Siri Hacked to Run on an iPod Touch and iPhone 4

[nerdo]

Well there are two ways of looking at this Siri thing:

Some evil conspiracy because Apple wanted people to buy the 4S instead of the other phones they still sell. Or the way every Apple product seems to be developed: get the best user experience out of the product. Perhaps Apple did not get the right hardware combo in the other products to produce audio clean enough for the system to analyze without any mistakes at all.

Leaving you with two options:
You can keep thinking Apple is evil now it is out of the underdog position and they try to do anything they can to screw the customer. Or get on with it and just buy what you like and leave others to do the same.

No platform will ever be "the best" because they simply put they ALL fish in the same pool. Whatever works will be copied. Right now I like my iPhone 4 it is what the iPhone3 should have been, just as Lion finally is what OSX should have been 10 years ago. Nobody really makes revolutionary tech, it is all just a continuation of what exists.

A real revolution would be a holographic screen you can manipulate and works with thought commands, all this smart phone crap is just the same rubbish PDA idea from 20 years ago only now it does what we thought they would do 15 years ago. The biggest disappointment has always been the fact that what Apple claims it is making is years away from what you can actually buy in the shops. There is nothing Magical about any of, it is just pretty damn good, but nothing more then what it should be. My Amiga 500, now that was magical

 

[Stella]

I hope Apple don't pull a stunt like this when they finally release their own Navigation / Turn by Turn application!

"Sorry, iPhone 5 only".

 

[ECUpirate44]

Once it's released, there is going to even less incentive for people to upgrade to the 4s. I can't freaking wait.

 

[chuckles:)]

Any possibility of getting it running on the 3GS?

 

[alent1234]

Once it's released, there is going to even less incentive for people to upgrade to the 4s. I can't freaking wait.

it's not getting released because apple will be able to sue them. they had to use files from the 4S version of iOS

 

[Jupiter-One]

One less reason for people with iPhone 4's to upgrade to the iPhone 4S. I guess its true, Siri was just used to market the iPhone 4S. So typical of Apple.

Oh, come on, there could be various reasons for Siri's iPhone 4S exclusivity

 

[Judas1]

Why is it? Everyone's compatible iPhone got new features with iOS5, I really don't understand why people moan when they get new features for free, that the big feature is left behind. So what you got free stuff!

You didn't get it for free. You paid for it when you bought the phone in the first place. It was built into the cost of the phone. I remember seeing an article here that said that the components cost for the iphone is less than $200. Where did the extra cost come from? At the very least, they should update the OS, and not purposely disable a particular feature.

 

[r.j.s]

You didn't get it for free. You paid for it when you bought the phone in the first place. It was built into the cost of the phone. I remember seeing an article here that said that the components cost for the iphone is less than $200. Where did the extra cost come from? At the very least, they should update the OS, and not purposely disable a particular feature.

Since when is siri a part of iOS?

Last time I checked, it is labeled as a feature of the 4S, not iOS 5.

 

[applekid]

Let's hope the "beta" part of Siri also means it will eventually come to other iOS devices while the iPhone 4S users get the honor of being beta testers

I think all of this hacking is a good thing. It will either cause of a lawsuit or force Apple's hand in making Siri more widely available (without the lawsuit ).

That all said, I foresee Apple eventually releasing an SDK for developers to give voice commands in their apps, and I can't imagine that working smoothly without a dual core device. Hence, Siri actually requiring a 4S (or iPad 2), in my view, eventually will be a real requirement.

 

[Rocknation]

I have tried to port siri on my iPhone 4,
but only GUI mode for now.
possible release soon???

 

[Ulf1103]

Ooh darn,I wanted to have it on my iPhone 3GS

 

[Fairchild]

Patiently waiting for iPhone 5. It will be the game changer

 

[r.j.s]

possible release soon???

No, for both technical and legal reasons.

 

[Taz Mangus]

thank you for failing to read and understand the editorial I link you to explain why the chart was crap and is a bad chart.

I ask you to read and understand the editorial before you got back to me.

Is this the way you treat people when you have a face-to-face conversation with them?

 

[thenerdal]

Since when is siri a part of iOS?

Last time I checked, it is labeled as a feature of the 4S, not iOS 5.

It's a part of iOS 5 exlusive to only the 4S at the moment.

 

[Judas1]

Since when is siri a part of iOS?

Last time I checked, it is labeled as a feature of the 4S, not iOS 5.

It was arbitrarily made just a feature of the 4s. Thats what this article proved and thats why many of us are pissed. If Siri is an intregral part of the ios expierence and not just a fun toy, it should not be disabled on the 4, just to make the 4s look better. That means Apple intentionally gave 4 users a poorer ios experience. People buy Apple for the ios ecosystem.

 

[D.T.]

From what I've read (from a forum user), there's a local list on the 4S that Siri checks against and then sends it off to the server if she doesn't find a match. Once I can see it answering more complex questions I'll believe it. Until then, I'm not convinced.

I'd love to see the code/architecture details of server vs. client processing, and if/when the client starts warehousing more analytic data, etc.

Did Apple ever explicitly say that Siri "won't work" on any other iOS device except an iPhone 4S? I don't recall such a claim.

Yeah, I believe the language is very non-specific. Also see below...

Well there are two ways of looking at this Siri thing:

Some evil conspiracy because Apple wanted people to buy the 4S instead of the other phones they still sell. Or the way every Apple product seems to be developed: get the best user experience out of the product. Perhaps Apple did not get the right hardware combo in the other products to produce audio clean enough for the system to analyze without any mistakes at all.

...continued from above.

While the folks that hacked Siri - which BTW, was probably modifying the message headers to "spoof" the device ID - said it "runs just as fast", there may be intended design/architecture changes, that could force more client side processing, making the experience less optimal (i.e., under Apple's design target).

It also won't be a surprise to Apple that someone was able to run Siri on an iOS device other than a 4S. The iOS hacking community are some very bright folks, but it would be a modest effort for Apple developers to determine the effort/complexity/possibility of porting it, since Apple is _well_ aware of the non-OEM development taking place.

I'm due for an update to a 4S anyway, so I guess I won't have to sweat it

 

[JohnDoe98]

Not so, Woz, Jobs and Wayne founded Apple to sell the Apple 1.

Which Woz was giving away to people for free and got Jobs all worked up. He convinced Woz they could make tons of money and consequently Woz should stop giving them out... So yeah, Jobs was always in it for the money from the start. The only good thing is he had "some" quality standards that were above his competitors.

 

[KPOM]

Again, if someone bought an iPhone 4 in the past year can't buy an iPhone 4s anyway, due to the higher pricing. So, all the marketing in the world wouldn't cause that sale to occur. Thats probably why iPhone 4 users are a little anxious to get Siri...they can't have the 4s yet.

But its a slippery slope. In a matter of short months, 4 users can get 4s. If they dont because they already have Siri on 4, then the marketing fails, too.

By then the iPhone 5 will be near (for real). I'm guessing it will have Siri, and LTE, and perhaps a larger, higher resolution screen or turn-by-turn navigation. Then we'll have "angry" 4S owners complaining.

 

[ECUpirate44]

it's not getting released because apple will be able to sue them. they had to use files from the 4S version of iOS

Well that sucks.

 

[ADMProducer]

Which Woz was giving away to people for free and got Jobs all worked up. He convinced Woz they could make tons of money and consequently Woz should stop giving them out... So yeah, Jobs was always in it for the money from the start. The only good thing is he had "some" quality standards that were above his competitors.

You can't honestly blame a man in wanting to make money from hard work.

Oh wait, let me pay my bills with love.

 

[r.j.s]

It was arbitrarily made just a feature of the 4s. Thats what this article proved and thats why many of us are pissed.

Arbitrary huh? You know Apple's reasoning for sure?

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The fact remains that it requires something from the 4S to make it work. It won't be available unless that requirement is fixed.

 

[JohnDoe98]

You can't honestly blame a man in wanting to make money from hard work.

Oh wait, let me pay my bills with love.

Blame? I didn't lay any blame on Jobs. But, since you mention it, yes we can blame people for wanting more than they need.

 

[Judas1]

Arbitrary huh? You know Apple's reasoning for sure?

There's been a bunch of theory on why Siri is only on the 4s. Hardware limitation has been debunked. Server limitation is BS. Apple is sitting on over 60B dollars, and they can't scale up the servers? The best explanation is that Apple wanted more money and purposely gimped the 4. Yes, it was arbitrary, having nothing to do with Apple's limitation or the ip4's limitation.

 

[Widashy]

By then the iPhone 5 will be near (for real). I'm guessing it will have Siri, and LTE, and perhaps a larger, higher resolution screen or turn-by-turn navigation. Then we'll have "angry" 4S owners complaining.

Next iPhone is not coming before Oct 2012 but 4S would be jailbreak-ed in a month or two with Siri coming along. Can't wait to use it on my 4.