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First, how the hell do you know how many phones I've had and two, it doesn't really matter if you've had 100 of them if you don't know how to set them up properly

Wait, you have to set up a phone properly for them to work correctly? LOL!
 
I've probably owned more androids than you and can say that for it to work well, and smoothly, I have to reboot it at least once a week. After awhile it starts to slow and gets laggy. It's a known issue with Android. Google it.
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That is only because there is only ONE iPhone even if it's SE, 7, 7 Plus. Where there is all flavors of Androids as they are more fragmented. There are $20 phones all the way up to $900 phones. And many different manufactures. That is the only reason they have a lot of the market is because there are so many different types.

It's like this. Android is Toyota, while iPhone is Lexus. Both are pretty reliable, but Lexus is more reliable, and less of them on the road compared to Toyota.
[doublepost=1493069899][/doublepost]The most fragile phone.


You sound like those who keep harping how "Android crashes all the time" or "Android is unstable" or "touchwiz is unusable" without realizing how naive and uninformed you sound.

Fine.. continue your rhetoric from yesteryear and keep us entertained.
 
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Ho hum, must be a slow news day. Another bored iPhone user creating another Samsung / Android-bashing thread :rolleyes:

Seems it's the other way usually. Android users bashing iPhone users here.
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You sound like those who keep harping how "Android crashes all the time" or "Android is unstable" or "touchwiz is unusable" without realizing how naive and uninformed you sound.

Fine.. continue your rhetoric from yesteryear and keep us entertained.

I'm uninformed because you don't agree. Sorry if you don't like the facts. Read AC forums and learn.
 
Every so often, I dip my toes in the Android pool. While I like it, what keeps me running back to iOS is the quality of apps on the android side (and iMessage). Yes, the Android apps are getting better - but the overall lack of polish compared to the iOS equivalent really bugs me. I just feel like sometimes the developers phone it in when it comes to pushing out an android app...
 
Pointless to argue over two mobile OS'. They cater to different people like golf cart (iPhone) and Tesla (Android). I progressed from iPhone 4S years ago to Galaxy Note series but for my neighbor that comes to me for tech support I wouldn't suggest anything other than iPhone for them. In the end, both OS' have been around for years and will continue to be because some people want a more limited iPod experience (iPhone) while others desire a pocketable PC replacement (Android).

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Pointless to get argue over two mobile OS'. They cater to different people like golf cart (iPhone) and Tesla (Android). I progressed from iPhone 4S years ago to Galaxy Note series but for my neighbor that comes to me for tech support I wouldn't suggest anything other than iPhone for them. In the end, both OS' have been around for years and will continue to be because some people want a more limited iPod experience (iPhone) while others desire a pocketable PC replacement (Android).
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The only o/s that offers a pc replacement is Windows. Every other o/s falls far short. However if you want all of your devices to work together iOS along with Mac o/s offers that. It all depends on what you are looking for.
 
The only o/s that offers a pc replacement is Windows. Every other o/s falls far short. However if you want all of your devices to work together iOS along with Mac o/s offers that. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Not true since a PC can run Windows, Linux, MacOS, BSD, etc. but that proves the point that some don't need the capabilities so they're unaware of their device's deficiencies. One good example why Android is closer to a PC is its foreground and background multitasking capabilities.

On iOS, there's no background multitasking so a simple active Termius SSH client session gets suspended in the background then killed after 3 minutes. Also, on iPhone there's no foreground multitasking so it's limited to one app.

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On Android it's very much like a PC since I can simultaneously run a game, play PiP movie and PiP Twitch feed in the foreground while simultaneously downloading a torrent, serving media/files to other LAN hosts, copying a file from another host with file manager, have active SSH+RDC+IRC sessions, etc. in the background. With Nougat and DeX it's even more capable.

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Not true since a PC can run Windows, Linux, MacOS, BSD, etc. but that proves the point that some don't need the capabilities so they're unaware of their device's deficiencies. One good example why Android is closer to a PC is its foreground and background multitasking capabilities.

On iOS, there's no background multitasking so a simple active Termius SSH client session gets suspended in the background then killed after 3 minutes. Also, on iPhone there's no foreground multitasking so it's limited to one app.

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On Android it's very much like a PC since I can simultaneously run a game, play PiP movie and PiP Twitch feed in the foreground while simultaneously downloading a torrent, serving media/files to other LAN hosts, copying a file from another host with file manager, have active SSH+RDC+IRC sessions, etc. in the background. With Nougat and DeX it's even more capable.

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(icons at top showing apps running in background)
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Totally true, a desktop replacement for me needs to run my desktop software. Not pretend it is some desktop replacement because 2 windows can be opened. Best of both worlds is my iPhone 6s/7 and sp4.
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First, how the hell do you know how many phones I've had and two, it doesn't really matter if you've had 100 of them if you don't know how to set them up properly
That, is exactly the issue with android, imo. iOS there is no setup.
 
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Seems it's the other way usually. Android users bashing iPhone users here.
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I'm uninformed because you don't agree. Sorry if you don't like the facts. Read AC forums and learn.

You are the one who is blind to facts. Go to the iphone/ios section in this forum and see how many people are having issues and asking for help. So based on YOUR reasoning...YOU must have come to a conclusion that "iphone is unstable", "iphone crashed a lot", "iphone has crap battery life". That's what you are saying to everyone right?. If you say not so, then it just shows how hypocritical you are.
 
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Yet you managed to do just that and used the tired and misleading "market share" graphic. When we see $50 iPhone models out there, we'll let you know. :D

What's misleading? Market share is market share. There are phones out there which cost 1/3 the price of iphone and yet gives comparable capability to iphone. So? You may think you have bought an expensive iphone where its capability commensurates with the price. But it could also mean you paid all the extra for just the brand image and being "loyal" (aka locked in and not able to escape).
 
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Yet you managed to do just that and used the tired and misleading "market share" graphic. When we see $50 iPhone models out there, we'll let you know. :D

Educating is not arguing. Really not much difference between Made in China iPhone and $50 Android phone except making Apple more profitable which many could care less about. A $50 Huawei Ascend XT is a bigger screen equivalent to $550 iPhone 6S since both have the same 2GB DRAM, same JDI display, Qualcomm radio, etc.
 
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Android was fine for me, but I did not like the added bloatware. Don't need four different music players. Cleaned up the interface the best I could and used it for about a year and a half. The only reason I went back to iPhone was the Galaxy I had was painfully slow. Loved the large size, but when iPhone came out with the plus line I switched back.

No preference in OS really. To be honest these days I am getting frustrated with the constant iOS and app updates. Less frequent updates has a plus side. With iOS, just when I get used to something or find something I like it changes. I am all for security updates, but updates for sake of changing something and then calling it improved or updated? No thanks.
 
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I already said that's fine. If you test drive a car and just don't like it, just say you don't like it.

Don't start giving excuses like you couldn't get used to the gear stick coming out of the steering column instead of the center console or the cruise controls on the steering wheel instead of below the turn signal lever because those are things that are better either way and it's something you'd get used to with a little time.

I'd you don't like something, just say you returned it because you didn't like it. Otherwise people are going to read all these BS excuses that may deter them from a phone they might have really enjoyed.
Isn't this an Internet forum where opinions and reasons are encouraged? Am I missing something here????

Threads are very boring with one line answers and no discussion...
 
This was honestly pretty much how it went when I went from the 5s to the HTC One and then the Nexus 5. Android got me to love big screens though, I hated android but I wouldn't have switched back without the bigger screens.
 
This was honestly pretty much how it went when I went from the 5s to the HTC One and then the Nexus 5. Android got me to love big screens though, I hated android but I wouldn't have switched back without the bigger screens.

Back then the HTC phones where built better than the Samsungs. But yea, Apple was late to the game in terms of screen size, which caused a lot of people, including me to switch back then. It goes in cycles. I'm not loyal to any brand. If someone can build a better product then I'm open to trying new things.
 
Back then the HTC phones where built better than the Samsungs. But yea, Apple was late to the game in terms of screen size, which caused a lot of people, including me to switch back then. It goes in cycles. I'm not loyal to any brand. If someone can build a better product then I'm open to trying new things.

Samsung makes some pretty gorgeous devices now, I had to get a phone right when the S8 came out and if I didn't already know I don't like android I would have for sure picked up a s8+ over the iPhone 7+
 
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What's misleading? Market share is market share. There are phones out there which cost 1/3 the price of iphone and yet gives comparable capability to iphone. So? You may think you have bought an expensive iphone where its capability commensurates with the price. But it could also mean you paid all the extra for just the brand image and being "loyal" (aka locked in and not able to escape).
What you fail to take into account is the style differences. You could say the same about cars, by boiling them down to 4 tires, brakes, gas and steering wheel. And by that measure no car is really worth more than the least expensive model.

The theme of this is to pick what works best for you and one has every right to be biased about their smartphone requirements. iOS/Mac is better for me with windows as needed.
 
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What you fail to take into account is the style differences. You could say the same about cars, by boiling them down to 4 tires, brakes, gas and steering wheel. And by that measure no car is really worth more than the least expensive model.

Maybe if you use branded accessories/fashion goods then it is more valid.

But cars..maybe not. A merc definitely costs more to produce than a toyota (due to thousands of different components). Rightfully it should be more expensive.

But I saw the breakdown that iphone has a lower material cost than some phones which are selling at a much lower price than iphone. You may say I have not factored in R&D cost but then again Apple buys most tech from other companies and put it into the iphone.
 
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Maybe if you use branded accessories/fashion goods then it is more valid.

But cars..maybe not. A merc definitely costs more to produce than a toyota (due to thousands of different components). Rightfully it should be more expensive.

But I saw the breakdown that iphone has a lower material cost than some phones which are selling at a much lower price than iphone. You may say I have not factored in R&D cost but then again Apple buys most tech from other companies and put it into the iphone.

Apple also funds the R&D other companies do for them. It's not like they buy off the shelf components and put them in the iPhone. The parts are designed specifically for Apple in many cases. Samsung have a completely different division for R&D dedicated to Apple.

I work for a company that designs and manufactures for various other companies and they pay for R&D and tooling etc.
 
Maybe if you use branded accessories/fashion goods then it is more valid.

But cars..maybe not. A merc definitely costs more to produce than a toyota (due to thousands of different components). Rightfully it should be more expensive.

But I saw the breakdown that iphone has a lower material cost than some phones which are selling at a much lower price than iphone. You may say I have not factored in R&D cost but then again Apple buys most tech from other companies and put it into the iphone.

too many things at face value. You forget than many of these companies are making almost no if any profit in an attempt to even get their name and brand out there, being really cheap is the only real easy way to get into the Android market nowadays. Apple doesn't have that problem. You also forget that your basically paying for the software that the device is running, remember when iOS updates costed money? Apple charges a premium for both their hardware and software, it's up to the consumer to decide if it's worth it. So far it's working for Apple.
 
Maybe if you use branded accessories/fashion goods then it is more valid.

But cars..maybe not. A merc definitely costs more to produce than a toyota (due to thousands of different components). Rightfully it should be more expensive.

But I saw the breakdown that iphone has a lower material cost than some phones which are selling at a much lower price than iphone. You may say I have not factored in R&D cost but then again Apple buys most tech from other companies and put it into the iphone.
That's not the point; there is a price/value equation that works for me with iPhones. Doesn't work for you, not a problem. But the b/s about material costs. Somebody tears apart the phone and says this a10 has $.10 worth of parts, yet it costs twice as much to design as the competitions soc? Nonsense.
 
Isn't this an Internet forum where opinions and reasons are encouraged? Am I missing something here????

Threads are very boring with one line answers and no discussion...
Wow you're completely missing my point. I don't know how many times and how many different ways I have to say this to get my point across. If you don't like something, just say you don't like it. Don't pretend it's not something you could get used to when you didn't even give it a chance.
 
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