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Skylake CPUs for next MB. (merged)

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mafaky said:
You mean a rMB with 14" retina screen, slim & sexy as the 12" sibling, 8GB RAM, 256/512GB Flash storage but with Core-M Skylakes with low TDPs? And not having a great battery life (say better than the present day 12") bcd Apple will not be able to build in that much capacity because of their thinness madness? Jeez, I would still go for a (comparatively) brick-like 13" rMBP!....:cool:
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Yeah. I mean rMB as we're on a rMB thread. I think my perfect MacBook would be a 14" rMB 16GB/500GB powered enough for what I need for my studies and comfortable and light enough for transporting it anywhere I'd go.
 
golosin2 said:
This prediction is based on... Tim told you yesterday having a beer?

No, seriously: what is your thought to say that?
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I concur with joscejrod - would be very surprising to see a rMB update in 2015.

It's not up to Apple, it's up to Intel and their downstream supply chain.

There is a vast timing difference between when Intel launch a new product from their roadmap, until when it becomes available in batches, bins and quantities sufficient for OEM's to enter volume production.

Same story every year.

September launch will probably mean mid to late November SCM distribution at the earliest.

And Apple usually gets the best binned silicon from the wafer, which takes even longer.
 
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Aquamite said:
Yeah. I mean rMB as we're on a rMB thread. I think my perfect MacBook would be a 14" rMB 16GB/500GB powered enough for what I need for my studies and comfortable and light enough for transporting it anywhere I'd go.
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Those specs with the MacBook form would be a $2k+ easy, but that would be the dream laptop
 
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Aluminum213 said:
Those specs with the MacBook form would be a $2k+ easy, but that would be the dream laptop
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It would for me. I don't really need much power than I already have on my early 2011 13" i5 2,3GHz MacBook Pro except for a slightly bump on the graphics part. I would change it for more portability and a better screen. I cannot go downer than 16GB and 500GB because of the many virtual machines I have to run for my studies. I don't know what people do on their laptops to require such extreme powerful CPUs. Looks like as nowadays every Mac user is some kind of a YouTube video producer or something. :|
 
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golosin2 said:
This prediction is based on... Tim told you yesterday having a beer?

No, seriously: what is your thought to say that?
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You'll see these launches in October/November:
imacs(new 21'5" retina imac and updated 27" 5k to skylike). Likely you'll see updated thunderbolt display with 5k display and thunderbolt 3 support(it's necessary for 60hz 5k) and other accesories like keyboard and mouse. Maybe you could see Apple releasing updated mac pro (to support that new screen) and mac mini(not sure about this).
But about notebooks, macbook pro and 12" macbook won't receive more updates this year(early-mid 2016). To suppose something about MBA is difficult, becouse its life cicle is near to the end, but not until 12" macbook price comes down.
golosin2 and vbedia, sorry if you have no patience to wait skylake (it's difficult to me too), but I'm trying to be realistic. The processor isn't the weaker point of the rMB to me. I prefer to wait more time and get 720p facetime camera, usb-c with 3.1 support...with skylake. Maybe next year, they could announce new macbook in other screen size and you like it.
Please, respect all the comments.
Pd: I'll be very pleased(not my credit card) if I'm wrong and Apple release new macbook with the improvements that I've described before. But it's unlikely.
 
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joscejrod said:
Maybe you could see Apple releasing updated mac pro (to support that new screen) and mac mini(not sure about this).
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There's no way that you'll see a Mac Pro update this year. Xeon processors that support Thunderbolt 3 (AKA Skylake-EP) aren't going to be available until, at best, mid-2016.

**UPDATE** - Evidently Skylake isn't required for Thunderbolt 3 support (I thought I'd read that Skylake would support TB3 natively), but the new Alpine Ridge TB controller is required, and after a cursory Google search I haven't found any data suggesting when these controllers will be available in quantity. Plus, the GPU picture for the next-gen Mac Pro is just beginning to take shape -- I certainly haven't seen anything that suggests that Mac Pro-appropriate GPUs will be available imminently.

Bottom line -- I'd be very surprised to see a Mac Pro update this year.
 
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kfscoll said:
There's no way that you'll see a Mac Pro update this year. Xeon processors that support Thunderbolt 3 (AKA Skylake-EP) aren't going to be available until, at best, mid-2016.

**UPDATE** - Evidently Skylake isn't required for Thunderbolt 3 support (I thought I'd read that Skylake would support TB3 natively), but the new Alpine Ridge TB controller is required, and after a cursory Google search I haven't found any data suggesting when these controllers will be available in quantity. Plus, the GPU picture for the next-gen Mac Pro is just beginning to take shape -- I certainly haven't seen anything that suggests that Mac Pro-appropriate GPUs will be available imminently.

Bottom line -- I'd be very surprised to see a Mac Pro update this year.
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Me too. But it's more probably than new rMB.
 
Intel Announces Skylake Proccessor Family – 4.5W to 65W Skylake-S, Skylake-H, Skylake-U and Skylake-Y CPUs With DDR4 Support
 
Niarlatop said:
Here is the official SKU listing from Intel:
http://download.intel.com/newsroom/kits/core/6thgen/pdfs/6th_Gen_Intel_Core-Intel_Xeon_Factsheet.pdf

We now have the Core m3, m5 and m7 lineup (almost) ready for the Skylake rMB!
We just need the technical slides to know wether these parts will support 4K@60Hz without a fan or not…
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The TDP is 4.5 watts so there is not need for a fan. However, I have my doubts whether these chips will support 4k@60Hz.. that might be too much
 
vbedia said:
The TDP is 4.5 watts so there is not need for a fan. However, I have my doubts whether these chips will support 4k@60Hz.. that might be too much
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On the previous Core M, Intel technical data sheet mentionned that 4K@60Hz was possible for these chip when coupled with an active cooling.
I'm only hoping that the improved CPU can outcome this limitation and allow 4K@60Hz without a fan since Apple will certainly not be adding a fan to their "First Fanless Mac".
 
vbedia said:
The TDP is 4.5 watts so there is not need for a fan. However, I have my doubts whether these chips will support 4k@60Hz.. that might be too much
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Apple runs all of the current Broadwell-Y chips in the current rMB in "TDP-up" mode so that their respective base frequencies are higher. In other words, the 1.3GHz M-5Y71 processor in the TOTL rMB is nominally rated at 1.2GHz, but OEMs have the option to run it at a higher TDP to increase the base frequency (see screenshot from my rMB).

Anyway, my point is that in the rMP, the actual power consumption of the CPU is higher than 4.5 watts, which presumably means the chips are running hotter and perhaps are closer to needing a fan that the as-shipped, nominally-rated processors would be.

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Niarlatop said:
Here is the official SKU listing from Intel:
http://download.intel.com/newsroom/kits/core/6thgen/pdfs/6th_Gen_Intel_Core-Intel_Xeon_Factsheet.pdf

We now have the Core m3, m5 and m7 lineup (almost) ready for the Skylake rMB!
We just need the technical slides to know wether these parts will support 4K@60Hz without a fan or not…
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My guess is that we'll see the Core m5 as the base (the version without vPro), with the Core m7 as the upgrade. That said, the Broadwell-Y came out last September and we didn't see the MacBook until April, so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the updated MacBook until January or February, perhaps along with a modest update to the Apple Watch.
 
Although today news have come a bit of surprised, I had hoped for a newly designed rMBP released this year instead of 2016, I still hope for a MacBook with Skylake release this year. I wouldn't disregard the possibility, I think it is still on the table.
 
KPOM said:
My guess is that we'll see the Core m5 as the base (the version without vPro), with the Core m7 as the upgrade. That said, the Broadwell-Y came out last September and we didn't see the MacBook until April, so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the updated MacBook until January or February, perhaps along with a modest update to the Apple Watch.
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It's too soon. There is no point announcing anything after October (since it needs to be in the stores in time for the holiday sales), and if they announced a MacBook then, just 2 months after it finally appeared in stores, there would be a lot of complaints. I think January or February is more likely.
 
KPOM said:
It's too soon. There is no point announcing anything after October (since it needs to be in the stores in time for the holiday sales), and if they announced a MacBook then, just 2 months after it finally appeared in stores, there would be a lot of complaints. I think January or February is more likely.
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Lenovo has indicated their Surface Pro clone (MIIX 700) using the Core M skylake processors will be released in November 2015. If this is the case isn't an updated rMB with skylake also a possibility for November 2015 release? If skylake is out won't it cut in to sales if Apple waits until 2016 to refresh the rMB?
 
kvyoung said:
Lenovo has indicated their Surface Pro clone (MIIX 700) using the Core M skylake processors will be released in November 2015. If this is the case isn't an updated rMB with skylake also a possibility for November 2015 release? If skylake is out won't it cut in to sales if Apple waits until 2016 to refresh the rMB?
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Lenovo commonly is one of the quicker OEM's to integrate new hardware into their products. With the first Core-M chips, they had them out in early fall 2014 while the Macbook did not appear until March 2015.
 
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common people with iphones,ipad pro,apple tv in sept announcement what is left for Oct? i really think the macbook will receive an update, mac mini as well..4k imac, and probably 27" imac
 
zhenya said:
Lenovo commonly is one of the quicker OEM's to integrate new hardware into their products. With the first Core-M chips, they had them out in early fall 2014 while the Macbook did not appear until March 2015.
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Yes, but that was a first generation product (rMB). I would hope new chips would be quicker to a new macbook than the first go round. All speculation. I am really just hoping for a space grey skylake rMB by year end. Trying to talk it into happening.
 
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KPOM said:
It's too soon. There is no point announcing anything after October (since it needs to be in the stores in time for the holiday sales), and if they announced a MacBook then, just 2 months after it finally appeared in stores, there would be a lot of complaints. I think January or February is more likely.
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In addition, think of the supply constraints the MB had on release in the spring. If they put new ones out with similar constraints just before the holiday season, the demand-to-supply ratio will be far worse.

Of course we don't know that rev 2 would be as constrained as rev 1, but I think it's a distinct possibility.
 
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