Samsung's Studio Display Rival Launching in South Korea Next Week for Equivalent of $1,300

[TechnoMonk]

This is absolutely hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣
Samsung literally have no shame at all.
They could at least try even a tiny bit to not copy Apple's products exactly?
Sure why spend any time developing your own products when you can just get Apple to do all the product design for you

They invested heavily in copying. Those copiers have to churn out something..

 

[EugW]

If you want to see real Apple display knockoff, check this out this 27" monitor.

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I thought this had to be a scam, but nope it's actually legit. Even more surprising is that the frame is actually solid aluminum with real vent holes like in the picture, extremely well built according to reports, and it comes with the height adjustable stand. (The back is a solid sheet at base price. The vent holes are an upgrade option.) The actual 27" screen panels are standard 4K models though, not 5K. Also, you'll see that there is only 1 true USB 3.x USB-C port. The other two USB-C ports are only USB 2.0. It does have an HDMI, DisplayPort, and audio out port though.

 

[2fx1989]

Can you imagine the amount of copying going on over the last few weeks in Samsung etc to "design" their own AR glasses. It'll be an exact copy of Vision Pro with some poxy android crapware installed...

tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock...

 

[Jumpthesnark]

Eager to see some photographers/video editors get this in their hands and see what the color space, calibration and color stability is like. Also how the matte finish (a plus to pros) compares to the nano-texture finish. Based on the review linked in another thread last week, some of the little things like the ability to change brightness from the keyboard are not available. But out of the box, it can do other things the ASD can't. I think it's going to be down to which features are deal-killers for which consumers. Glad to see competition in the 5K space, either way.

 

[antibolo]

No HDMI input is unfortunate. Even if it were limited to 4K, I would like to see a 5K display with an HDMI port so I can also connect game consoles to it (without an expensive HDMI to DisplayPort active converter that adds cable clutter).

 

[azentropy]

Another thought - It really shows what a fantastic value the base 27" 5K iMac was (when it started at $1799 and was often discounted for less). Again was really hoping the S9 would come in at $999 and then discounted for less...

 

[EugW]

Eager to see some photographers/video editors get this in their hands and see what the color space, calibration and color stability is like. Also how the matte finish (a plus to pros) compares to the nano-texture finish. Based on the review linked in another thread last week, some of the little things like the ability to change brightness from the keyboard are not available. But out of the box, it can do other things the ASD can't. I think it's going to be down to which features are deal-killers for which consumers. Glad to see competition in the 5K space, either way.

I use MonitorControl to change brightness from the keyboard for my Huawei monitor.

GitHub - MonitorControl/MonitorControl: 🖥 Control your display's brightness & volume on your Mac as if it was a native Apple Display. Use Apple Keyboard keys or custom shortcuts. Shows the native macOS OSDs.

🖥 Control your display's brightness & volume on your Mac as if it was a native Apple Display. Use Apple Keyboard keys or custom shortcuts. Shows the native macOS OSDs. - MonitorControl/Moni...

github.com

 

[nathansz]

My assumption is this is something that benefits Samsung's bottom line more than the consumer. Like those Vizio TVs sold at Costco, they're cheap in part because they're loaded with apps that help track the viewing habits of the viewer, which is then sold.

I have a Vizio tv. It’s great value. I also don’t let it go online

 

[EugW]

I have a Vizio tv. It’s great value. I also don’t let it go online

The Vizio TVs had poor QA and poor repair records. If you got a good panel with a stable firmware then great, but a lot of people didn't. I still remember the numerous reports of sub-par panels, and the numerous reports of OS lockups requiring physically unplugging the TVs to reboot them.

 

[theluggage]

However, I think it's just this particular monitor, because the matte 30" Apple Cinema HD Display did not have the same off-axis loss of brightness.

Well, yes, but nobody is pretending that the Huawei is a top-end display, while the ACD 30 certainly was in its day (plus, it used a totally different backlighting tech...).

 

[EugW]

Well, yes, but nobody is pretending that the Huawei is a top-end display, while the ACD 30 certainly was in its day (plus, it used a totally different backlighting tech...).

OK, but my cheap matte 24" 1920x1200 Dell doesn't have the off-axis brightness loss either. It was considered a mid-range monitor in its time, nothing like the 30" ACD class.

 

[nathansz]

The Vizio TVs had poor QA and poor repair records. If you got a good panel with a stable firmware then great, but a lot of people didn't. I still remember the numerous reports of sub-par panels, and the numerous reports of OS lockups requiring physically unplugging the TVs to reboot them.

I lucked out with a great panel i guess . I did have to get the main board replaced after about a year. Even after that it was still a good deal. A gamble maybe but it worked for me

 

[CoolSpot]

I say this every time the topic comes up, but Apple needs to fix display scaling so that 5K and 6K panels are not required for monitors above 24".

The PC market is full of incredible 4K monitors in a range of sizes, and there is zero reason why MacOS shouldn't be able to gracefully handle these displays in the 130-160 ppi range.

There are only a small handful of 5-6K panels, all of them are overpriced, and most of them are seriously lacking when it comes to any modern features (60hz in 2023???????).

 

[EugW]

I say this every time the topic comes up, but Apple needs to fix display scaling so that 5K and 6K panels are not required for monitors above 24".

The PC market is full of incredible 4K monitors in a range of sizes, and there is zero reason why MacOS shouldn't be able to gracefully handle these displays in the 130-160 ppi range.

There are only a small handful of 5-6K panels, all of them are overpriced, and most of them are seriously lacking when it comes to any modern features (60hz in 2023???????).

The thing is Apple had it "fixed" but then intentionally broke it, and decided the "broke" version is the way going forward. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

Strictly speaking, their way with their monitors IS better in a lot of ways, but of course not everyone wants always to buy their high priced monitors, myself included.

 

[2fx1989]

I say this every time the topic comes up, but Apple needs to fix display scaling so that 5K and 6K panels are not required for monitors above 24".

The PC market is full of incredible 4K monitors in a range of sizes, and there is zero reason why MacOS shouldn't be able to gracefully handle these displays in the 130-160 ppi range.

There are only a small handful of 5-6K panels, all of them are overpriced, and most of them are seriously lacking when it comes to any modern features (60hz in 2023???????).

This is a genuine question. What's the usefulness of higher than 60hz for anything other than gaming? Maybe Apple doesn't care about for that reason? Gaming isn't a priority?

 

[joecomo]

How many times do they have to talk about stupid monitors from Samsung!!! it’s like every other day

at least this one is better than the other one that was discussed in the last weeks.
This one just does not have an attractive price …

 

[EugW]

This is a genuine question. What's the usefulness of higher than 60hz for anything other than gaming? Maybe Apple doesn't care about for that reason? Gaming isn't a priority?

Some people like ProMotion. For example, the smoothness of the OS feel is nice if you're into that sort of thing, but for me it's not a big draw. It can also help for 24 fps video in certain situations.

I had a 144 Hz screen attached to my Mac mini for a brief time but it was an inferior screen for other reasons. I am back now on 60 Hz but with a higher quality screen, and I'm much happier.

BTW, my screen supports HDR and it works great in macOS and most apps, but for my VPN when I remote into a Windows machine, text quality in the VPN window degrades for some reason, even though it's perfectly fine in the rest of macOS. So I leave HDR off.

 

[2fx1989]

Some people like ProMotion. For example, the smoothness of the OS feel is nice if you're into that sort of thing, but for me it's not a big draw. It can also help for 24 fps video in certain situations.

oh yes, I see, for smoother scrolling etc 👍. You can see I'm still on my iPhone 6S so Pro Motion isn't a thing for me yet

 

[Radin.Y]

I suspect the industry is probably just going to skip 5K and 6K in any meaningful volume and standardise on 32” 8K, which would be great. Pixel doubled 4K will look great on a 32” screen.

Yeah, sure, 32" 8k is great. That would have the same PPI as iPad Pros now. But who needs that pixel density on a monitor THAT big. If you're close enough to appreciate the PPI, you're not far enough to see the whole screen, IMO.
There may be some people who want it, but most won't see the difference.

 

[msackey]

Found a review:

To be honest, I expected it to be a bit cheaper. For $1300, i'd rather pay a few hundred bucks more for Studio Display with better build quality, speakers, no connection issues etc.

Think the ASD feels overpriced but in comparison to the Samsung monitor, it looks really solid, very well-built, and aesthetically well-put together. Like most Apple products, it really has a nice design aesthetic to it.

I was a bit surprised at the Samsung monitor that for how expensive it is, there are parts that scream cheap including the wobbly stand, the very plastic-y looking back, and very tacked on look of a web camera. One thing about Apple is that generally its products feels put together. Very true, there was once the iSight camera which I believe came after the development of the Apple Display and that iSight camera did look tacked on (because it was!).

Anyhow, IF I were on the market for either display (meaning willing to shell out that kind of money for a monitor) I probably would lean towards the ASD too because I do like the aesthetics of it, the well-put together design element, even though it is more expensive and has a worse webcam.

 

[nathansz]

I say this every time the topic comes up, but Apple needs to fix display scaling so that 5K and 6K panels are not required for monitors above 24".

The PC market is full of incredible 4K monitors in a range of sizes, and there is zero reason why MacOS shouldn't be able to gracefully handle these displays in the 130-160 ppi range.

There are only a small handful of 5-6K panels, all of them are overpriced, and most of them are seriously lacking when it comes to any modern features (60hz in 2023???????).

I gave up on this dream a long time ago

I run a 32” 4k screen and just deal with it

“Looks like” 3008x1692 or 2560x1440 aren’t terrible

 

[EugW]

I gave up on this dream a long time ago

I run a 32” 4k screen and just deal with it

“Looks like” 3008x1692 or 2560x1440 aren’t terrible

We all have different preferences, but I think pixel density is still important, even if I don't think 218 ppi is necessary. I had a 32" 4K and did not like 2560x1440 on it very much. That screen is 138 ppi. IMHO:

138 ppi - Usable but mediocre on macOS
164 ppi - Very good
218 ppi - Outstanding

 

[ilikewhey]

Color depth? Don’t tell me they ask $1300 for 8bit.

ASD is 8 bit 😂

 

[ilikewhey]

Eager to see some photographers/video editors get this in their hands and see what the color space, calibration and color stability is like. Also how the matte finish (a plus to pros) compares to the nano-texture finish. Based on the review linked in another thread last week, some of the little things like the ability to change brightness from the keyboard are not available. But out of the box, it can do other things the ASD can't. I think it's going to be down to which features are deal-killers for which consumers. Glad to see competition in the 5K space, either way.

every monitor that has DDC control can be used with 3rd party app to adjust screen brightness, i have a 32inch dell and a 27inch dell that can be adjusted with the f1 and f2 button on my apple keyboard.

 

[mazz0]

I think 5k is overkill at 27". I use a 4k 32" OLED and it's already sharp; I think I'd barely notice the step to 5k at this size. I'd want 5k for anything bigger, but not something smaller.