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No problem.

We will be 'beta' testing whatever is next when you finally get on board.

Early adopters

Cheers mate! :)

btw, I like Apple products from AirPods (absolutely love it, highly recommend it!!!), to Airport Xtreme to iPad Pro 12.9 to iPhone. I just really hate the notch (went to the Apple Store and my OCD went on overdrive!) and annoyed how Apple can rip us off with £1000!

My comments are fair.
 
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That doesn't get headlines. Keep that in mind.

Also, when people are unhappy or have a problem, where do they go? Online to complain instead of taking it in for exchange or repair.
Are you saying people shouldn't complain? Just go to the store, get it exchanged and never talk about it? What type of society are we living?
 
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I seldom read such a pile of nonsense. If someone chooses not to buy a beta product then it means he can't afford it? Many of us could well afford this product, but chose not to buy exactly because it was obvious it would have had a number of issues, and we said it before the release so this is not a surprise at all. There is a reason why it wasn't released in September, and it's that they didn't have it ready by then, so it's clear they had to rush at the end, and when you do things in a rush mistakes and error will surface over time. Next year most of these will be solved and people who chose to wait will be rewarded having a more refined product.

To me, your post looks like the gigantic pile of, well nonsense, to be nice. The OP clearly said that some may be CHOOSING not to buy it, not that everyone that is complaining cannot afford it.

As far as the rush, do you work for Apple? Do you know their process. These sites are built on crazy speculation, there's absolutely no hard evidence that Apple rushed anything. In fact, the November release date was probably there so they didn't rush. Apple has a thorough process and QA standards. They're also not going to jeopardize billions in returns and or recalls to rush a product out. They announced the phones and the dates only when everything was perfectly lined up with their process.

If it was so OBVIOUS that the iPhone X was going to have a NUMBER of issues, why don't you enlighten us all on what those other obvious issues are going to be. This green line seems to be a valid issue, though no one knows the true extent of it yet. So far, we have enough cases confirmed to equal about .0000667% of iPhone X's have a display problem. It could be a hardware or a software issue. It could be Apple's own fault, or it could be Samsung's. Heck it could even be Qualcomm or anyone else that builds a component for the phone as well.

The only thing I saw that might be accurate in your pile is that if you wait you MAY have a more refined product. Whether or not that is truly a reward is up to the individual. I love the waiters, they reward me with keeping resale values high so I can enjoy the latest products while they enjoy the refined aging of my old ones.
 
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Apple refurbished phones are crap. I paid $299 for an out-of-warranty swap on an iPhone 6. The touch screen stopped working the first week. I got a new 90-day warranty on its replacement, and that screen stopped working too. The 3rd one is still working, but I suspect at that point they just give you a new phone instead of a refurb.

Sorry you've had such bad luck. I've never had a failure on a refurbished Apple product and have received 3-4 as replacements and even bought some outright. When the iPhone 5 or 5S had the battery/shutdown issues, we had 3 replaced with refurbs, they all worked perfectly. Several friends have had the same experience. Many consider their refurbs better than new because they have a whole new shell and battery (phones and tablets anyway) and have extensive QA testing.
 
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I have 64GB Silver Edition, so far nothing happen to my OLED screen.
I use my X phone regularly, during the day will discharge battery to 40% / 30%
For charging I use Iphone charger, usb port from my mac pro, and nothing happen.

If problem was a manufacturing defect, many more users would report this problem.
So far is less than 100 ?

Simply, a small percentage of all produced displays have passed the tests, but have some drawback.
 
Yawn.... 25? Growing problem? Let me know when it reaches more than .1%.
If you assume (conservatively) that there are only 2 million phones.
Then (25/2x10^6)x100 = .00125%. That number isn't even statistically relevant.
 
Since I've noticed at least a few comments over the fear of a refurbished replacement for a broken iPhone X, if you ponder it does it really even seem possible? Do you think they've really had time to ship enough phones to their refurbishment center, rework a batch up and ship them to stores for replacements?

Would it be more likely that their factories packaged a few thousand into plain white boxes for replacement units. When I've dealt with the stores, they call them replacement phones, not refurbished. I've asked if they are refurbished and the employees say they could be or they could be brand new. My guess is that it will be at least a couple months before your replacement phone has much chance of being a refurbished phone.
 
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It was the definition of haughty and irrelevant because everyone will get a working device.

Do I care what you think? Not necessarily.
Wow, who's haughty now? :p (Hint: still not him.)

Your defensiveness suggests that you struggle with what comes along with this being an internet forum—namely, opinions that don't match your own. Sorry buddy!

Back to the original point, it's pretty reasonable for someone to have been happy with their decision not to be an early adopter. It's puzzling how someone could imply that's a bad thing.

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In that case I have to wonder if the issue is Apple or the customer. Especially considering they have one of the highest consumer satisfaction ratings in the industry.
Wow—the backward logic here is off the charts!

The notion that aggregate satisfaction numbers tell much, if anything, about an individual's experience is, well, wrong. In statistics and logic, this is what's known as an ecological fallacy.

It's cool if you love Apple products. Totally. Implying that for someone who has had bad experience, the problem is them—yeah, that's not cool. That's actually pretty messed up.
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Yawn.... 25? Growing problem? Let me know when it reaches more than .1%.
If you assume (conservatively) that there are only 2 million phones.
Then (25/2x10^6)x100 = .00125%. That number isn't even statistically relevant.
If we want to talk about statistical relevance, then this math doesn't fly.

25 is someone's guess as to the number of publicly posted "me too"s. In other words, it suffers from selection bias. It's not any sort of indication as to how widespread the problem actually is.
 
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Wow—the backward logic here is off the charts!

The notion that aggregate satisfaction numbers tell much, if anything, about an individual's experience is, well, wrong. In statistics and logic, this is what's known as an ecological fallacy.

It's cool if you love Apple products. Totally. Implying that for someone who has had bad experience, the problem is them—yeah, that's not cool. That's actually pretty messed up.

About as messed up as trying to discount someone’s opinion because they “love Apple”. Or imply that an individuals arguments are born out of that blind love and not because they have any substance.
 
That doesn't get headlines. Keep that in mind.

Also, when people are unhappy or have a problem, where do they go? Online to complain instead of taking it in for exchange or repair.
I agree. I mean the cold thing was fully owned by apple but no one cares cause apple owned it. Apple has taken these phones back and replaced them on the spot with zero issue. When I see these sort of things. I have to ask how many iPhone 7's were DOA or had bad screens with dead pixels or just were not right. The answer is going to always be higher than 0. Then I go how many iPhone 7 had bulging battery the answer is not 0 yet we do not make a mountain out of it. When the 6s had battery issues and apple refused to own it that is when we need the internet outage machine. When apple won't own there mess and try to pass it off to the customer we need a strong voice and firm response. Getting bent out of shape for 20 or even 200 phones or even gulp 2000 phones is not worth our time so long as apple owns it and makes it right. When they stop doing that. I suggest we get the pitch forks out and I will be the first to spear head the internet rage charge. These false starts give numb us to the real issues when they creep up.
 
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