Best Buy has the 38 and 42 grey ceramics - I just ordered mine for delivery this Tuesday 3 Oct for $25 overnight shipping. Going to cancel the apple store one for November shortly.
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PSA: Out of warranty service cost for the ceramic edition is a minimum of $800. So I recommend apple care for this watch since it's only $99.
https://support.apple.com/watch/repair/service/pricing
https://support.apple.com/watch/repair/service/pricing
It's because the edition is much more expensive. Also the apple care for the edition would make the warranty coverage and accidental damage coverage 3 years vs 2 years for the aluminum/steel. Apple care is essentially insurance and it's cheaper as a % of the cost to ensure the edition than the aluminum. The aluminum being 11-12% ish versus 7-8% for the aluminum model (42mm).
Again, I don’t care about your personal attack’s. I like it and it fits perfect for my style and locks correctly. I am completely aware of the gap that is left...it’s because it’s a 38mm band. Trust me I own a very large amount of high end watches and have family that even collects watches so I’m very aware of what works. Mind your manners
Both of the 42mm Editions (White and Grey) at Best Buy are now 27 Oct. 38mm is still 4 Oct.
Warning: long post. 
Here is my take on the Series 3 Edition ceramic in grey:
I have been a watch fan for a long while and have over the years invested in watches from Jaeger Le Coultre, Rolex and Breitling. Before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, I was a very happy owner of a Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I loved the utility of the Rolex and at the time the substantial weight of this large 42mm metal watch with its metal bracelet.
So when the Apple Watch was announced I wanted to have something in that direction and went for the silver stainless steel with the silver Apple link band. I really like the similarities ito of weight and the good look for work dress as well as sports.
When the Series 2 came out, I just upgraded to the new stainless steel and kept the band. I also originally eyed the White ceramic when it was announced, but felt it was too flashy for my use in the office. At the time I really got into minimalism and essentialism and got rid of a LOT OF stuff in my life. This included selling all my Swiss watches, which I did not use any more, as I preferred my Apple watch as my daily driver. I love the idea of „one device to rule them all“.
Fast forward another Apple season and I „had to“ make a choice on series 3. I was hoping for a new color option for the ceramic model and maybe even a new material like titanium or carbon. So the grey ceramic looked interesting. But I had huge doubts that it might look too dull or not dressy enough vs. the steel model I got used to. I also like the new Hermes deployment buckle in dark brown Ebene and thought that is the perfect choice: get the Hermes which also includes the orange sport band and get a new link band in silver as my original one looked quite used after two years. So three bands which allow flexibility from dressy (Hermes Ebene) to Rolex-sporty (link) to pure sports (orange sport band). That is what I ordered with a 3 weeks wait on the Hermes. Buyers remorse set in imidiately and I was wondering if the various band changes in the future (I do sports at least every 2nd day) will be the exact opposite to my new love of minimalism. I also had a chance to see the watch live in an Apple store in London during a trip and did not like how the leather band connects with the watch.
That was the moment where all became „ceramic clear“ for me: go with the edition, as it will be the most minimalistic execution while also being the highest quality construction. It will also not scratch so easily as the steel version, where both precious models I owned have very light but visible scratches on the steel. For my regular running (100-150km per month) it would also be lighter and more comfortable to wear than running with the link steel version like I did over the past two years. So I cancelled my Hermes, sent back the Apple link bracelet which had already arrived and bought (at a premium) the edition in grey through ebay, as I did not like to wait till end of October.
It arrived quickly and I could not be happier. Here is why: I love the stealth luxury aspect of this model. I know about all the craftmanship that went into the ceramic casing and I know about the price, but the watch is not showing this of to others like an expensive Swiss watch tends to do. I love how comfortable it wears and that it will look pristine in the months to come, as it does not scratch easily. I especially like the light weight of the package, which is funny as I was always so happy how heavy my Rolex Explorer II felt. People change I guess ;-)
While the steel version interprets what Rolex and Omega have established on Swiss tool watches, the ceramic edition reminds me of the Swiss Richard Mille watches that Rafael Nadal and other top atheletes wear. They are out of this world ito of price (up to 750k USD), but are the lightest weight complication watches and use cutting edge material combination to achieve this. Even the rubber bands and how they connect look similar to Apple Watch (see the comparison picture I did). Maybe that is where Jony Ive got his idea for the red dot from, too ;-) Any Swiss watch aficionado will probably hate me for this comparison, but as my first two generations of steel apple watches were my equivalent to a tool watch Rolex, my new grey ceramic edition is my equivalent to a Richard Mille. And while the Richard Milles are way more extravagant, they also are only recognized by watch experts. Just like the ceramic is only recognized by people like us here on this threat. So one watch to rule them all and that for now is the ceramic grey Apple watch edition for me. Until next year that is.
Here is my take on the Series 3 Edition ceramic in grey:
I have been a watch fan for a long while and have over the years invested in watches from Jaeger Le Coultre, Rolex and Breitling. Before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, I was a very happy owner of a Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I loved the utility of the Rolex and at the time the substantial weight of this large 42mm metal watch with its metal bracelet.
So when the Apple Watch was announced I wanted to have something in that direction and went for the silver stainless steel with the silver Apple link band. I really like the similarities ito of weight and the good look for work dress as well as sports.
When the Series 2 came out, I just upgraded to the new stainless steel and kept the band. I also originally eyed the White ceramic when it was announced, but felt it was too flashy for my use in the office. At the time I really got into minimalism and essentialism and got rid of a LOT OF stuff in my life. This included selling all my Swiss watches, which I did not use any more, as I preferred my Apple watch as my daily driver. I love the idea of „one device to rule them all“.
Fast forward another Apple season and I „had to“ make a choice on series 3. I was hoping for a new color option for the ceramic model and maybe even a new material like titanium or carbon. So the grey ceramic looked interesting. But I had huge doubts that it might look too dull or not dressy enough vs. the steel model I got used to. I also like the new Hermes deployment buckle in dark brown Ebene and thought that is the perfect choice: get the Hermes which also includes the orange sport band and get a new link band in silver as my original one looked quite used after two years. So three bands which allow flexibility from dressy (Hermes Ebene) to Rolex-sporty (link) to pure sports (orange sport band). That is what I ordered with a 3 weeks wait on the Hermes. Buyers remorse set in imidiately and I was wondering if the various band changes in the future (I do sports at least every 2nd day) will be the exact opposite to my new love of minimalism. I also had a chance to see the watch live in an Apple store in London during a trip and did not like how the leather band connects with the watch.
That was the moment where all became „ceramic clear“ for me: go with the edition, as it will be the most minimalistic execution while also being the highest quality construction. It will also not scratch so easily as the steel version, where both precious models I owned have very light but visible scratches on the steel. For my regular running (100-150km per month) it would also be lighter and more comfortable to wear than running with the link steel version like I did over the past two years. So I cancelled my Hermes, sent back the Apple link bracelet which had already arrived and bought (at a premium) the edition in grey through ebay, as I did not like to wait till end of October.
It arrived quickly and I could not be happier. Here is why: I love the stealth luxury aspect of this model. I know about all the craftmanship that went into the ceramic casing and I know about the price, but the watch is not showing this of to others like an expensive Swiss watch tends to do. I love how comfortable it wears and that it will look pristine in the months to come, as it does not scratch easily. I especially like the light weight of the package, which is funny as I was always so happy how heavy my Rolex Explorer II felt. People change I guess ;-)
While the steel version interprets what Rolex and Omega have established on Swiss tool watches, the ceramic edition reminds me of the Swiss Richard Mille watches that Rafael Nadal and other top atheletes wear. They are out of this world ito of price (up to 750k USD), but are the lightest weight complication watches and use cutting edge material combination to achieve this. Even the rubber bands and how they connect look similar to Apple Watch (see the comparison picture I did). Maybe that is where Jony Ive got his idea for the red dot from, too ;-) Any Swiss watch aficionado will probably hate me for this comparison, but as my first two generations of steel apple watches were my equivalent to a tool watch Rolex, my new grey ceramic edition is my equivalent to a Richard Mille. And while the Richard Milles are way more extravagant, they also are only recognized by watch experts. Just like the ceramic is only recognized by people like us here on this threat. So one watch to rule them all and that for now is the ceramic grey Apple watch edition for me. Until next year that is.
Nice one on the grey also love the Explorer watch face
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Warning: long post.
Here is my take on the Series 3 Edition ceramic in grey:
I have been a watch fan for a long while and have over the years invested in watches from Jaeger Le Coultre, Rolex and Breitling. Before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, I was a very happy owner of a Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I loved the utility of the Rolex and at the time the substantial weight of this large 42mm metal watch with its metal bracelet.
So when the Apple Watch was announced I wanted to have something in that direction and went for the <snip>
Love this story. Selling my Omega Seamaster for the Apple Watch so I can relate. I love the craftsmanship of the Omega but cannot deny the utility of the Apple Watch. My Seamaster is the Diver 300M, also known as “The Bond” watch. But I sometimes think that if Ian Fleming had created 007 in 2015, he would have written the character using an Apple Watch. The only thing the AW lacks is a laser beam, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s in next year’s model.
Congratulations with the grey ceramic and a Nic eposting. I hav eta wait another 3-4 weeks before I get mine, but have the exact same feelings.Warning: long post.
Here is my take on the Series 3 Edition ceramic in grey:
I have been a watch fan for a long while and have over the years invested in watches from Jaeger Le Coultre, Rolex and Breitling. Before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, I was a very happy owner of a Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I loved the utility of the Rolex and at the time the substantial weight of this large 42mm metal watch with its metal bracelet.
So when the Apple Watch was announced I wanted to have something in that direction and went for the silver stainless steel with the silver Apple link band. I really like the similarities ito of weight and the good look for work dress as well as sports.
When the Series 2 came out, I just upgraded to the new stainless steel and kept the band. I also originally eyed the White ceramic when it was announced, but felt it was too flashy for my use in the office. At the time I really got into minimalism and essentialism and got rid of a LOT OF stuff in my life. This included selling all my Swiss watches, which I did not use any more, as I preferred my Apple watch as my daily driver. I love the idea of „one device to rule them all“.
Fast forward another Apple season and I „had to“ make a choice on series 3. I was hoping for a new color option for the ceramic model and maybe even a new material like titanium or carbon. So the grey ceramic looked interesting. But I had huge doubts that it might look too dull or not dressy enough vs. the steel model I got used to. I also like the new Hermes deployment buckle in dark brown Ebene and thought that is the perfect choice: get the Hermes which also includes the orange sport band and get a new link band in silver as my original one looked quite used after two years. So three bands which allow flexibility from dressy (Hermes Ebene) to Rolex-sporty (link) to pure sports (orange sport band). That is what I ordered with a 3 weeks wait on the Hermes. Buyers remorse set in imidiately and I was wondering if the various band changes in the future (I do sports at least every 2nd day) will be the exact opposite to my new love of minimalism. I also had a chance to see the watch live in an Apple store in London during a trip and did not like how the leather band connects with the watch.
That was the moment where all became „ceramic clear“ for me: go with the edition, as it will be the most minimalistic execution while also being the highest quality construction. It will also not scratch so easily as the steel version, where both precious models I owned have very light but visible scratches on the steel. For my regular running (100-150km per month) it would also be lighter and more comfortable to wear than running with the link steel version like I did over the past two years. So I cancelled my Hermes, sent back the Apple link bracelet which had already arrived and bought (at a premium) the edition in grey through ebay, as I did not like to wait till end of October.
It arrived quickly and I could not be happier. Here is why: I love the stealth luxury aspect of this model. I know about all the craftmanship that went into the ceramic casing and I know about the price, but the watch is not showing this of to others like an expensive Swiss watch tends to do. I love how comfortable it wears and that it will look pristine in the months to come, as it does not scratch easily. I especially like the light weight of the package, which is funny as I was always so happy how heavy my Rolex Explorer II felt. People change I guess ;-)
While the steel version interprets what Rolex and Omega have established on Swiss tool watches, the ceramic edition reminds me of the Swiss Richard Mille watches that Rafael Nadal and other top atheletes wear. They are out of this world ito of price (up to 750k USD), but are the lightest weight complication watches and use cutting edge material combination to achieve this. Even the rubber bands and how they connect look similar to Apple Watch (see the comparison picture I did). Maybe that is where Jony Ive got his idea for the red dot from, too ;-) Any Swiss watch aficionado will probably hate me for this comparison, but as my first two generations of steel apple watches were my equivalent to a tool watch Rolex, my new grey ceramic edition is my equivalent to a Richard Mille. And while the Richard Milles are way more extravagant, they also are only recognized by watch experts. Just like the ceramic is only recognized by people like us here on this threat. So one watch to rule them all and that for now is the ceramic grey Apple watch edition for me. Until next year that is.
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Nice one on the grey, absolve the Explore watch face
Congratulations with the ceramic grey and your posting; well done !
I have to wait another 3-4 weeks before I get mine, but have the exact same feelings on the grey. I collect vintage IWC and Rolex watches and my first Apple Watch was a Hermès single tour fauve barenia. A watch which is still my favourite as I can mix it with nearly every band.
Last year I got a SB SS Series 2. Th battery life is so much better than with the first AW, but to be honest it is not very special. I give to one of my sons.
Now with Series 3, the choice was very easy. The aluminium does not attract me and the ceramic white is stunning but not my piece of cake.
The ceramic grey though, has a very special colour. I call it Audi Nardo Grey (see attachment of a Audi RS3 I drove with). You like it or not, but for me it will better fit with my daily life.
I also have to confess that my watch collection is taking dust. I only wear them on special occasions. Only positive is that their prices will increase where the Apple watches won’t. Well you can’t have all
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Great story and thanks for sharing. It’s nice to hear a prospective from a Swiss watch collector. I’ve always wonder what’s their take on Apple Watch!Warning: long post.
Here is my take on the Series 3 Edition ceramic in grey:
I have been a watch fan for a long while and have over the years invested in watches from Jaeger Le Coultre, Rolex and Breitling. Before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, I was a very happy owner of a Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I loved the utility of the Rolex and at the time the substantial weight of this large 42mm metal watch with its metal bracelet.
So when the Apple Watch was announced I wanted to have something in that direction and went for the silver stainless steel with the silver Apple link band. I really like the similarities ito of weight and the good look for work dress as well as sports.
When the Series 2 came out, I just upgraded to the new stainless steel and kept the band. I also originally eyed the White ceramic when it was announced, but felt it was too flashy for my use in the office. At the time I really got into minimalism and essentialism and got rid of a LOT OF stuff in my life. This included selling all my Swiss watches, which I did not use any more, as I preferred my Apple watch as my daily driver. I love the idea of „one device to rule them all“.
Fast forward another Apple season and I „had to“ make a choice on series 3. I was hoping for a new color option for the ceramic model and maybe even a new material like titanium or carbon. So the grey ceramic looked interesting. But I had huge doubts that it might look too dull or not dressy enough vs. the steel model I got used to. I also like the new Hermes deployment buckle in dark brown Ebene and thought that is the perfect choice: get the Hermes which also includes the orange sport band and get a new link band in silver as my original one looked quite used after two years. So three bands which allow flexibility from dressy (Hermes Ebene) to Rolex-sporty (link) to pure sports (orange sport band). That is what I ordered with a 3 weeks wait on the Hermes. Buyers remorse set in imidiately and I was wondering if the various band changes in the future (I do sports at least every 2nd day) will be the exact opposite to my new love of minimalism. I also had a chance to see the watch live in an Apple store in London during a trip and did not like how the leather band connects with the watch.
That was the moment where all became „ceramic clear“ for me: go with the edition, as it will be the most minimalistic execution while also being the highest quality construction. It will also not scratch so easily as the steel version, where both precious models I owned have very light but visible scratches on the steel. For my regular running (100-150km per month) it would also be lighter and more comfortable to wear than running with the link steel version like I did over the past two years. So I cancelled my Hermes, sent back the Apple link bracelet which had already arrived and bought (at a premium) the edition in grey through ebay, as I did not like to wait till end of October.
It arrived quickly and I could not be happier. Here is why: I love the stealth luxury aspect of this model. I know about all the craftmanship that went into the ceramic casing and I know about the price, but the watch is not showing this of to others like an expensive Swiss watch tends to do. I love how comfortable it wears and that it will look pristine in the months to come, as it does not scratch easily. I especially like the light weight of the package, which is funny as I was always so happy how heavy my Rolex Explorer II felt. People change I guess ;-)
While the steel version interprets what Rolex and Omega have established on Swiss tool watches, the ceramic edition reminds me of the Swiss Richard Mille watches that Rafael Nadal and other top atheletes wear. They are out of this world ito of price (up to 750k USD), but are the lightest weight complication watches and use cutting edge material combination to achieve this. Even the rubber bands and how they connect look similar to Apple Watch (see the comparison picture I did). Maybe that is where Jony Ive got his idea for the red dot from, too ;-) Any Swiss watch aficionado will probably hate me for this comparison, but as my first two generations of steel apple watches were my equivalent to a tool watch Rolex, my new grey ceramic edition is my equivalent to a Richard Mille. And while the Richard Milles are way more extravagant, they also are only recognized by watch experts. Just like the ceramic is only recognized by people like us here on this threat. So one watch to rule them all and that for now is the ceramic grey Apple watch edition for me. Until next year that is.
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It’s nice to hear a prospective from a Swiss watch collector. I’ve always wonder what’s their take on Apple Watch
Great story. I used to also be a big watch collector but decided it was just costing me too much buying and then flipping for something else or having multiple high end watches. After being on a waiting list I finally got my grail watch and sold off my Sub and Omega Ceramic DS of the moon. After picking up the grey ceramic AW last fri I have not worn the Daytona since. I really like how useful the AW watch is and love the look and feel of the Ceramic. Its so comfortable I even leave it on just sitting around the house where my metal watches would come off. The Daytona will be my last mechanical as I just see them going the way of pocket watches in a few years with the rate the AW is progressing. Sure the Daytona is in a different league but the AW is way more useful and after owning the previous version I feel Apple really nailed it this time with the HW and SW on the 3. I will use the AW as my daily driver and keep the Daytona for special occasions. I know it would have been more practical getting a the AL or SS but I just like premium and exotic materials when it comes to watches. I thought it would fly way under the radar but I've gotten so many compliments etc "is that the ceramic AW3"
As far as the rectangle shape I think our culture will get more used to it vs round esp for smart watches. It would drive me nuts trying to read stuff on a round screen getting cut off or cropped into a smaller square in a circle. Everything we do as far as getting data is on a rectangle platform wether it be a book, iPhone, kindle, computer, tv etc. I really hope apple doesn't go round for future watches. Time to move past the analog clock/watch being round paradigm.
As far as the rectangle shape I think our culture will get more used to it vs round esp for smart watches. It would drive me nuts trying to read stuff on a round screen getting cut off or cropped into a smaller square in a circle. Everything we do as far as getting data is on a rectangle platform wether it be a book, iPhone, kindle, computer, tv etc. I really hope apple doesn't go round for future watches. Time to move past the analog clock/watch being round paradigm.
Warning: long post.
Here is my take on the Series 3 Edition ceramic in grey:
I have been a watch fan for a long while and have over the years invested in watches from Jaeger Le Coultre, Rolex and Breitling. Before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, I was a very happy owner of a Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I loved the utility of the Rolex and at the time the substantial weight of this large 42mm metal watch with its metal bracelet.
So when the Apple Watch was announced I wanted to have something in that direction and went for the silver stainless steel with the silver Apple link band. I really like the similarities ito of weight and the good look for work dress as well as sports.
When the Series 2 came out, I just upgraded to the new stainless steel and kept the band. I also originally eyed the White ceramic when it was announced, but felt it was too flashy for my use in the office. At the time I really got into minimalism and essentialism and got rid of a LOT OF stuff in my life. This included selling all my Swiss watches, which I did not use any more, as I preferred my Apple watch as my daily driver. I love the idea of „one device to rule them all“.
Fast forward another Apple season and I „had to“ make a choice on series 3. I was hoping for a new color option for the ceramic model and maybe even a new material like titanium or carbon. So the grey ceramic looked interesting. But I had huge doubts that it might look too dull or not dressy enough vs. the steel model I got used to. I also like the new Hermes deployment buckle in dark brown Ebene and thought that is the perfect choice: get the Hermes which also includes the orange sport band and get a new link band in silver as my original one looked quite used after two years. So three bands which allow flexibility from dressy (Hermes Ebene) to Rolex-sporty (link) to pure sports (orange sport band). That is what I ordered with a 3 weeks wait on the Hermes. Buyers remorse set in imidiately and I was wondering if the various band changes in the future (I do sports at least every 2nd day) will be the exact opposite to my new love of minimalism. I also had a chance to see the watch live in an Apple store in London during a trip and did not like how the leather band connects with the watch.
That was the moment where all became „ceramic clear“ for me: go with the edition, as it will be the most minimalistic execution while also being the highest quality construction. It will also not scratch so easily as the steel version, where both precious models I owned have very light but visible scratches on the steel. For my regular running (100-150km per month) it would also be lighter and more comfortable to wear than running with the link steel version like I did over the past two years. So I cancelled my Hermes, sent back the Apple link bracelet which had already arrived and bought (at a premium) the edition in grey through ebay, as I did not like to wait till end of October.
It arrived quickly and I could not be happier. Here is why: I love the stealth luxury aspect of this model. I know about all the craftmanship that went into the ceramic casing and I know about the price, but the watch is not showing this of to others like an expensive Swiss watch tends to do. I love how comfortable it wears and that it will look pristine in the months to come, as it does not scratch easily. I especially like the light weight of the package, which is funny as I was always so happy how heavy my Rolex Explorer II felt. People change I guess ;-)
While the steel version interprets what Rolex and Omega have established on Swiss tool watches, the ceramic edition reminds me of the Swiss Richard Mille watches that Rafael Nadal and other top atheletes wear. They are out of this world ito of price (up to 750k USD), but are the lightest weight complication watches and use cutting edge material combination to achieve this. Even the rubber bands and how they connect look similar to Apple Watch (see the comparison picture I did). Maybe that is where Jony Ive got his idea for the red dot from, too ;-) Any Swiss watch aficionado will probably hate me for this comparison, but as my first two generations of steel apple watches were my equivalent to a tool watch Rolex, my new grey ceramic edition is my equivalent to a Richard Mille. And while the Richard Milles are way more extravagant, they also are only recognized by watch experts. Just like the ceramic is only recognized by people like us here on this threat. So one watch to rule them all and that for now is the ceramic grey Apple watch edition for me. Until next year that is.
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While I marvel at many watches and their absolutely beauty, my wrist would never support a Rolex Submariner or similar.
I stopped wearing any type of watch when I reported to my first submarine.
Occasionally I would wear my slim Seiko.
To me the apple watch is a marketing name. It should be called the apple gadget. I am not sure how much I use it as a watch compared to using it as a gadget.
my believe is the shape of the Watch was derived from the geeks in the lab wearing calculator watches figuring out their bonuses if the Apple Watch actually took off..
Yes it is an electronic gadget thats meant to replace traditional watches not compliment them. Too bad you can't wear a nice mechanical on one hand and the AW on the other without looking like a complete tool lol. High end watches are just fancy/nice jewelry and are no longer necessary to tell the time The time is just about everywhere. PC at work, iPhone, car, microwave etc. I don't think anyone buys a Rolex to tell the time but they do buy an AW for its useful features. In the next 5 years ago smart watches will be so integrated in our lives like the phone that very few people will wear an analog watch. Its already happening now. They will be herloims thats your kids or grandkids won't use if you have those.
Im realy enjoying the notifications and the ability to adjust my AirPods volume and see what track is playing wo taking out my phone out.
Im realy enjoying the notifications and the ability to adjust my AirPods volume and see what track is playing wo taking out my phone out.
I totally agree with Robbenisland , I use to collect watches. I now just own the one and it works in all situations. I just use the standard band it comes with and wear it for literally everything.
Let’s be honest, do you wear (or try very hard to resist wearing) the AW on the other wrist when you put on the Daytona?
This is a big reason I’m leaning towards the white. It seems to work with more faces and bands than the gray. At the same time, I had a white for the Series 2 (which I now sold) so maybe it’d be nice to have the new color.
A point for the gray is that it looks different under different lighting, so it looks like a different watch at different times of day.
So torn on the decision (I know, first world problems) that I would appreciate any input that may help me make a decision.
I’m in the same boat, I love my Series 2 white edition but really am into the new grey. I’ve got a ton of bands so a series 3 white makes the most sense but I prefer the subtlety of the grey.