I'd say they will update the rMB in October or November considering Intel's schedule.
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I'd say they will update the rMB in October or November considering Intel's schedule.
I can see Apple updating sooner rather than later. While I think the rMB has been a success, I don't think it has the ubiquity that would make early adopters feel shorthanded.
I looked it up - i5 and i7 that are in the current gen MBAs came out in Q1'15 with the MBA then released on March 9. So, approximately 3 months later.
With Skylake to be released in September, and accounting for a similar 3 month wait as with MBAs, and knowing Apple, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple pushed the update into early 2015.
When ever has Apple updated a laptop twice in a calendar year?
No macbook update this year. Skylake macbook and macbook pro will be released the next year. In march? In june at WWDC? Or maybe later with os x 10.12? We'll see
Based on what?? At least the other people saying the contrary back up their opinion with some data. What are yours?? Sorry but saying something with no support might sound a bit skeptical to the least.
Sorry, you're right. I have no evidence. That is based in my own experience. I've bought Apple products for 9 years. Releasing an updated computer is not only to change the processor when a new one is avalaible. You have to redesign the motherboard, the battery.... And that process is very complex in the new macbook.
BUT...sometimes (like with ipad 4 release) apple can surprise everybody. Maybe, I'm wrong. Or maybe not. I'm waiting for skylake macbook/macbook pro too to buy one of them...
seems so many people who whanted the new macbook had time to buy it...now apple will give a reason for the rest of us to buy one with the new intel cpu and probably 720p but that over 40% increase in igpu is nice to have and probably 1h more battery usage
I would buy a MacBook with Skylake inside was it released this year. It could handle perfectly my workflow while I am on the road. The massive 40% improvement on the graphic department over broadwell would be appreciated too.
I mean come on, I can't believe having those processors just out and ready to ship and update the MacBook 6 months or later from now. Next year Intel is supposed to launch a new processor "Kabylake" and after that "Cannonlake". At some point Apple will update twice the MacBook in the same year with different processors unless Intel delays again. It is not in Apple best interest having a product outdated in a few months, just because Intel launches their next generation processors a few months after Apple's update. I know Apple can do whatever they want too. I want to be optimistic on this.
Intel delays are not gonna happen next year probably, they will still use the same node of 14 nm as they do use with Skylake.
I mean come on, I can't believe having those processors just out and ready to ship and update the MacBook 6 months or later from now. Next year Intel is supposed to launch a new processor "Kabylake" and after that "Cannonlake". At some point Apple will update twice the MacBook in the same year with different processors unless Intel delays again. It is not in Apple best interest having a product outdated in a few months, just because Intel launches their next generation processors a few months after Apple's update. I know Apple can do whatever they want too. I want to be optimistic on this.
Intel delays are not gonna happen next year probably, they will still use the same node of 14 nm as they do use with Skylake.
What I also wanted to note: DO NOT expect better battery life with skylake. Even though Intel says skylake increases the battery life by 1 to 1,5 hours I simply do not see how a processor should be able to affect the battery life so much.
The processor nearly consumes no energy+the display is the main reason why we are limited by battery life. If the battery life changes, it would be because of new screen tech
The processor nearly consumes no energy+the display is the main reason why we are limited by battery life. If the battery life changes, it would be because of new screen tech
Wut? What motor cleaning fluid have you been drinking? Ever experienced a computer get hot? Yeah, think about that for a moment and guess where that energy comes from.
I can agree that the CPU doesn't burden the battery too much these days, still the screen is the most power hungry, both in laptops and phones. To some extent true gaming on laptops is still a 2 hour session because of resources required from cpu and gpu. In those cases the screen is second in demand of energy.
I guess we will get an extra hour in marketing, and 40 minutes in real use with Skylake in Apples new laptop line. I am waiting for a thinner redesign on the Pro 15 with quad core, which will require cooler operation. All progress is good in my eyes, even the small steps called evolution. New GPU designs may also give the top tier of the Pro series more minutes to utilise.
I guess we will get an extra hour in marketing, and 40 minutes in real use with Skylake in Apples new laptop line. I am waiting for a thinner redesign on the Pro 15 with quad core, which will require cooler operation. All progress is good in my eyes, even the small steps called evolution. New GPU designs may also give the top tier of the Pro series more minutes to utilise.
Based on the average time between releases, rMB should be on the market around October 20th-30th.
In addition to that, people perceives this rMB as a little powerhorse computer. Students got it already, with a nice Beats. That is why Apple ofter updates computers in Spring.
Now, it is time for the rMB to be the perfect Christmas present. Apple usually (usually!) refresh the portfolio in these dates, to have almost all the products updated by November, so people can know that and buy "new brand" products. That is why new iPhones arrive in September, new iPads in October and, when possible, computers in October/November.
Launching a new product, like the rMB v1 can lead to delays, it is normal. Upgrading with new processor, memory or ssd is not that complicated. If the Skylake processors are available in September, Apple can have new rMB in October/November.
I work as a product designer and this something we all try to do. But sometimes we face problems and have to launch products on February or so, missing a huge opportunity to sell more units...
For me, it makes perfect sense to have new rMB by November.
In addition to that, people perceives this rMB as a little powerhorse computer. Students got it already, with a nice Beats. That is why Apple ofter updates computers in Spring.
Now, it is time for the rMB to be the perfect Christmas present. Apple usually (usually!) refresh the portfolio in these dates, to have almost all the products updated by November, so people can know that and buy "new brand" products. That is why new iPhones arrive in September, new iPads in October and, when possible, computers in October/November.
Launching a new product, like the rMB v1 can lead to delays, it is normal. Upgrading with new processor, memory or ssd is not that complicated. If the Skylake processors are available in September, Apple can have new rMB in October/November.
I work as a product designer and this something we all try to do. But sometimes we face problems and have to launch products on February or so, missing a huge opportunity to sell more units...
For me, it makes perfect sense to have new rMB by November.
Apple does launch iPhones and iPads in the fall to cash in on Christmas sales because they have pretty much full control over their supply chain, including the processors that go inside these products. Not so with their computers. Since they rely on Intel for their processors, computers get released more as a function of when Intel makes new processors available. It just so happens that Intel's release schedule has been timed such that Apple's products get release near or around Christmas, but that certainly hasn't always been the case historically. Personally, I wish they'd go back to releasing new computer stuff in the summer, presented at WWDC. Leave the iToys for autumn/Christmas.
But Intel's roadmap indicate that the Skylake CPU's that will be available by September 2015 will be those lower TDP models which will be only compatible with the MBA designs, not the rMBP ones!...
Can we expect a second time 2015 product introduction for the MBA before the end of 2015, and particularly in a case (cosmetic design) that is practically 6 years old?
Intel's roadmap for higher TDP Skylakes (that can be used in 13" & 15" rMBP) point towards the end of 2015 (or possibly early 2016), and in that sense we should only expect "early-2016" (say in March-April) intros for Skylake based rMBPs (and possibly in a re-design)???
Can we expect a second time 2015 product introduction for the MBA before the end of 2015, and particularly in a case (cosmetic design) that is practically 6 years old?
I'd say the MBA is at the end of its life cycle. The rMB will take over eventually. Apple may keep selling them, but this is the end of the road. I don't see it any future in its current form.
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So you also have the prediction that there will be NO Skylake based MBA end of this year or even in 2016?
That may be a pretty valid prophecy. Look at what Apple did when they integrated Broadwells in the MBAs. The battery life for the 13" model could pretty much go up to 13 hrs. They deliberately axed it and let it remain at 12 hrs. Suppose they introduce MBA with Skylakes; they will probably repeat the same axing!... So, with that kind of hardware policy, it will be a nuisance to put Skylakes in the MBA.
More info regarding Skylake Core M processors, including clock speeds.
http://www.cpu-world.com//news_2015/2015082701_Details_of_6th_generation_Core_M_processors.html
http://www.cpu-world.com//news_2015/2015082701_Details_of_6th_generation_Core_M_processors.html
No 14" on the horizon yet?
You mean a rMB with 14" retina screen, slim & sexy as the 12" sibling, 8GB RAM, 256/512GB Flash storage but with Core-M Skylakes with low TDPs? And not having a great battery life (say better than the present day 12") bcd Apple will not be able to build in that much capacity because of their thinness madness? Jeez, I would still go for a (comparatively) brick-like 13" rMBP!....
This prediction is based on... Tim told you yesterday having a beer?
No, seriously: what is your thought to say that?
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