Siri Hacked to Run on an iPod Touch and iPhone 4

[Steve's Barber]

They refuse to see the real reason for Siri being iPhone 4S only and that is because Apple needed an excuse to call it a real upgrade and people to go buy it.

You mean a company added exclusive value to a product to make people buy it?

Wow. What an insight.

 

[Ihatefall]

Beta

I am not going to pretend that "I know the answer" but given the historical evidence, every other Apple beta has been free for older devices (ie FaceTime beta on an older mac was free, final version was 99 cents.)

So shouldn't the Beta of Siri be free is they intend to offer for older devices?

It will mostly likely just be feature JB can enable.

 

[KPOM]

Are you an Apple consumer, because you don't sound like it. As a consumer, I have the right to and the obligation to criticize their policies. I don't work for them, don't get paid by them, and contribute to their success, so why can't I have a voice?

You can have your opinion, but in the end, it's Apple who produces the product and you who makes the decision as to whether or not to buy what they are selling.

 

[r.j.s]

It will mostly likely just be feature JB can enable.

Did you read the article? Or the thread? It won't be something you can just enable. If it is released, you might be able to get it, but not through Cydia.

 

[nylonsteel]

re original article

not surprised it be hacked

- but so soon

 

[Judas1]

You can have your opinion, but in the end, it's Apple who produces the product and you who makes the decision as to whether or not to buy what they are selling.

A bunch of voices in unison can be heard. Thats all I'm doing, contributing my voice. Some people don't understand that they have that voice.

 

[jmpnop]

So, releasing a product with a feature exclusive to that product is purposely gimping a previous product? Come on. Technology moves on and old stuff doesn't get new features. It doesn't matter what the reason is.

Yeah right, when you stop thinking it doesn't matter. When all the processing is done on Apple's servers, there's ABSOLUTELY no reason to leave iPhone 4 out. Even otherwise I'm quite sure its hardware is capable of running Siri. Cmon, stop being an Apple worshipper.

 

[CalWizrd]

Here I was kind enough to translate CalWizrd post to what it really is saying.

CalWizrd I choose your post because it was close and sums up the appoligist aditude pretty well.

I am not an apologist by any stretch. I guess I just have a little more experience in the real world.

You (the generic you, rather than the individual you) buy a product, presumably, because you have decided that the expenditure is justified by the return. Does the introduction of the 4S make a prior purchase (4, 3GS, etc) somehow less justifiable? Are the features/capabilities of a pre-4S iPhone somehow diminished because Apple didn't make new features available (which isn't even the case, as plenty of new iOS5 features are available)?

Grow up.

 

[tomatrus]

Right right

It's quite amusing to read comments from people about how Apple should run their business, when it's apparent that they have no idea about what's involved in running a successful business. Or how they should do this or that from a technology perspective, when they clearly have no clue about hardware or software implementation issues.

Apple is a phenomenally successful organization, due to both business practices and technology offerings. If they introduce new product "B", they have no obligation to make "B" capabilities available to individuals who previously purchased product "A". They may choose to do so, either immediately or at a future date, but it is their decision alone. Wild ass uninformed speculation as to why they did or didn't is just that.

If you don't like their decision, then speak with your wallet and don't buy any more of their products. That's the way it works. But to bitch and moan about how evil or greedy they are is absurd, and it just reveals your own inflated sense of self importance.

I currently own an iPhone 4 (along with a 3G, an iPad, an iPad2, an iMac and a MacBook Pro). I will most likely go out soon and get a 4S, so that I can play with the new capabilities. In the interim, I will not complain about not having Siri capability, simply because I have not yet made the choice to purchase the new phone. My decision. My choice.

Grow up people. Stop pontificating on subject matter for which you have no basis for issuing pronouncements.

Love this post, CalWizrd. You are dead right. People can complain all they want (and they're free to do so), but Apple is under no obligation to please everyone.

 

[r.j.s]

Yeah right, when you stop thinking it doesn't matter. When all the processing is done on Apple's servers, there's ABSOLUTELY no reason to leave iPhone 4 out. Even otherwise I'm quite sure its hardware is capable of running Siri. Cmon, stop being an Apple worshipper.

It doesn't matter if the hardware is capable. Apple decided that iPhone 4S owners are the only ones to get Siri. If you feel slighted that your old phone doesn't get the feature of a new phone, then oh well, you are allowed to feel that way. You don't get to demand that Apple gives you what you want. Apple doesn't care. The did what they did for a reason, whatever that may be, and it is probably in the best interest of their shareholders - because that is what they are legally obligated to do.

 

[Judas1]

I am not an apologist by any stretch. I guess I just have a little more experience in the real world.

You (the generic you, rather than the individual you) buy a product, presumably, because you have decided that the expenditure is justified by the return. Does the introduction of the 4S make a prior purchase (4, 3GS, etc) somehow less justifiable? Are the features/capabilities of a pre-4S iPhone somehow diminished because Apple didn't make new features available (which isn't even the case, as plenty of new iOS5 features are available)?

Grow up.

The question is whether Siri is an integral part of the ios experience. If it is, and the 4 can support it, theres no reason to exclude it. Think of it this way. If the 4 came out with facetime, and didn't offer it to the 3gs, even though the 3gs had the cameras, and specs for it, what would you think? Could you excuse it as just a feature of the 4?

 

[r.j.s]

The question is whether Siri is an integral part of the ios experience. If it is, and the 4 can support it, theres no reason to exclude it. Think of it this way. If the 4 came out with facetime, and didn't offer it to the 3gs, even though the 3gs had the cameras, and specs for it, what would you think? Could you excuse it as just a feature of the 4?

But is it integral to iOS? The fact that it is only available on 4S says no; it is a feature of the 4S, not iOS.

 

[Judas1]

But is it integral to iOS? The fact that it is only available on 4S says no; it is a feature of the 4S, not iOS.

Then whats the the point of having it? The only ads I see are the ones featuring Siri.

 

[CalWizrd]

The question is whether Siri is an integral part of the ios experience. If it is, and the 4 can support it, theres no reason to exclude it. Think of it this way. If the 4 came out with facetime, and didn't offer it to the 3gs, even though the 3gs had the cameras, and specs for it, what would you think? Could you excuse it as just a feature of the 4?

You just don't get it, do you?

It is not my prerogative to "excuse" it. Apple sells products. I choose whether or not to buy one of them. If I buy a product, and subsequently Apple releases a new product with a feature I would like to have and the product I own doesn't offer it, then I make a rational decision whether or not to buy the new product. I don't go "Waaaa, they should have given me that feature too".

Read my lips... IT IS APPLE'S DECISION. IF YOU'RE UNHAPPY WITH IT, DON'T BUY ANY MORE OF THEIR PRODUCTS.

 

[Judas1]

You just don't get it, do you?

It is not my prerogative to "excuse" it. Apple sells products. I choose whether or not to buy one of them. If I buy a product, and subsequently Apple releases a new product with a feature I would like to have and the product I own doesn't offer it, then I make a rational decision whether or not to buy the new product. I don't go "Waaaa, they should have given me that feature too".

Read my lips... IT IS APPLE'S DECISION. IF YOU'RE UNHAPPY WITH IT, DON'T BUY ANY MORE OF THEIR PRODUCTS.

I don't mean to demean but thats the type of thinking of a sheep. I'm not gonna criticize them. I'll express myself with my pocketbook. But I'm always gonna buy their latest product.

 

[r.j.s]

Then whats the the point of having it? The only ads I see are the ones featuring Siri.

Are the ads for the iPhone 4S or iOS?

The only ad I've seen featuring siri has been for the 4S - and it said iPhone 4S - not just iPhone.

 

[Judas1]

Are the ads for the iPhone 4S or iOS?

The only ad I've seen featuring siri has been for the 4S - and it said iPhone 4S - not just iPhone.

Are you new to Apple? Aren't they all about software and hardware integrated together? How can you talk about the 4s without ios5?

 

[r.j.s]

Are you new to Apple? Aren't they all about software and hardware integrated together? How can you talk about the 4s without ios5 and without Siri?

You're not making sense. The iPhone 4S is the hardware and software integrated together. That doesn't mean siri is an integral part of iOS.

 

[Ubuntu]

So, releasing a product with a feature exclusive to that product is purposely gimping a previous product? Come on. Technology moves on and old stuff doesn't get new features. It doesn't matter what the reason is.

Well obviously, but the issue is more about which products are included in that "old" category. Imagine when OS X Lion was released and Apple said that certain key features would not be available on the previous models of the current macs, just the latest models. That'd be totally wrong.

But I'm not expecting Apple to release Siri to iPhone 4 users, at least for free. We paid for our delightful phones for how they were at the time of sale as well as updates. They've never had to throw in new features for free but it'd be nice if they actually just sold it separately, for those who want it. I think iPhone 4 users expecting Siri for free is even more ridiculous than Apple not providing it for sale.

 

[Judas1]

You're not making sense. The iPhone 4S is the hardware and software integrated together. That doesn't mean siri is an integral part of iOS.

The iphone has never been limited to just one OS version. There are currently 3gs's with ios5. Later the 4s will update to ios 6. It will still be the 4s.

 

[hugo7]

Oh the whining and then... more whining

I've had an iPhone 4 for 16 months… I love it (and have yet to upgrade to ios5).

I've played with Siri, and it's definitely game changing. Other mobile platforms will most certainly follow suit.

If I had Siri on my phone, that would be cool. Do I need it? No. My iPhone 4 is still fully functional without it… and that's 16 solid months of usefulness. It's been a fantastic mobile experience, and I would argue that a bigger issue for the device would be improving the sucky carrier service (I'm on AT&T) before even Siri.

But the entitlement whining in this thread is pathetic, and the explanations are pointless.

"Apple has a profit agenda in artificially restricting Siri to iPhone 4S"
- No sh** Sherlock! By the way, does you iPhone 4 still work?

"Apple is waiting to scale up the Siri servers before accommodating some pre-iPhone 4S devices"
- Okay fair enough. By the way, does your iPhone 4 still work?

It's as if some folk here bought their devices with the expectation of future feature upgrades beyond mere bug fixes. Huh?

Apple is not a charity, but a corporation with a profit bottom-line, no matter how much they butter up (or lube up ;-) ) their customers. If you're not aware of that (and still caught up in the "it's so magical" aura), then you've not been paying attention. And if you dislike their practices so much, don't buy their products. Vote with your wallet and go elsewhere (cue the "Apple apologist" insults).

Congrats to the guy who got Siri installed on iPhone 4 / iPod touch 4.

 

[r.j.s]

The 4s is the 4 with a spec bump. Nothing about the sofftware. Later the software will update to ios 6. It will still be the 4s.

Go to apple.com ... they are advertising the iPhone 4S with iOS 5 and introducing siri ... notice how it isn't iOS 5 with siri?

It a part of the phone as much as the front-facing camera was a part of the 4.

 

[Judas1]

Go to apple.com ... they are advertising the iPhone 4S with iOS 5 and introducing siri ... notice how it isn't iOS 5 with siri?

It a part of the phone as much as the front-facing camera was a part of the 4.

Apple is the producers/manufacturers. We are the consumers. When are you gonna get it?

 

[r.j.s]

Apple is the producers/manufacturers. We are the consumers. When are you gonna get it?

Get what? That I should attack Apple because you are unhappy with their decision to make siri a 4S-only feature? Not sure why you decide to just attack me when your argument falls apart.

 

[polak9pete]

to be fair, Apple could have thrown in at least dictation for iOS5 on iPhone 4 knowing there's so many 4 users already. From what I've read on these forums, everybody seems really happy about dictation but people are mixed about Siri saying it's super helpful making appointments and such but some others got bored within 2 days.

Bottom line I hope Apple throw in dictation for 4 users in the future and keep Siri for 4S people. I want that goddamn little microphone on my keyboard.

CMON APPLE DO IT