Seriously, AT&T people, be honest.

[Weiser878]

Well, I don't have WiFi at home, and most of the crappy WiFi hotspots across my town are slower than the 5Mbps I can get on the AT&T network anyway, so I very rarely use WiFi.
I constantly use data while on the phone.
I use TeamViewer to provide mobile support to several windows computers a few times a week. While I'm working on the virtual terminal, I'm generally on the phone with whichever idiot who's computer I'm into.
I use MyWi quite a bit (No home WiFi, remember) and I like to still be online streaming Hulu or whatever while I'm on the phone.
No to mention all the times I send or receive a email or check a webpage while I'm on a call.

I can see how its not a big deal to some, but to me, no simultaneous voice and data (and 3G speeds below 3Mbps) is a deal breaker (as would be not having a jailbroken iPhone)

I know I'm an exception to the rule. But you asked, so I answered

 

[LapsangSouchong]

Please honest answers only.

How often do you use voice and data simultaneously when you're NOT connected WiFi network? Think about it. Because 99% of my day, everyday I'm at work or home or a friends house and all three have WiFi.

I am on Verizon with a Droid X and I very comfortably use data and talk at the same time anytime I need to. The only time I'm not near a WiFi network is when I am driving and when I am driving, I am not surfing the web, especially when on a call.

AND to top it off, if you are an Optimum or Time Warner customer, it's likely there is free wifi for your entire county.

I do not think the lack of this feature is a big deal with WiFi literally everywhere. Especially a feature that isn't really used that often to begin with. Look at the commercials Apple has produced. NONE of them are real life situations.

Sorry, but AT&T has nothing but this one teeny thing on Verizon. And this teeny thing doesn't matter to many people, again, because of WiFi.

Quite a bit, actually. So much so that I'd NEVER go back. I'd never have a JB iphone on tmo for exactly that reason. I guess I don't get the notion of challenging other folks' needs and wants. If CDMA and verizon suit your needs, great! They don't suit mine.

 

[karsten]

Please honest answers only.

How often do you use voice and data simultaneously when you're NOT connected WiFi network? Think about it. Because 99% of my day, everyday I'm at work or home or a friends house and all three have WiFi.

I am on Verizon with a Droid X and I very comfortably use data and talk at the same time anytime I need to. The only time I'm not near a WiFi network is when I am driving and when I am driving, I am not surfing the web, especially when on a call.

AND to top it off, if you are an Optimum or Time Warner customer, it's likely there is free wifi for your entire county.

I do not think the lack of this feature is a big deal with WiFi literally everywhere. Especially a feature that isn't really used that often to begin with. Look at the commercials Apple has produced. NONE of them are real life situations.

Sorry, but AT&T has nothing but this one teeny thing on Verizon. And this teeny thing doesn't matter to many people, again, because of WiFi.

wifi doesnt work going down the road when you need to look up something.

 

[schwell]

OKAY - I've never worked in an office. As I am right now, in mid-town Manhattan.

If I'm working, I'm on WiFi in my office. If I'm working I'm near a computer. I'm not at lunch receiving business calls and reviewing spreadsheets. Give me a break. Anytime someone calls you in regards to an email, they've already sent it and you've already received it. I guess you don't know what it's like to work in an office.

Maybe this would come in handy sometimes, but the vast majority of businessmen are on Blackberry devices on Verizon and you don't hear them bitching about not being able to do such a thing. I have NEVER heard of a SINGLE Verizon customer wish they could "talk and surf the web simultaneously." The Apple advertisements for it are ridiculous -- The man buys his wife flowers as he says "I'll be home soon." Ridiculous.

No one has yet to mention a truly everyday practical experience, because there isn't one. Between spotty coverage and simultaneous data/voice vs nearly perfect coverage and no simultaneous data/voice -- I think it's safe to say the perfect coverage wins. No matter how you cut it, the feature isn't a big deal to everyday use.

Most on Verizon don't even know they CAN'T do that, because they haven't even tried.

Many many times I am on a conference call AWAY from wifi. Someone sends me an email and asks me to look at it during the call. Good luck doing that on Verizon. It also comes in handy being able to monitor your emails while you are stuck on a call for an hour or two. I have enjoyed this capability with both my iPhone and previously with a blackberry on AT&T. In fact, it became very frustrating and inconvenient for me at one point when the 3G antennae stopped working in my blackberry and I was only able to use edge.

 

[Sparkz1920]

I dont use it often, however, Its a nice feature to have that definitely comes in handy. Not sure if it would be a dealbreaker for me. I think can live w/o it. I dont have to though, because Ive been fine with ATT since 2004

 

[Mr. Incredible]

Please honest answers only.

How often do you use voice and data simultaneously when you're NOT connected WiFi network? Think about it. Because 99% of my day, everyday I'm at work or home or a friends house and all three have WiFi.

I am on Verizon with a Droid X and I very comfortably use data and talk at the same time anytime I need to. The only time I'm not near a WiFi network is when I am driving and when I am driving, I am not surfing the web, especially when on a call.

AND to top it off, if you are an Optimum or Time Warner customer, it's likely there is free wifi for your entire county.

I do not think the lack of this feature is a big deal with WiFi literally everywhere. Especially a feature that isn't really used that often to begin with. Look at the commercials Apple has produced. NONE of them are real life situations.

Sorry, but AT&T has nothing but this one teeny thing on Verizon. And this teeny thing doesn't matter to many people, again, because of WiFi.

You can use both Data and Talk at the same time with your Droid X on WiFi only or 3G?

If you can use it for 3G, then whats the big deal with iPhone and Talk and Data at the same time on Verizon? Is it not possible or something?

 

[NKT]

You can use both Data and Talk at the same time with your Droid X on WiFi only or 3G?

If you can use it for 3G, then whats the big deal with iPhone and Talk and Data at the same time on Verizon? Is it not possible or something?

It's only for 3G+WiFi. The voice uses 3G and data will use WiFi.

Not a perfect solution but does allow simultaneous voice and data. So if you have easy access to WiF, you're golden.

 

[parker770]

I love that I can download music OTA on iTunes while I'm on the phone also...it's really a convenience you can only appreciate if you have the ability to do so

This. I can't tell you how many times I have heard the tail end of a song on the radio in the car, and downloaded it on the spot, even while talking on the phone!

 

[bmwhd]

Oh, and lets not forget, 99% of the day we're near WiFi so, problem solved.

All kidding aside, the chances that people run into the situations you described and aren't near WiFi are slim to none, besides the maps one. That is a very solid point and probably the only time I really needed data and voice in my life.

Nonetheless, the fact that AT&T fanboys bring up Voice/Data simultaneously as their number 1 argument for why the far inferior AT&T is better, is bogus. There are alot of things that are great and bad about both networks, but if AT&T has to use the voice/data as their number 1 argument, they have bigger problems than the iPhone going to Verizon.

Not sure why this issue fires your passion so strongly but I'm sorry, you're dead wrong about this. That may be your world view and that's fine but for others of us, having experienced simultaneous voice/data is similar to how google or the internet itself has affected our lives. We certainly lived well before either but we live better with them and would not like to give them up.

I for one use data A LOT when I'm on calls. I like that feature of AT&T enough to put up with other short comings. I've been a customer of VZW for many years too so I have a good sense of what works and doesn't work FOR ME. You are free to make your own choice.

 

[spencers]

I haven't read the entire thread so pardon me if this is a repeated question..

But what will happen if you have Mobile Hotspot turned on with a computer connected and downloading something, and then receive a call?

Failed call or failed download?

 

[redcupr]

The question was not do you use it. The question was, how often do you use it when you aren't connected to a WiFi network (i.e. home, work).

That's the only time I use voice/data at the same time, is when I'm not connected to WiFi. If I'm at home with WiFi available, I'll use the laptop...

 

[gigapocket1]

I use it quite frequently.. Wheneva im on the phone i always have my headphones on.. So i am always reading something on twitter, looking at maps while im driving, posting something on facebook.. Etc... You may not think its that big of a deal, but that is 1 of the main reasons why i wont be switching to Verizon. I've got used to using it so much that I can't go back.

 

[Crackbone]

I haven't read the entire thread so pardon me if this is a repeated question..

But what will happen if you have Mobile Hotspot turned on with a computer connected and downloading something, and then receive a call?

Failed call or failed download?

The call gets priority, so the data connection will be cut and the phone will ring. Now, the download should resume after the call is ended. (depends upon if the download times out, etc).

The call gets priority.

 

[Wide opeN]

It's only for 3G+WiFi. The voice uses 3G and data will use WiFi.

Not a perfect solution but does allow simultaneous voice and data. So if you have easy access to WiF, you're golden.

Actually, the voice uses 1xRTT. And it still isn't simultaneous voice and data via the VZW NETWORK.

Just saying.

 

[Wide opeN]

The call gets priority, so the data connection will be cut and the phone will ring. Now, the download should resume after the call is ended. (depends upon if the download times out, etc).

The call gets priority.

The last I knew and I could be WRONG, is, if your data is IDLE as in reading a cached/downloaded webpage then the call will come through.

BUT

If you're ACTIVELY transmitting data the call will be forwarded to voicemail.

Once again I could be WRONG but last I knew this was how EDGE/CDMA data worked.

Any TECHNICAL explanations/clarifications are welcome!!!

 

[Crackbone]

The last I knew and I could be WRONG, is, if your data is IDLE as in reading a cached/downloaded webpage then the call will come through.

BUT

If you're ACTIVELY transmitting data the call will be forwarded to voicemail.

Once again I could be WRONG but last I knew this was how EDGE/CDMA data worked.

Any TECHNICAL explanations/clarifications are welcome!!!

Edge works the way you describe.

The current implementation of CDMA on Verizon and Sprint doesn't. Verizon and Sprint both prioritize the voice. I've used both with newer smartphones and that's precisely what will happen.

The data will be cut the minute someone tries to initiate a voice call to you. It will resume after you take the call or push it to voicemail.

Regards,

Crack.

 

[Wide opeN]

There you have it. You learn something new each day.

 

[NKT]

Actually, the voice uses 1xRTT. And it still isn't simultaneous voice and data via the VZW NETWORK.

Just saying.

Ok, I think some clarification needs to be made. There are 2 separate services, voice and data. There are 2 separate techs used for each, 2G and 3G. When I said voice will use 3G, I didn't mean 3G data (EvDO/1x). I meant 3G voice (1xRTT). I don't know of any devices on VZW that are still using 2G for voice services (maybe one or 2 really old legacy devices that nobody has bothered to upgrade...).

1xRTT IS 3G voice.

 

[Interstella5555]

Ok OP, we get it, you use your phone in a different way than us, you'll probably be very happy on Verizon. Just a couple questions:

Did you complain about multitasking on the iPhone before it was implemented?
Do you ever walk and chew gum at the same time?
Listen to music while you looked something up online?
How about watch a movie and eat something?
Have a conversation while drinking?
Cooked two things on the stove at the same time?

If so, you should be able to understand why a lot of us value the ability to do two things at the same time. Making arguments like "I've never received an email while I'm on the phone," (sorry if the way my office operates seems alien to you) "my dad taught me that it's impolite to talk and do something else while on the phone, or "you can do whatever you want, just hang up the call" don't really cut it as valid reasons why the rest of us shouldn't care about this ability. Again, if you want to take twice as long to get things done, that's your prerogative, but some of like doing two things at once. Crazy, I know.

 

[Wide opeN]

Ok, not like to argue with you or anything

BUT

1xRTT is NOT 3G voice. It's still the same tech VZW has been using since the switch from analog.

They will finally have "3G Voice" once a LTE voice standard has been agreed upon. And even then it'll take awhile to implement.

Look for "3G Voice" on VZW by 2012 at the earliest!!!

 

[Wide opeN]

To add to my above post:

Yet another advantage for AT&T.

 

[sdpics]

Its a convenience I wouldn't want to lose....I don't need a mobile hotspot but for some that's critical....different strokes

 

[NKT]

Ok, not like to argue with you or anything

BUT

1xRTT is NOT 3G voice. It's still the same tech VZW has been using since the switch from analog.

They will finally have "3G Voice" once a LTE voice standard has been agreed upon. And even then it'll take awhile to implement.

Look for "3G Voice" on VZW by 2012 at the earliest!!!

Not to try and confuse anyone, but 1xRTT IS 3G as defined by the IMT-2000 standard.

2G was IS95 (cdmaOne), 3G is IMT-2000 (cdma2000). Verizon is using cdma2000 (3G) for their voice services. It has nothing to do with analog. The tech is not the same for 2G to 3G voice. There are physical hardware differences in the RAN (channel cards, etc.).

 

[LadyHoneyBabe]

Question

I don't have an iPhone (yet), but planning to get one on Verizon. My question is, will the iPhone allow a 3G phone call and a Wifi or MiFi connection so I could talk and surf the net or download apps at the same time?

 

[stewart715]

I don't have an iPhone (yet), but planning to get one on Verizon. My question is, will the iPhone allow a 3G phone call and a Wifi or MiFi connection so I could talk and surf the net or download apps at the same time?

Yes -- that is the point of this thread, that it's not that big of a deal because you CAN use WiFi and Voice at the same time. Besides, it's been reported that Verizon is working on a solution to allow Voice and Data simultaneously on 3G alone.