Isn't the question more like if skylake is coming for our fanless core-m processor of if there will be coming another fanless processor that can be built inside the rMB? Even if: Skylake doesn't seem to be such a big update from what I have heard..
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Skylake CPUs for next MB. (merged)
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bobdobalina
macrumors 6502a
Buy now. With a 20% discount you should be able to resell your machine later and absorb at least half of any depreciation. The other half will go towards your enjoyment in the meantime.
The poster was probably referring to the Best Buy mover's coupons that were widely recommended around here, but some people are posting that it's harder to get one now.
To people saying that Apple touts the benefits of one port, can you show me where they do that? All I can see is that they discuss that there is one port, not that they designed it to be one port. That's quite the difference.
toddzrx
macrumors 6502a
Quote from that paragraph:
To create a notebook as thin and light as the new MacBook, we had to strive for efficiency in every detail, right down to how it connects to peripherals and power. So we contributed to a new universal connectivity standard that combines the essential functions you need every day in one dynamic port. The amazing USB-C port offers charging, quick USB 3 data transfer for connecting to external devices and peripherals, and video output that supports HDMI, VGA, and DisplayPort connections. All in a small, reversible design that’s one-third the size of the current USB port. /
Apple doesn't saw why a single port is beneficial,they just say that in order to achieve the efficiency they required they contributed to USB-C. They don't list a single benefit of having just one port.
Saying that though, it is my uneducated guess that they only used one port because they didn't have enough space to run a cable to the other side and to attach another I/O board over there. I'd love to see another port, but I don't think we'll see it in this form factor.
zhenya
macrumors 604
They state the reason right in the first line, although many people apparently gloss right over it because 'efficiency' is not something that they are used to placing value on. Efficiency is the primary raison d'être of the Macbook, and a large part of why it's such an appealing device to me.
Keep in mind that a second port doesn't need just the low-voltage data lines most ports have typically required in the past. With usb-c that port need be capable of charging as well, which might require significantly beefier wiring and/or additional chipset control. I doubt Apple decided on a single port at random. More than likely it would have compromised the design in some way to add it.
if they will remove the 3.5mm jack maybe then we will se another usc-c, other wise buy a macbook air or a pro and stop cry
This laptop is for wireless usage
i use only 1 wire at my 5k imac so just 1 port it's enough and still the imac is a desktop and not a portable device
This laptop is for wireless usage
i use only 1 wire at my 5k imac so just 1 port it's enough and still the imac is a desktop and not a portable device
I keep wondering what would happen if they gave it two USB-C ports and someone plugged in two chargers. Probably nothing interesting, but still.
toddzrx
macrumors 6502a
C'mon folks; read that first line: "thin and light". And as Zhenya stated, efficiency.
toddzrx
macrumors 6502a
I doubt we'll see 2 USB-C ports on the 12 inch model, but I would not be surprised to see a 14 inch model next year that has 2.
A 14 inch model would defeat the purpose of the product. There is no basis that there will be a 14 inch one other than random speculation.
2nd USB isn't coming either, they would've done it the first time if they wanted to.
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
Why didnt they add all t he ports on the MBA to begin with then? Of course it will get another port, although it will likely come for revision C, as it is a good way to get people to upgrade.
I somewhere read that the intel core M doesn't support a second high speed usb type c port at the moment. So if they would have included one, there would be one good and one bad one. Something Apple would never want to do.
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
zhenya
macrumors 604
Are you sure?
Anandtech says this in their original Core-M preview http://www.anandtech.com/show/8475/intels-core-m-strategy-cpu-specifications-for-9mm-fanless-tablets
Adding a second usb-c port would give people the expectation that they could be used interchangeably - either one to charge, either one to drive a display (or both to drive a display) and that both could be used at full-speed at once. I think that Apple chose the single port perhaps because in order to make two ports fully equal they would have had to add at least one more daughter board to the design, and would have negatively affected battery life as well.
Keniutek
macrumors 6502a
I think they thought about the design (the thinner the better right), rather than about the battery drain 😉.
zhenya
macrumors 604
The two are directly related though, as the entire design is a balance between minimum weight and volume and target battery life.
toddzrx
macrumors 6502a
I respectfully disagree on both counts.
My contention is that the rMB is most likely an Air replacement, so it would actually make sense to see a "bigger brother" to the current one that will replace the 13" Air at some point. I'm not sure what all you include as the "purpose of the product", but surely small size is one of them. Other than being 1/4" deeper, the rMB is smaller in every dimension than the 11" Air. A 14" rMB would easily be smaller than the current 13" Air, if Apple desires to go that route, since the 13" Air has a 16:10 ratio screen.
As for your second point, well, it's not much of a point. Apple could have done whatever they wanted to. Apparently they chose 2 ports and, most likely, desired to cram as big a battery as possible in there. No reason they can't include more in a larger 14".
freddiecable
macrumors 6502a
Agree with you.
The first iteration of MBA did only have one USB. Quite soon it got a second port. for the rMB a second port would increase value quite much if one could use either side for charging.
The only problem replacing the Air with MB would be CPU in that case. You can actually use the MBA for moderately heavy stuff. I've hade the i7 2.0 Ghz for a bit more than 3 years now and it has been a pleasant partnership 🙂
The first iteration of MBA did only have one USB. Quite soon it got a second port. for the rMB a second port would increase value quite much if one could use either side for charging.
The only problem replacing the Air with MB would be CPU in that case. You can actually use the MBA for moderately heavy stuff. I've hade the i7 2.0 Ghz for a bit more than 3 years now and it has been a pleasant partnership 🙂
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
Mayhaps. That, or in february. Knowing Apple, and due to the MB not having been very long on the marker, I would expect the latter.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/...edule_of_Intel_mobile_Skylake_processors.html
Core M(Skylake-Y) is available next month
Core M(Skylake-Y) is available next month
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