one believes one might be.

This isn't a war of words to see who can out-snipe one another. Nobody wins the internets for a day.
Exactly, a free thinking individual would respect that if one doesn't want to customise, that is that person's right. Just as a free thinking individual would respect a person's right to customise if that is what they wanted. What reasonable person could argue against that?
 
Exactly, a free thinking individual would respect that if one doesn't want to customise, that is that person's right. Just as a free thinking individual would respect a person's right to customise if that is what they wanted. What reasonable person could argue against that?
A free thinking individual would also allow an opinion that another method is better for someone else than for themselves, even if the method is not liked by another. What reasonable individual would argue against that?
 
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Sure. XR for the last two years while S10e for the first three years. Maybe it's just me but I would rather enjoy the first three years with the best hardware and decide on if the software updates after that is still important.
If that’s the case and software longevity is not important, then why even bother with a Samsung? Xiaomi Mi9 offers Snapdragon 855, triple cameras, Amoled panel, etc for a lot less. It runs the same apps as well.
 
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If that’s the case and software longevity is not important, then why even bother with a Samsung? Xiaomi Mi9 offers Snapdragon 855, triple cameras, Amoled panel, etc for a lot less. It runs the same apps as well.
Exactly. I got my Huawei P20 Pro because the additional cost of my 24 month contract over what I would have had to pay for a similar sim only contract works out at a little over £400.
 
Exactly. I got my Huawei P20 Pro because the additional cost of my 24 month contract over what I would have had to pay for a similar sim only contract works out at a little over £400.
Yeah.
Too many tech bloggers and Samsung fans making claims of Samsung being a better value than an iPhone, as if the world is a vacuum of only two phones, Galaxy’s S and iPhone. But in the real world of Android, Samsung phones are very poor in value with so many competitors offering more bang for the buck.
 
It still baffles me that Apple went out of their way and spent all of that R&D money to purposely develop an inferior phone to fill the "affordable" price point. And LCD screen. In 2018. For $750. Are you kidding. They didn't even keep the X around and sell it cheaper.

Does anyone have any evidence as to if the XR was created (with an LCD screen) due to display panel supply concerns or was it just total greed?

The XR was created with a (relatively low resolution, compared to the XS OLED) LCD to maintain margin.

They discontinued the X because Apple knew that everyone would buy a cheaper X than a normal XS because the improvements are so minor.

Apple builds these phones not to enrich lives, not to build the best phones in the world, but to ensure that their users give them as much of their money as possible, and that Apple is able to keep as much of that money as possible in the form of profit.

There is nothing at all wrong with Apple's business model. In fact, they've built an extraordinarily successful business and deserve all the success they've attained.

Samsung has the same business model at the end of the day. Just two different ways of ending up on the same bus.
 
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The XR was created with a (relatively low resolution, compared to the XS OLED) LCD to maintain margin.

They discontinued the X because Apple knew that everyone would buy a cheaper X than a normal XS because the improvements are so minor.

Apple builds these phones not to enrich lives, not to build the best phones in the world, but to ensure that their users give them as much of their money as possible, and that Apple is able to keep as much of that money as possible in the form of profit.

There is nothing at all wrong with Apple's business model. In fact, they've built an extraordinarily successful business and deserve all the success they've attained.

Samsung has the same business model at the end of the day. Just two different ways of ending up on the same bus.
Apple discontinued the “x” because the Xs is a major upgrade over the “x”. Not a minor upgrade as you noted. (As a side note all “s” upgrades were fairly major updates)

One can still buy the iPhones 8 and 7 if one doesn’t want the latest tech.

As far as your declaration about “profits first”, I’m still waiting for the buying public to wake up and smell the roses. It’s not going to happen, because while Apple does sell to a certain demographic, a profits first motive is a path to failure.
 
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