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https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-sales-962917/

Preorders are up (likely because of all the freebies that Samsung threw in), but total activations appear to be lower compared to the S9 from last year.

What I predict will happen this quarter is that we will see iPhone sales being buoyed by improving iPhone XR sales (which makes sense, it’s not a phone that people will run out to buy, but rather, when they are ready to upgrade, whenever that is).

The biggest competitor to the iPhone is other older iPhone models, so I am not really worried about other companies such as Samsung and Huawei.

Apple will do just fine. I will enjoy watching Samsung and Huawei ripping each other’s throats out.

As already mentioned Samsung always throws in freebies or offers as they don’t rip their customers off and give them little reason to moan about the product.


Why would you be worried anyway about other companies you don’t work for apple. Apple really needs to sort their crap out as they are giving people less and less reason to upgrade. Do we really expect apple to go down in price with their flagships phones? I just can’t see it. Wouldn’t be as big an issue people paying the price if the features were worthwhile but they simply aren’t for the price. We as customers are getting mugged off and apple are simply laughing at the people paying the money for such min upgrades. That way they can hold off and bring features they should bring out this year next year to spread it out.
 
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Yup, he nails it. Except for the OS. I chose the iPhone XR and bought one, because I don’t want google’s Track-Me-Everywhere feature, well, stealing my life and selling to anyone who want to pay.
I find it funny that a lot of people think android is a privacy mess because in my opinion the difference in iOS and Android is minimal when comparing the latest OSes. For me it seems Android handles privacy the same way iOS does, namely you have a choice on App-level what it may or may not do.

I’m no technician nor a developer but from an outsider look it’s just marketing and an excuse on apple’s part to catch up with the quick development of Android.

Can a developer who has insights share his professional thoughts on this?
 
Here's one tip from my switch experience.

Start small. First, move your most basic mobile app use cases out of Apple to an agnostic app. For example, instead of mail, try G Mail or Proton Mail. Then proceed to other apps. It'll feel weird at first like learning a new language, but after a few weeks, you'll enjoy taking the Apple "handcuffs" off.

The only thing I havent figured out doing a clean 1:1 changeover is my music. I've built up a collection for the past 30 years. iTunes solved it back in the early 2000s, but now I want another seamless way to carry ALL of MY music on my non Apple mobile devices.

I appreciate the suggestion and I am sure it could be done over time, but it’s just too much work. I’d lose so much and not really gain anything at all. Ultimately each platform is so close in functionality right now, it just comes down to personal preference. Plus, I wouldn’t use any Google services so that makes it a whole lot trickier.
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I would be very happy with split screen, PiP, the ability create ringtones without using an app through iTunes, and dark mode in iOS 13. Other than those features, there's not a whole lot I feel I'm missing out on with iOS. I don't customize and I don't root my phones, so the extra functionality of Android is lost on me. I appreciate others like the flexibility. To each their own.

Agreed. There isn’t really much I feel like I’m missing with iOS, but some complications (similar to Apple Watch) on the lock screen would be nice to have also.
 
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I find it funny that a lot of people think android is a privacy mess because in my opinion the difference in iOS and Android is minimal when comparing the latest OSes. For me it seems Android handles privacy the same way iOS does, namely you have a choice on App-level what it may or may not do.

I’m no technician nor a developer but from an outsider look it’s just marketing and an excuse on apple’s part to catch up with the quick development of Android.

Can a developer who has insights share his professional thoughts on this?

This article might be a good place to start.

https://mashable.com/article/google-android-data-collection-study/#tC49o.uqUOqX

The other upside with iOS is the first party alternative to Google’s apps that you get to use. For instance, you can opt for Maps over Google Maps, Safari (with content blockers) over Chrome, iCloud mail over gmail, Calendar over Google Calendar (using iCloud as a backend), iCloud Photo Library as an alternative to google photos, and Siri over Google Assistant.

I cannot not expose my data to Google at all (for instance, I still use gmail, youtube and google drive), but it doesn’t mean I just surrender all of it without a fight.
 
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But you previously claimed that a selling point of Airpods is that they are "cool" and people want to be seen wearing them. In other word, a fashion statement. Which is a representation of a way of life :)
I’ve heard people say that but personally I think there are nicer looking earphones out there. Id much rather have ones that are more discreet in the ear if there are no cables visible. I’m 36 though so my idea of fashion is very different to a current 20 year old lol.
 
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Why would you be worried anyway about other companies you don’t work for apple. Apple really needs to sort their crap out as they are giving people less and less reason to upgrade. Do we really expect apple to go down in price with their flagships phones? I just can’t see it. Wouldn’t be as big an issue people paying the price if the features were worthwhile but they simply aren’t for the price. We as customers are getting mugged off and apple are simply laughing at the people paying the money for such min upgrades. That way they can hold off and bring features they should bring out this year next year to spread it out.
This is probably why I sit in an office full of young people on good money but are using older iPhones lol. I’ve observed a general disinterest in smartphones over the past few years now and as prices are rising and less is being brought to the market, people are content using devices until they break.

Samsung are showing Apple up with slightly lower prices and impressive innovation and have been for a few years now. They might not be dominating but they are demonstrating that Apple are offering less and less each year and charging a premium for features that have been industry standard for some time. As an iPhone user it would be nice to actually be excited to see Apple bringing something to the table that is worthy of not having our pants pulled down over.
 
This is probably why I sit in an office full of young people on good money but are using older iPhones lol. I’ve observed a general disinterest in smartphones over the past few years now and as prices are rising and less is being brought to the market, people are content using devices until they break.

Samsung are showing Apple up with slightly lower prices and impressive innovation and have been for a few years now. They might not be dominating but they are demonstrating that Apple are offering less and less each year and charging a premium for features that have been industry standard for some time. As an iPhone user it would be nice to actually be excited to see Apple bringing something to the table that is worthy of not having our pants pulled down over.

Agreed, I feel like a complete mug for paying what I did for the max and even the ipad pro. While I do love my ipad pro the cost of It was a joke but I plan to keep it for many years as I do find it very useful when at home e.t.c.


I don’t blame yourself for staying with what you use as I just can’t justify the prices for the higher iphone models for what you get. Do I see It changing this year? No given by the rumours of the iphone 11. The fact the charger is suppose to be still 5w charger says it all.
 
It's personalization like adjustable car seats. Do you like adjusting the car seat to accommodate you or have a fixed setting? One basic personalization that iOS really needs is home screen decluttering so that you can put only most often used apps instead of everything and be able to place them anywhere like towards the bottom where it's easier to reach one handed.
I would agree with you, the ability to put apps where I want them would be nice, and useful. There’s really no logical reason this and split screen have not been added to iOS on iPhone at this point.
 
This article might be a good place to start.

https://mashable.com/article/google-android-data-collection-study/#tC49o.uqUOqX

The other upside with iOS is the first party alternative to Google’s apps that you get to use. For instance, you can opt for Maps over Google Maps, Safari (with content blockers) over Chrome, iCloud mail over gmail, Calendar over Google Calendar (using iCloud as a backend), iCloud Photo Library as an alternative to google photos, and Siri over Google Assistant.

I cannot not expose my data to Google at all (for instance, I still use gmail, youtube and google drive), but it doesn’t mean I just surrender all of it without a fight.
Are you a developer with technical software knowledge? I know there are a lot superior programs to Apple’s offerings in terms of features and stability. But that wasn’t my question and you don’t have to highlight Apple’s inferior programs/apps, they haven’t changed much for years.
 
I’ve heard people say that but personally I think there are nicer looking earphones out there. Id much rather have ones that are more discreet in the ear if there are no cables visible. I’m 36 though so my idea of fashion is very different to a current 20 year old lol.
Exactly. They do in my opinion look ridiculous. As I recall, the poster who claimed that people thought they were cool, thought so because they were "distinctive". :)
 
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I cannot not expose my data to Google at all (for instance, I still use gmail, youtube and google drive), but it doesn’t mean I just surrender all of it without a fight.
Lol, so you have big problems with the likes of Google and use every opportunity to spread it like a farmer spreads his ‘****’ on the land. But on the other hand use those services and even admit you can’t avoid it. The contradiction :rolleyes:
 
Lol, so you have big problems with the likes of Google and use every opportunity to spread it like a farmer spreads his ‘****’ on the land. But on the other hand use those services and even admit you can’t avoid it. The contradiction :rolleyes:

I don’t see the contradiction. For example, I know fast food isn’t good for me, but I have no desire to not consume any fast food at all. Rather, what I do is eat in moderation, and make sure I get as much exercise as I can, so as to mitigate the associated risks.

Same here. I use google services because that’s what my school uses, and because some of their services such as youtube, google search and drive are that good. However, I still try to limit my exposure wherever possible, by using other non-google alternatives when the opportunity presents itself. Such as using Maps (which works great in my area), Safari, iCloud Photo Library and notes, so as to minimise the data that Google can collect from me.

How does this make me a hypocrite? I have never said not to use any google services.
 
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Whether that means I am a free-thinking individual or not is besides the point. It’s a phone, not a representation of a way of life.
The free-thinking comment is a red-herring as the comment attempts to make an association (in a reverse negative way) between a characteristic and android. Personally if one is discussing the android personality, I could add some other personality characteristics on the back of free-thinking that isn't flattering.
 
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When I turn on an iPhone, all I want to be greeted with for the first time is a web browser, the App Store, a centralized settings menu, the phone icon, and the messenger icon. The first time I turn on an iPhone and am greeted with 50 shovelware apps, some of which like Facebook that are deep rooted into the operating system, like every god damn android phone out there, the phone will be immediately boxed up and sent back to apple. Then I’ll go to Best Buy, and buy whatever hundred dollar Chinese spy machine they have sitting on the shelf.

The out of the box empty canvas is literally the only selling point apple has left.
 
Major upgrade? I seriously cannot tell right now if you're being sarcastic or not.
If not, you dont have a clue what the hell you're talking about.
A snarky comment on top of an uninformed comment does not a truism make.
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The out of the box empty canvas is literally the only selling point apple has left.
I have my own list of the selling points of apple products and it's more then one.
 
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It’s very easy. Load up any App and perform the same functions on both. Load a photo editor and open a large image file. Do some basic manipulations and see how the device responds. Can you zoom in & out smoothly or is it jittery? Does applying an effect take 1 second on phone A but 2 seconds on phone B?

Or the one people hate - rendering a 4K video file. Tom’s Guide has done this test several times and the difference between an iPhone and other flagships is significant. As in the iPhone finishes several times faster (30 seconds vs 1-3 minutes on others). That’s going to have a far bigger impact on you getting anything done than saving a split second opening an App.

These tests are easy to do yet for some reason nobody ever bothers. Likely because they don’t generate clicks.


Curious, did you see the Photoshop demo on the iPad Pro? They loaded a 3GB image file with 12,000x12,000 resolution and 157 layers. And they were able to move around, zoom in & out and apply effects and everything was snappy. Meanwhile, Photoshop was demoed on a Windows ARM device awhile back and all they did was load a photo and perform a basic function (radial blur) and everyone was like OMG you can run full-blown Photoshop on an ARM processor. Yeah right.

Do you really think exporting a 4K video is more representative of "real world" usage than opening different commonly used apps? I'd say waiting for apps to load/get ready is probably one of the things that affect the majority of mobile user most. If those things go faster fiddling around one in the apps probably do to. But sure, a proper test would be interesting.

Still I'd say both things are of course of interest for the user, but claiming that load times doesn't matter as much doesn't make any sense to me.

But like I said I do think input lag has historically been better on iOS devices, so that's a plus for Apple. Not sure how the new Samsung fares when it comes to that – will be interesting to try.
 
I don’t think how the XR ‘looks bloated’ transcends anything to the average consumer. They see the same design and form factor as the iPhone XS offers. The advantage being to the XR, the battery life is rated off the charts, and I think consumers will take notice on the most important key things, like the battery life, Face ID, LTE reception, wireless charging, etc. those are more pivotal features that I think others focus on versus being overly skeptical of the design , when that doesn’t really seem to be much of a factoring decision when purchasing this phone.
Very good point. Quite frankly, if I were not on this website, I would have never noticed the larger bezels, grayish black instead of OLED deep blacks, and off axis color shift of the XR LCD. These are things 95% of XR customers will never pay attention to, nor should they.
 
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I find fanboyism amusing so I follow this thread. I have both a Samsung and iPhone (one for work the other for personal) and each has benefits and downsides.

The point is use what works for you and not worry if yours is considered the best or not.

I note that in this thread some have alternatively stated that Samsung is getting killed at the premium end by Apple, and getting thrashed at the low end by Chinese phones. Yet, according to Canalys they sold 293 million units, Apple 212 million, Huawei 206 million in 2018. Someone must be buying them!

This is an example of fanboyism - making statements without actually checking facts.
 
I find it funny that a lot of people think android is a privacy mess because in my opinion the difference in iOS and Android is minimal when comparing the latest OSes. For me it seems Android handles privacy the same way iOS does, namely you have a choice on App-level what it may or may not do.

I’m no technician nor a developer but from an outsider look it’s just marketing and an excuse on apple’s part to catch up with the quick development of Android.

Can a developer who has insights share his professional thoughts on this?
That android phones home to google, even to make the user experience better, is probably the reason people think android is a privacy mess. Now security mess, that's another topic.
 
Do you really think exporting a 4K video is more representative of "real world" usage than opening different commonly used apps? I'd say waiting for apps to load/get ready is probably one of the things that affect the majority of mobile user most. If those things go faster fiddling around one in the apps probably do to. But sure, a proper test would be interesting.

Still I'd say both things are of course of interest for the user, but claiming that load times doesn't matter as much doesn't make any sense to me.

But like I said I do think input lag has historically been better on iOS devices, so that's a plus for Apple. Not sure how the new Samsung fares when it comes to that – will be interesting to try.

Load times don’t matter because they are a tiny fraction of your daily use. Further, those idiotic “App races” are not representative of real world use since nobody goes around opening Apps one after the other without actually using them. They also cause issues with a fundamental feature of both Android and iOS - saving states.

Neither OS has a virtual swap file and run on finite RAM. Because of this they manage memory differently than, say, Windows. If an App isn’t being used and you run out of memory, both iOS and Android will force close the App to free up memory. However, they don’t simply shut down the App. Your App will receive a system message saying it’s about to be shut down giving you time (as a developer) to do some housekeeping. This is where you would likely save data about what the user was doing (save the “state”) before the App closes. Then when the App is relaunched you can bring it back to the same “state” as it was previously. This gives the illusion to the user the App was never really closed and was simply waiting in the background.

In Windows the memory an App is using can simply be swapped out to disk if RAM gets low, and swapped back in if the user switches to the App.

iOS and Android have a few differences in how they do this but the concept is the same. There are also other “states” an App can be in (running in foreground, running in background, suspended and so on).

This is where the problem with App races arises. If a user launches an App and then quickly switches to another, what does the developer do? After they realize the user just switched do they take the attitude “the user never did anything so I’m not going to bother saving the state”, or do they perform a state save (which takes a small amount of time) regardless? What does the developer do the second time the App launches? Do they start the App cold with a “clean slate” or do they jump ahead and recover the previous state? This will also affect load times.

Further, since the OS is dealing with a fixed amount of RAM, it will have to prioritize which Apps should remain in memory and which Apps should be closed. It will monitor your usage patterns to make these decisions. Rapidly opening and closing a bunch of Apps in sequence is not going to represent your normal usage pattern and as such will confuse the scheduling/memory management of the OS. How can it learn what Apps you use if you’re just randomly loading up stuff?

In short, App races are a ridiculous way to try and measure performance. They are a recent creation by people desperately looking for something they can show an Android device being faster at.
 
Came close to buying the XR, but no more automatic purchases from Apple for me. I mean, LCD and 720P in 2018? I just can't accept that. The buzz around the 10e has really got me interested. I have to admit, this is the first year I'm honestly interested in a Samsung phone in particular. Using multiple operating systems isn't an inconvenient or negative thing to me. So the "locked into the ecosystem" thing, always seemed like self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Just like anything else in life, never put all your eggs in one basket. I got time, so I'll wait to see what Apple's got in September.
 
That android phones home to google, even to make the user experience better, is probably the reason people think android is a privacy mess. Now security mess, that's another topic.
Are you a developer or software technician?
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I don’t see the contradiction. For example, I know fast food isn’t good for me, but I have no desire to not consume any fast food at all. Rather, what I do is eat in moderation, and make sure I get as much exercise as I can, so as to mitigate the associated risks.

Same here. I use google services because that’s what my school uses, and because some of their services such as youtube, google search and drive are that good. However, I still try to limit my exposure wherever possible, by using other non-google alternatives when the opportunity presents itself. Such as using Maps (which works great in my area), Safari, iCloud Photo Library and notes, so as to minimise the data that Google can collect from me.

How does this make me a hypocrite? I have never said not to use any google services.
I don’t care what you use or think. I was asking if there was a software developer around or software engineer for some professional insight. Spare me your thinking.
 
Are you a developer or software technician?
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I don’t care what you use or think. I was asking if there was a software developer around or software engineer for some professional insight. Spare me your thinking.
In a past life I used to develop operating systems for embedded devices. In fact I was partner of a team that developed one of the first glucose monitoring systems for a major corporation way back in the day. Today I do entrepreneurial work involved in aspects fast rollout, security and privacy.

As far as your response to @Abazigal his ideas and insights are just as welcome as anybody’s.
 
In a past life I used to develop operating systems for embedded devices. In fact I was partner of a team that developed one of the first glucose monitoring systems for a major corporation way back in the day. Today I do entrepreneurial work involved in aspects fast rollout, security and privacy.

As far as your response to @Abazigal his ideas and insights are just as welcome as anybody’s.
Sure are his ideas and insights as “welcome” as others. Hope it’s still a democratic forum. But I was asking for some professional insight from a software developer/engineer and wasn’t waiting for that same old mantra I’ve been hearing over and over again. It’s like asking at the supermarket for a bread and getting an answer from a salesperson about a banana for half an hour, lol.
 
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