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Siri Hacked to Run on an iPod Touch and iPhone 4
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The entitled American
It isn't free. It costs apple lots money to invest, research and design. They have a right to keep this in a new device as an incentive for people to upgrade. One shouldn't feel entitled just because Apple decides to issue an OS update to their previous models. And, siri in a lot of ways is magical. Completely changed the way I organize my life's activities. Perspective people.
It isn't free. It costs apple lots money to invest, research and design. They have a right to keep this in a new device as an incentive for people to upgrade. One shouldn't feel entitled just because Apple decides to issue an OS update to their previous models. And, siri in a lot of ways is magical. Completely changed the way I organize my life's activities. Perspective people.
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I would guess that there's no Siri on the iPhone 4 because Siri is still in beta and that future iterations will require more horsepower than the A4 can provide. Apple could have released it for the 4, but is planning ahead to when the feature will genuinely require the A5, and doesn't want to be restricted in its development of the feature by the A4 chip.
I agree w/Mr. Pants.
What't the point of this "hack" if we'll never be able to use it? It's just another triumph by some propellor-head who gets to say he did it.
Big deal.
No thats BS.
hardware you run into hardware problem. For example, if the electric wiring in your car was never adaprted to fit a skyroof in the car, its impossible. Cars are designed around such demands, its not added on later .
Software is in essence limitless. As long as you dont need new hardware the only restrictions that cuunt are pure economical. More profit, less costs,... Its an apples and oranges comparison.
I don't get why sites bother reporting this.
Good news everyone! Here's a hack... that you can't have.
Good news everyone! Here's a hack... that you can't have.
IMHO Siri is the worst excuse for a "benefit-rich" feature of the iPhone 4S i've ever seen come out of Apple. It is worthless. If you _really_ need something like this to send a text message, do a Google search, tell you who your wife is, then you need to go outside and experience the real world.
What a waste of time. Dragon Dictation, Google Search with Voice On together do 95% of what Siri does, just as fast and just as accurately.
What a waste of time. Dragon Dictation, Google Search with Voice On together do 95% of what Siri does, just as fast and just as accurately.
Have you actually used siri?
With any of those other apps, can I say, "Tell my boss I'll be right there." and they send a text that says, "I'll be right there." to my boss?
Or how about reminders and your calendar?
I experience the real world every day, and siri has made working with phone easier, so I can get back to real world without spending a lot of time typing stuff into my phone.
I love that it takes till post #269 to tie Siri's Growth over the next year, and it is a Beta.
Anyone who know anything about Siri will tell you a year or two from now it will be world changing. Today it's an infant in diapers. Currently there are 4.5 million 4S' adding at least 3-5 items to the AI daily.
In 2 years you'll need an A6. For your Stanford Grad Personal Asst.
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The more I learn about Siri, the more I'm disappointed in Apples 4S exclusivity. Since all the processing is done on the server side, why not bless all iOS5 devices? Siri was one of the biggest draws for me jumping from 4 to 4S...I really hope Apple fixes the battery issue, cause its effecting my experience far more than antennagate ever did. Sad
The more I learn about Siri, the more I'm disappointed in Apples 4S exclusivity. Since all the processing is done on the server side, why not bless all iOS5 devices? Siri was one of the biggest draws for me jumping from 4 to 4S...I really hope Apple fixes the battery issue, cause its effecting my experience far more than antennagate ever did. Sad
Neat to see someone figure this out, however even if another person figured it out and released it, Apple is so good at protecting their property.. I'm sure the servers would continuously be updated to block out non-legitimate devices.
For purchase?
What about a paid app to upgrade older iOS models? I'd be willing to pay $10, $20, $30 bucks to get this to work on my iPhone 4 and iPad without having to buy the 4S. Just a thought
What about a paid app to upgrade older iOS models? I'd be willing to pay $10, $20, $30 bucks to get this to work on my iPhone 4 and iPad without having to buy the 4S. Just a thought
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That might be true but he's correct to his point that it's irrelevant. This is a product thing, the technical part doesn't matter like you think it does. As far as a product goes, Apple doesn't have to give anything away for an old product when it wasn't ever represented as having it, regardless of the technical capability of running it.
Software development costs money, just like hardware production does. Apple has no need to give away software to enable your iPhone 4 to use Siri just as, for example, Subaru wouldn't need to give you snow tires for your older model car just because the new one comes with them, but is otherwise the same car.
Just because the software could work does NOT mean it should be free. In the case of the phone or the car, you're able to go add the functionality yourself if you have the ability, or you can go buy the new product. You shouldn't be expecting handouts. That's not reasonable. The product you bought does at least everything it was sold with originally.
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That might be true but he's correct to his point that it's irrelevant. This is a product thing, the technical part doesn't matter like you think it does. As far as a product goes, Apple doesn't have to give anything away for an old product when it wasn't ever represented as having it, regardless of the technical capability of running it.
Software development costs money, just like hardware production does. Apple has no need to give away software to enable your iPhone 4 to use Siri just as, for example, Subaru wouldn't need to give you snow tires for your older model car just because the new one comes with them, but is otherwise the same car.
Just because the software could work does NOT mean it should be free. In the case of the phone or the car, you're able to go add the functionality yourself if you have the ability, or you can go buy the new product. You shouldn't be expecting handouts. That's not reasonable. The product you bought does at least everything it was sold with originally.
Just going to point out Apple does not put the full value of every iPhone sold on their books. They with hold a certain chunk of them for accounting for future upgrades so yes part of the price you pay for your iPhone is to get upgrades.
I am willing to bet they will and the Apple apologist will come out in force. Just look at their argument fall appart. First it was because of hardware (something a lot of us question) and now that argument has failed them so they are throwing on the "beta" argument which lets face it is pure BS. I would buy it if with in 3 months they allowed all iOS5 devices use siri.
It is pure BS. They refuse to see the real reason for Siri being iPhone 4S only and that is because Apple needed an excuse to call it a real upgrade and people to go buy it. Remove Siri and the reason to get the 4S from a iPhone 4 falls apart pretty quickly.
That argument works if Siri is just a big toy. But if Siri is integral to the new ios experience, then Apple basically told everybody without the 4s to go f themselves. Apple is about offering the Apple experience, software and hardware integeration. So now they say since you're not contributing more money by buying their latest phone, you're not gonna get the full experience. Is that fair to people who have supported them for years?
It's quite amusing to read comments from people about how Apple should run their business, when it's apparent that they have no idea about what's involved in running a successful business. Or how they should do this or that from a technology perspective, when they clearly have no clue about hardware or software implementation issues.
Apple is a phenomenally successful organization, due to both business practices and technology offerings. If they introduce new product "B", they have no obligation to make "B" capabilities available to individuals who previously purchased product "A". They may choose to do so, either immediately or at a future date, but it is their decision alone. Wild ass uninformed speculation as to why they did or didn't is just that.
If you don't like their decision, then speak with your wallet and don't buy any more of their products. That's the way it works. But to bitch and moan about how evil or greedy they are is absurd, and it just reveals your own inflated sense of self importance.
I currently own an iPhone 4 (along with a 3G, an iPad, an iPad2, an iMac and a MacBook Pro). I will most likely go out soon and get a 4S, so that I can play with the new capabilities. In the interim, I will not complain about not having Siri capability, simply because I have not yet made the choice to purchase the new phone. My decision. My choice.
Grow up people. Stop pontificating on subject matter for which you have no basis for issuing pronouncements.
Are you an Apple consumer, because you don't sound like it. As a consumer, I have the right to and the obligation to criticize their policies. I don't work for them, don't get paid by them, and contribute to their success, so why can't I have a voice?
I doubt they were targeting the iPhone 4 customer with the 4S. If they were, they would have called it the 5 and had more radical changes. They are targeting the 3GS buyer coming off contract, or the person who has an Android, BlackBerry, or feature phone ready for something different.
When you get right down to it, what "new" does the Galaxy Nexus offer that the Galaxy S II doesn't, particular once the latter gets the Android 4.0 update? What does it really offer the Nexus S owner, again once that latter phone gets Android 4.0? A faster processor, similar camera, and slightly bigger screen. Is that worth $700 to someone under contract with a Nexus S? I don't think that Samsung is targeting Nexus S owners with the Galaxy Nexus. They are targeting iPhone, original Droid, and BlackBerry owners.
Here I was kind enough to translate CalWizrd post to what it really is saying.
CalWizrd I choose your post because it was close and sums up the appoligist aditude pretty well.