Yes, with an increase in price that would cause a whinefest of epic proportions.
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Shooting 4K ProRes Video Requires iPhone 13 Pro With at Least 256GB Storage
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Yes, with an increase in price that would cause a whinefest of epic proportions.
A common sense suggestion that will be met with derision, wailing and gnashing of teeth on this forum. Be prepared.
Has anyone considered that it is possible that models with 256 gb and up have more memory to allow ProRes in 4K and 128 GB models don't have that. This might be a way for Apple to try to keep the same starting price of the iPhones as last year. We already know that Pro models have 5 core GPU vs 4 core on non Pro eventhough they got the same technically CPU - A15. If that is the case than I am glad that Apple did it this way. The 5 people that new ProRes should be able to afford higher tier storage while the rest of the population who don't give crap about ProRes can enjoy the same starting price. The complains are unreasonable about this, it is like someone buying $100k car and complaining that now they need to put premium gas that cost a buck more per gallon. If 4K ProRes is so important, just get the upgraded storage and be done with it.
Of the 500 people I know with iPhones. Not one uses it for film making. Small sample size but I would be adamant that the stat would be extremely low on that one.
It’s really not common sense if you are agreeable that people generally using their iPhones for film making. I can’t believe I had to say that out loud. This is very few people. Maybe the guys in the commercial. And bald people.
I don't think we know that yet. Anxiously waiting to hear official info.
I thought I had seen somewhere that the reason they’re sticking to Lightning was the IP rating. The usb-c isn’t as sealed as their lightning connection is what I remember.
That being said, every android manufacturer has been using usb-c for years and they’ve had similar, if not the same, performance in water. I think the consensus on Made for iPhone royalties is probably the real reason.
Poppycock. The 8GB iPhone 4 could shoot HD Video.
Yes, the first (or first and second, I forget which) iPad Pros that still had Lightning ports had USB 3.0 Lightning ports. As far as I am aware, those are the only devices ever made that support USB 3.0 over Lightning.
Even more so when trying to upload to icloud when this does not allow for large transfers at once. And then how long does it take to see it on my ATV4K..
If it is a throughput issue then the 256GB and above models have enough NAND chips to accommodate ProRes and the 128GB does not have the requisite throughput needed.
Bottom line, if you are actually serious about ProRes then buying the larger sized iPhone is not a big deal. All this wailing and gnashing of teeth is from people here who are never going to use the feature anyways, especially if they can only afford the 128GB. Simply use HEVC.
Not ridiculous. They're well-priced as evidenced by the millions of repeat Apple customers opening their wallets and purchasing the almost 600,000 iPhones (on the average) manufactured every day of the year.
Simply pay for the storage that you need.
Knowing Apple, it will be standard within the next 5 years, for the high end phones at least. Sadly
That’s what the regular 13 non Pro phones are for. The Pro models should have started at 256 GB. It’s weird to have a feature that can’t be used at the supplied storage level.
Valid question. Hopefully the better 5G helps offset this...
I'm also expecting to not be able to shoot in Cinematic Mode while shooting in ProRes... but hopefully I'm wrong about that.
I want them to talk more in depth about the "gotchas" with ProRes before I pre-order- if ProRes is easy to use and transfer, and allows use of all modes (including cinematic) I would likely shoot with ProRes more (I am a videographer so this would be perfect). But if I can only shoot ProRes in certain modes and conditions I may not use it AS much.
They are big.....especially depending on the bit rate it's recording at. We have been switching over to ProRes at work from Avid DnxHD
It does. You enable it in settings even on the 12 Pro. When manufacturers say 30p in camera specs they are almost always referencing the max FPS possible.
Are you pointing out logical discrepancies??? Your lack of faith is disturbing the Force...
"humor" aside I do recall that lighting->USB-C does support higher speeds... but 3.0, not 3.1 Gen 1 or 2.
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I'm sure most people here is aware of that, but it's about the principle. This is the first time Apple put software limitation on the same model due to a storage difference. Considering the price point and "Pro" intention, it seems shortsighted.
Apple leaving Pro users hanging with no USB-C transfer rates and no 256 GB base storage for the Pro model to use the Prores fully. No improved Airdrop to compensate. Very disappointing. But they wanted to claim no price increase. Hopefully this gets cleaned up for iPhone 14.
There should be an option to force it to store videos outside of your photo library so it doesn't fill it up.
That is completely wrong. There are so many variations of 4K ranging from toy 4K to crazy 4K at TB's per minute based on the bitrate recorded at. Even staying in ProRes there is everything from ProRes Proxy at 35 Mbits/s to ProRes 4444XQ at 3318 Mbits/s all based on 3840x2160 (UHD) and 3539 Mbits/s 4096 × 2160 (DCI 4K)
Completely true. Important media backed up on 2 RAID 10 (1+0) stored in 2 different places. You would need to edit on ProRes Proxy (145 GB/hr) then up convert or batch digitize the finished EDL at the higher rate. At work we use HP Z8 workstations (build cost $26K) and MacPro (build cost in 2012 $13k, new ones just ordered $21K) going to a media server via 10GB/s optical fiber
That sounds like the same argument that everybody was flipping out for the new MacPro......
everybody: we want a new pro machine
Apple: okay, here...a pro machine...competes with the HP Z8 Workstation
everybody: that's too expensive...are you crazy? This thing is not for making money
Apple: then you're not really a "pro"
ProRes is not a raw video format, its an uncompressed format that gives you more options in post production. As I said, I'm a film producer, and we've used past generation iPhones in a pinch. Prores on a phone is actually a big deal.