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Praying for space for 2 drives

I've got dual 480 SSD's running in mine currently... Hoping there's still room for both or I'll be BUMMED... Only issue with the current config is that the second SSD doesn't have a wide open pipe. Perhaps the next version will cure this ill. Other than that, I've already upgraded to 16GB of ram. More horsepower would be awesome - especially if it doesn't require insulated pants for our laps and it gaves us better battery life. March release date? Oh boy...
 
You could just get an external DVD burner via USB which will work just fine. For home/office use it will work perfectly fine. On the go you may have issues, which will suck.

I think most of us rarely use optical media now though.

I agree. It's not always all about you, you know. There are probably many other people who have little use for the disk drive and would appreciate the lighter weight.
 
I've been using an 11-inch air for the past few months as my 15" 2008 MBP has been dying a slow death...and I must say, an Air-like design on the MBP would be SICK. It's just so amazing to have such power in a slim device.

Can't wait!
 
No optical drive + Slimmer body + Retina display would be amazing!

Also, for those of you having trouble understanding what a Retina display is: It's a screen that has a pixel density so high that you cannot see individual pixels at typical viewing distances. How is that marketing crap? Anyone can understand what that means. Have you seen the iPad 3 and the iPhone 4? There is a huge difference between that and previous devices.
 
There should be iPads and Airs for those who live in places with great internet or modest needs, and there should be Pros that are as thick as necessary to do more varied tasks or whose owners don't have atrophied arms.

Also, surprise, much of the population of the US, and the world, does not have decent internet connections and a movie or photo album takes hours to transfer on-line.
 
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Apple has a USB-to-Ethernet adapter available right now.
Boo! More stupid dongles to remember to carry. For example, without FW800, all my external HDDs become inaccessible, unless I pay $100 for a damn thunderbolt-->FW dongle. It would be better to have a computer that just works.
 
What if they could use that space for more battery, a discrete GPU, better cooling, etc.? Would you sacrifice the internal ODD for an external one? I would.
If they offered a region-free external I would. I don't think that the externals can have RPC-2 auto-reset firmware applied (I could be wrong though).
Apple has a USB-to-Ethernet adapter available right now.
Completely inadequate. USB is a CPU hog and real world speeds for USB 2 indicate that you won't get gigabit speeds using it like you would with a gigabit port. USB 2 is 480 Mbps whereas gigabit is 1000 Mbps. Even if they did release a USB3 adapter it would still be a CPU hog and likely to be slower than a native gigabit port. Gigabit is slow enough as it is and I don't want to carry around an adapter for a feature that should be standard in a "Pro" laptop.
 
IMO...

-loose ODD, takes up too much space for the minority who still need it.
-Retina display
-SSD or SSD/HDD combo
-10hr battery life

I don't really care if it gets slimmer. I'd rather have a 10hr battery, SSD/HDD combo, and dGPU.
 
Steve Jobs would have not approved it.

ROFLMAO Yes, the man who has been at war with physical media for ages and probably had his hands on this design before he even passed.

For that rare instance of using an optical drive, there are portable ones... wireless ones... I say go for it.


I sadly, as much as a retina display would be loved, don't see it happening. They're apparently having a hard time getting them out the door for the iPad and the larger the display, the more complex it becomes and more expensive. I see retina displays coming to all Apple products at some point, but I don't see it this revision. Maybe the second version of the redesign... for creative pros, a retina display would be amazeballs.
 
Thinner Pro line

This post might be similar to one that I posted in the Mac Pro forum but I'm going to post it anyway. I would eventually like to see the ODD go by the wayside as long as the external superdrive is made compatible. I would also like to see more utilization of thunderbolt technology. This would also mean that fewer ports would be needed. Imagine a macbook pro with only ethernet and thunderbolt. You should be able to get a thunderbolt hub that could power all devices and just use bluetooth and wifi to connect everything else. Now use the extra space left by the removal of the ODD and the unnecessary I/O with a better battery or SSD.
 
If they remove the optical drives from these I'll just have to get a refurb previous gen MBP when I upgrade soon. This really is stupid, Apple. Not exactly unexpected by any means, but still stupid.

Why is it stupid? Because it doesn't fit your needs? It seems the decisions Apple makes are for the majority, not minority. The majority of us do not use optical drives anymore and I'm in the post industry. Our storage of choice are portable externals.

Simple nothing is delivered to us anymore on optical drives. Everything is emailed, FTP or drives.

I'd say that's smart for Apple...and stupid that others haven't adapted.
 
I hope the 15" has high enough resolution. If it does, I can sell my MBA and 17" MBP and go to one machine
 
Why is it stupid? Because it doesn't fit your needs? It seems the decisions Apple makes are for the majority, not minority. The majority of us do not use optical drives anymore and I'm in the post industry. Our storage of choice are portable externals.

Simple nothing is delivered to us anymore on optical drives. Everything is emailed, FTP or drives.

I'd say that's smart for Apple...and stupid that others haven't adapted.

I still often rip and watch DVDs on my Mac. Sure, you can say "just get an external drive lol" but if I'm paying £1k for a computer I expect it to come with something as basic as a DVD drive already without having to buy an extra accessory. This isn't some £150 netbook we're talking about here, it's Apple's premium line of laptops.
 
Single Product Line?

Single product line for laptops, called 'MacBook', with 11, 13, 15, and 17" models, each with various configurations of CPU, GPU, RAM and SSD. No optical drive and room for more memory slots and/or a second SSD/HDD in the larger models.

I can't see room for both the 13" MBA and 13" MBP - they will just merge into a single product.
 
If they offered a region-free external I would.
You don't have to purchase an Apple-branded external drive. Pioneer makes external laptop drives that are super easy to update to region-free.

Gigabit is slow enough as it is and I don't want to carry around an adapter for a feature that should be standard in a "Pro" laptop.
Good God, man! What are you transferring? I saw a real-world 100MB/second transfer between my MacBook Pro (with SSD) and my uncle's Mac Pro. If Gigabit's too slow for you, Thunderbolt-to-Thunderbolt transfers are going to be your only choice.
 
Ivy bridge, improve GPUs, thinner, lighter, higher resolutions, no optical drives, better battery life, larger trackpad, 8-16GB flash storage for fast system boot, more RAM, bigger HDDs...

Flash for booting alone is dumb. The benefits of solid state drives go far beyond turning the computer on.
 
If they remove the optical drives from these I'll just have to get a refurb previous gen MBP when I upgrade soon. This really is stupid, Apple. Not exactly unexpected by any means, but still stupid.

Why just we put a 3.5" diskette drives back in if we really need 10-20 year old obsolete disk drives on board?

They are so cool, and smaller than DVD cases, I want 3.5" floppy's back !!!
 
I still often rip and watch DVDs on my Mac. Sure, you can say "just get an external drive lol" but if I'm paying £1k for a computer I expect it to come with something as basic as a DVD drive already without having to buy an extra accessory. This isn't some £150 netbook we're talking about here, it's Apple's premium line of laptops.

Sorry, but MacBooks are portable computers. You should always choose portability over convenience. I guess you rip your DVDs at home, right? So is it really such a problem to plug in an external ODD? I really don't understand why some people are so stubborn.
 
DPI and PPI would both equal to 300 each where the human eye cant see past, even up close.

I'm having trouble making sense of this sentence, but what you seem to be doing is equating 300 DPI in printed material with a 300 PPI screen. Sorry mate, but I think you're confusing some principles here. The 300 DPI figure which is commonly thrown about in printing, is actually referring to the typical resolution an image has to be in order for it not to appear pixelated when printed using halftone screens. The critical factor here is not the human eye, or how far away you view the printed material. The limiting factor is the the screen ruling, which is a measure of the number of lines of dots in the halftone screen. Basically, when printing an image, the resolution needs to be at least one-and-a-half times your screen ruling. So if you have a screen ruling of 150 LPI, then your image needs to be upwards of around 225 PPI. If you were using 180 LPI, the image resolution should be upwards of about 270 PPI. So 300 PPI happens to safely cover most printing needs, and it's a nice round number that's easy to remember. There's nothing to stop you using higher resolution images, but you won't see any difference in the quality of printed output, and again, it has nothing to do with how close you view the printed output. (Incidentally, when you print a solid colour rather than a halftone, like black type in a book for example, the actual resolution is much higher than 300 DPI! This is where the viewing distance would make a difference, but pick up a good quality book and hold it as close to your eye as you can focus, and you won't see jaggies in the type. It will appear smooth, and that is because it's been printed much, much higher than 300 DPI.)

The human eye has trouble seeing individual dots/pixels past 240dpi/ppi, but everyone is different so not everyone has the trouble.

Regardless, its a marketing term that should be a tech spec that deserves the term retina display which unfortunately it doesnt because its too loose of a term.

Sure, it's a marketing term! But it describes an aspect of the product that is absolutely relevant to the user. It's never been the goal of a display to reproduce graphics with visible pixels, like a Lego-block creation. That's just always been an inherent weakness of the technology. The ability to create the appearance of smooth, flawless lines and curves is the dream! And by all reports, this iPad screen, like the iPhone 4 screen, does that! How cool is that? I think reaching a milestone like that deserve a memorable marketing name if anything does! Now of course the ability of people's eyes to detect pixels is going to vary somewhat, and different people are going to hold the device at different distances from their faces and that distance is going to vary depending on how they're sitting and holding the device… So yes, of course, we're working with a slightly loose set of numbers here… but that's the nature of what the term describes! At the end of the day, if most users won't be able to discern individual pixels in normal use, then I think Apple has every right to market this facet of the product.

But hey, if you think a number like 240, or 264, or 300 is a more relevant descriptor, go look at the tech specs. They provide these numbers too.
 
I saw a real-world 100MB/second transfer between my MacBook Pro (with SSD) and my uncle's Mac Pro. If Gigabit's too slow for you,
It feels slow, but I can live with it. But a downgrade to slower ethernet and requiring an adapter is not a good solution for Pros. I often transfer large amounts of data.
Thunderbolt-to-Thunderbolt transfers are going to be your only choice.
I have multiple Macs, so the data will have to go over the network. I have a wired gigabit ethernet network (using Cat6 ethernet cables) and I intend to use it.
 
My 2009-MBP dvd drive broke...

Never missed it.

(due to wrong handling of the book. my fault.)
 
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