jdclifford
macrumors 65816
I sent my X back the next day for that very reason! I HATED the notch!
Sketchy Rumor Claims 'iPhone SE 2' Could Feature a Glass Back and Support Wireless Charging
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sracer
macrumors G4
That only makes sense if having a notch is preferable to not having a notch.
Mature people can learn some things from inference. Less experienced/mature people learn those same things from first-hand experience. Other things can only be learned from first-hand experience. This is not an insult, but an observation.
Tell a child not to put their hand on a lit stove. They may or may not listen... but if they don't listen, they'll get burned and know that for the future...based on their first-hand experience.
Not everyone needs to buy an iPhone X, and use it for weeks to determine whether or not the notch is an issue for them. Inference and experience with other devices can be used to determine whether or not the notch will be a problem.
Totally agree with this, although a redesign would be nice, 3D Touch would be much better then wireless charging! Because that’s an interface feature and the SE is the only device on sale by Apple that lacks it now.
Although my new iPhone 8 will turn up today, if Apple stick to the throttling I may switch down to the SE V2 especially if it gets a good camera upgrade with OIS!
Definitely interested to see what they make here..
I agree. The SE, for me, doesn’t need much to make me upgrade my current model, but a more colourful display would go a long way. Wireless charging and an improved camera (even just the iPhone 7 camera) would be ideal. 3D Touch would be nice.
If they upgrade the camera (almost certainly a given), I assume they’d have to upgrade the screen to wide colour so that you can view the wide colour-captured photos you’ve taken properly.
No it’s not successful, neither is the Apple Watch, in ‘Apple’ sales terms they are failures because they would announce Apple Watch sales figures on there own if it was successful.
The market expects a certain amount of sales and it is now downgrading those expectations on the X, it has not been a success, what do you expect when it’s so overpriced?
That’s it, no more discussions on the X in this thread from me. I’d rather talk about the SE2
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Shame. Had you given it more than 24 hours, you probably would have gotten used to it.
Supermacguy
macrumors 6502
I have an X - I don't "like" the notch but visually its not as distracting as I first thought. I still think it's a dumb design compromise, but not one that detracts greatly from its use. What DOES bother the sh** out of me is that FaceID is crappy and there is no Home button. I find FaceID is slow, and always requires me to "look" at the device, and always right side up. TouchID can be used in any direction, and I can have my phone unlocked BEFORE I get it up to my face from my pocket or where ever. That's the biggest problem with the X. And that it's so big and my fingers can't reach either the top or bottom edge to swipe for unlock or control center, without using 2 hands.
Supermacguy
macrumors 6502
If there's a SE 2 then I am all over that! I love the smaller size, i can use it 1 handed. It fits in my pocket. AS LONG AS IT HAS TOUCH ID! It can have FaceID **in addition** to TouchID if they want. I WANT the home button and Touch ID. And 4" screen.
Well the fact that you have to be looking within a certain distance and have to be facing fairly inline with the phone creates many instances where Face ID is more inconvenient. The phone can be on a stand, I could no longer quickly glance at the Notification screen as a I barely take it out of the pocket since it’s not within working range/orientation, quick checks while driving (not recommended), and so many more similar instances (yes, flat on the table being number 1 of such).
Honestly, I can only count a few times when I felt the inconvenience of having to unlock the phone in the winter with a glove, whereas there were a countless number of times for any of the situations I listed above.
Perhaps, if you live in an area where it’s cold all year Face ID maybe more convenient.
That’s not to disregard the clear advantages of Face ID, but people have to admit there is a clear disadvantage for more than just a negligible number of instances that people are legitimately concern with.
They will not waste a chance to sell more AirPowers. I don’t think wireless charging is a sketchy rumor at all. I also think the form factor will change to look a little more like the 8’s - so a more subtle, rounded edge.
Edge to edge display seems doubtful as does force touch (until iPad have force touch and they are no longe forced to program alternative ways to interact at least).
Edge to edge display seems doubtful as does force touch (until iPad have force touch and they are no longe forced to program alternative ways to interact at least).
LOL.... yeah, right. Apple is "upgrading" the current low-end 64GB SE to 32GB! Thanks for the "upgrade" Tim! /s
Only in phones. Funny how Apple seems to have this backwards.... Reducing the size of laptops and increasing the size of phones so that neither is as functional or utilitarian as it should be.
I tried the 6+ phablet and will never go back to that behemoth (for many reasons) and I detest thinning laptops to the point where the keyboards lack travel and durability and useful (USB-A) ports are omitted.
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oldmacs
macrumors 603
I like t be able to do it without having to look at it.
I don’t have to be looking at my phone when I pay with Apple Pay. Plenty of times the terminal is in a position where my face isn’t in view of the phone.
Look I get the whole 'not looking at the phone' thing but it doesn't apply here. You still have to look at your phone to ensure Apple Pay has activated, your biometrics have authenticated and also that you have the correct card selected.
The terminal can be in any sort of position, as long as you've authenticated beforehand.
kiranmk2
macrumors 68000
A10 was quite a big jump (not as big as A8-A9) but the main thing it adds is HEIC and HEVC compatibility and the availability of the low power cores for background work which should help with storage and battery life.
Having said all that, I would be a bit disappointed if there was no A11. The SE was a complete iPhone 6s missing only 3D touch, 5 MP front camera (probably as Apple had a lot of 5/5s front assemblies left over) and the barometer (I think). Other than that it had the same specs as the flagship. Therefore I'd like to see an A11 and wireless charging. I think 3D touch is really struggling to get a foot hold in 3rd party apps so it's inclusion would finally mean that all iPhones on sale support it.
True dat. I'd easily want a MacBook Pro thicker at the base to avoid use of dongles + even more battery (especially the 13" version). Imagine a double battery or at least 50% more. Their obsession with thinness has blinded them of functional greatness for the user with regards to the Mac range.
We can blame the Asian market for their obsession with phablet sized phones
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freezelighter
macrumors 6502
The only iPhone with acceptable size.
I would pay up to 2500$ for the new iPhone SE X.
Apple should stop making insanely huge phablets and concentrate on normal sizes like 3,5-4 inch!
I would pay up to 2500$ for the new iPhone SE X.
Apple should stop making insanely huge phablets and concentrate on normal sizes like 3,5-4 inch!
Mac 128
macrumors 603
That's not going to change the adoption rate of 3D Touch. It's just not a compelling technology that adds to an improved user experience. Most can take it or leave it.
A notch as big as the iphone x doesn’ t even fit right and has no use.
[doublepost=1515511071][/doublepost]It would be good for apple to make 2 se models.
1. SE with the same design, bezels , 4.0 inch screen, glass back , updated internals , camera’ s and , touchid for $349-$399 for 64gb version.
2. SE+ in the same footprint, but with smaller bezels, small chin and forehead(no notch) new aspect ratio/stretched 4.7-5.0 inch screen, with faceid for $549-599 for 64gb version.
It must be nice to have a single product bring in over $30 billion of revenue in just 3 months be considered 'not a success'! That's a very strange definition!No it’s not successful, neither is the Apple Watch, in ‘Apple’ sales terms they are failures because they would announce Apple Watch sales figures on there own if it was successful.
The market expects a certain amount of sales and it is now downgrading those expectations on the X, it has not been a success, what do you expect when it’s so overpriced?
That’s it, no more discussions on the X in this thread from me. I’d rather talk about he SE2
smacrumon
macrumors 68030
$199. Blow the competition away. At one point Apple was becoming dominant. Now the market is spread out. If Apple wants to recapture, it needs to price aggressively again similarly to iPhone, iPhone 3G/3GS and 4/4S.
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The commenter might actually mean success could be much much greater.
wilsonlaidlaw
macrumors 6502
I hope it arrives before too long as my older iPhone, a 5S on my French account is needing renewal. I might well go for a discounted SE/1 rather than a 2, as I much prefer the more robust metal back. Very much depends on what additional features the SE/2 offers. I have been very pleased with my SE/1