fleshman03
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you are going to be soooooo disappointed.
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Schiller to Demo Snow Leopard at Macworld?
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you are going to be soooooo disappointed.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
No upgrades
I agree with you that the crowd will be silent. I have been with the non-announcements that Apple has done for a couple of years now.
the iPhone is selling so that may be the high point. After Leopard being so late & so non=polished when it did ship, plus demos for over a year, I would not expect any demo of Snow Leopard, maybe just that we are working on it. They've already did the capacity increase & called it an upgrade for the Intel MacBook Pro 17" model. That plus the fact that new Intel MacBook Pros & Intel MacBooks have just come out. So that eliminates your next two items. iLife 09 & maybe iWork 09 is a possibility, it they have anything to show that is really different & not just a new version to prime the update income. One More Thing, but nothing has been said yet, so that would be the first thing, not one more thing. Additional Glossy ADC, they haven't even taken proper care of what they have now, how can something new be added. But Glossy seems to be the way of the future with Apple. Not good for the Professional Mac User, but Apple has not stressed the Professional User for sometime now. So glossy everything. Even the iPod Touch is being marketed as a game hand held & not a business PDA replacement. For that reason software announced seems more just to be games & not the hoped for by me of some good business apps.
With nothing to be announced it makes one wonder what Phil Shiller did wrong that he has to make this non-keynote keynote speech. I know that I do not plan on listening to it live. I can find ot what happened from some Mac writers that will make it more interesting than it really was.
I agree with you that the crowd will be silent. I have been with the non-announcements that Apple has done for a couple of years now.
the iPhone is selling so that may be the high point. After Leopard being so late & so non=polished when it did ship, plus demos for over a year, I would not expect any demo of Snow Leopard, maybe just that we are working on it. They've already did the capacity increase & called it an upgrade for the Intel MacBook Pro 17" model. That plus the fact that new Intel MacBook Pros & Intel MacBooks have just come out. So that eliminates your next two items. iLife 09 & maybe iWork 09 is a possibility, it they have anything to show that is really different & not just a new version to prime the update income. One More Thing, but nothing has been said yet, so that would be the first thing, not one more thing. Additional Glossy ADC, they haven't even taken proper care of what they have now, how can something new be added. But Glossy seems to be the way of the future with Apple. Not good for the Professional Mac User, but Apple has not stressed the Professional User for sometime now. So glossy everything. Even the iPod Touch is being marketed as a game hand held & not a business PDA replacement. For that reason software announced seems more just to be games & not the hoped for by me of some good business apps.
With nothing to be announced it makes one wonder what Phil Shiller did wrong that he has to make this non-keynote keynote speech. I know that I do not plan on listening to it live. I can find ot what happened from some Mac writers that will make it more interesting than it really was.
ArtOfWarfare
macrumors G3
No I'm not.
I don't seriously expect everything I listed.
I seriously expect a bigger iPod Touch and iPhone (capacity wise that is.)
I expect a new MacMini (although since I bought an iMac just over a year ago, I doubt I'll find myself disappointed whether they do or don't release a new one.)
Software wise, I think Snow Leopard is a definite, and iLife/iWork '09 are maybies. (I would love to see Numbers get updated... everything else seems to work flawlessly so I wouldn't mind if they weren't updated... I suppose Instant Alpha would be nice if it had a corresponding feature to select areas you want to keep so you can make sure you don't accidently remove it.)
fleshman03
macrumors 68000
jaw04005
macrumors 601
Mac OS X major releases, venues and ship dates
Macworld Expo SF 2000 - Mac OS 10.0 announced
Macworld Expo SF 2001 - Mac OS 10.0 Cheetah introduced, shipped March 2001
Macworld Expo NY 2001 - Mac OS 10.1 Puma introduced, shipped September 2001
Macworld Expo NY 2002 - Mac OS 10.2 Jaguar introduced, shipped Auguest 2002
WWDC 2003 - Mac OS 10.3 Panther introduced, shipped October 2003
Macworld Expo SF 2005 - Mac OS 10.4 Tiger introduced, shipped April 2005
WWDC 2005 - Mac OS 10.4 Tiger for Intel introduced, shipped January 2006
WWDC 2005 - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard announced, slated for late 2006 or early 2007
WWDC 2006 - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard introduced, slated for Spring 2007
WWDC 2007 - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard previewed, shipped October 2007
WWDC 2008 - Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard announced, slated for Q2 2009
I would say we are due for a Macworld OS X announcement! 🙂
Macworld Expo SF 2000 - Mac OS 10.0 announced
Macworld Expo SF 2001 - Mac OS 10.0 Cheetah introduced, shipped March 2001
Macworld Expo NY 2001 - Mac OS 10.1 Puma introduced, shipped September 2001
Macworld Expo NY 2002 - Mac OS 10.2 Jaguar introduced, shipped Auguest 2002
WWDC 2003 - Mac OS 10.3 Panther introduced, shipped October 2003
Macworld Expo SF 2005 - Mac OS 10.4 Tiger introduced, shipped April 2005
WWDC 2005 - Mac OS 10.4 Tiger for Intel introduced, shipped January 2006
WWDC 2005 - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard announced, slated for late 2006 or early 2007
WWDC 2006 - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard introduced, slated for Spring 2007
WWDC 2007 - Mac OS 10.5 Leopard previewed, shipped October 2007
WWDC 2008 - Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard announced, slated for Q2 2009
I would say we are due for a Macworld OS X announcement! 🙂
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macrumors P6
MacsRgr8
macrumors G3
So, Phil is doing the <BOOM!!!!> Snow Leopard demo.... doens't feel right.
Wonder if we are ever going to see Steve on stage again.... if he won't even do the 10.6 thinggy... 🙁
But, like the previous rumour / news about the latest Dev build, Mac OS X 10.6 seems so far away from a RC ATM.
A WWDC release still seems most plausible, or maybe a couple of weeks before it, so that a demo of the "Most advanced operating system in the World " "already shipping!" will be shown off again 😉
Wonder if we are ever going to see Steve on stage again.... if he won't even do the 10.6 thinggy... 🙁
But, like the previous rumour / news about the latest Dev build, Mac OS X 10.6 seems so far away from a RC ATM.
A WWDC release still seems most plausible, or maybe a couple of weeks before it, so that a demo of the "Most advanced operating system in the World " "already shipping!" will be shown off again 😉
Peace
Cancelled
All that says is Apple has shifted it's introduction of OSX from Expos to their own Dev conference. And that's where it should be too.
As far as SJ showing up for MWSF. Don't count on it.
SL will not fix MS Entourage, but what it will do is add Microsoft Exchange support to Mail, iCal, and Address Book.
With this (and assuming its done right with *full* support) I will not
need Entourage anymore. Life will be good.
Chris Grande
macrumors 6502
Currently they are saying they will only support Exchange 2007. Which annoys me since we are still using 2003. And the iPhone supports 2003 and 2007.
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Chris Grande
macrumors 6502
Interesting, Apple is clearly saying 2007: "Snow Leopard includes out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 built into Mail, Address Book, and iCal. Mac OS X uses the Exchange Web Services protocol to provide access to Exchange Server 2007. Because Exchange is supported on your Mac and iPhone, you’ll be able to use them anywhere with full access to your email, contacts, and calendar."
Wonder is they figured they should support 2003, since most are slow to update to new versions of exchange.
MacsRgr8
macrumors G3
I haven't tested it, but I seem to remember that in the setup of Address Book and Mail etc, there was only the mention of Exchange 2007.
But, then again, I haven't tested it further, so maybe it works with Exchange 2003 too.
Will Snow Leopard be a full upgrade - i.e. you have to purchase or will it be just a regular upgrade - i.e. FREE!
Just ordered a MBP yesterday and I'd hate to have an obsolete OS already.
Just ordered a MBP yesterday and I'd hate to have an obsolete OS already.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
network23
macrumors 6502
I may be mistaken, but I think that's the whole purpose/goal of OpenCL - to be able to marry 2 completely different CPU/GPUs so that they can share processing power. The SLI/Crossfire stuff has been around for a while and was the first attempt at sharing power between cards. Look at OpenCL as SLI 2.0.
Winni
macrumors 68040
I don't know why so many people expect Snow Leopard to be a late release. Snow Leopard mostly is a performance optimization release and it only brings two or three new features. So why would they work on this for longer than the originally estimated timeframe? It's Leopard V2.0, not something really big and new.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
MacsRgr8
macrumors G3
Grand Central, Open CL, real 64 "bitness" DOES make it really big and new.
If you have bothered to read the leaked seednotes of the laste Dev build, you would have found out how much still is "in progress", not fully functional", "not yet working" etc.
I agree that for the consumer there aren't many new interesting things found in Snow Leopard to make you buy it, except of course the snapper Safari™, but under the hood it is VERY new. And for developers there is some very, very, interesting and totally new development which makes so much difference. Also the server supporting ZFS...
Apart from that, there will be currently undocumented features which will please the consumer. Trust me.... but not as huge as the intro of Front Row, Time Machine, Spotlight, etc.
While Apple does an excellent job of innovating the OS, after all the problems I had with Leopard for the first few months, I would be more willing to buy 10.6 is it's focus is on power, efficiency and stability rather than features.
Ironically, presumably 10.6 will be a much better product from day 1 than Leopard was (surely Apple isn't going to risk releasing an unfinished product again?) - but even so, for the first time in 15 years of being a Mac user, I'll be waiting until any problems get ironed out before I upgrade our Macs. In fact, we're upgrading most of our Macs BEFORE Snow Leopard comes out - nothing worse than buying a new Mac that comes with an OS that doesn't work with some vital software (and you cannot install older versions). I'll buy a family license of Snow Leopard when I've checked that all software will work with it.