So what would happen to the average iPhone user who upgraded to the Galaxy S8/+

[Mescagnus]

I'm not sure if I'm "the average" iPhone user, as the title suggest, but here's my forthcoming exploration and some preparations for it.

First off, I've been an iPhone user since 2007. I have the iPhone 7 now, and frankly, as wonderful as it is to use iOS, the design of the phone is getting old. 3 years, little change.

I'm also fully invested in an all-Apple ecosystem with Mac Mini, iPad Pro, Apple Watch and Apple TV.

The design of S8 got me curious, and I have some toys on the way: S8, DeX, Gear VR, the Classic Gear watch (S2, the "platinum" model, as I prefered its smaller size to the newer Gear S3) and a Chromecast Ultra.

I gave the Apple ecosystem, and the seamless interplay with the devices, a long hard thought – in my particular use cases & apps.

- I use Google apps on my iDevices: Drive, Docs, Gmail, Play Music, Photos, Chrome.
- I also use MS apps on my iDevices & Mac: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, with a 365 subscription.
- I use DropBox on my iDevices & Mac, and have the iPhone Photos automatically synced to the DropBox Camera uploads (and also to Google Photos). I have also integrated a lot of apps to use DropBox as the cloud.
- For taking notes, I use Evernote on my iDevices & Mac.
- For passwords, I use 1Password across my devices.
- Throw in the usual social media apps.

So, on my S8, I will have the Google apps, MS apps, DropBox, Evernote and 1Password – with everything synced in real-time from my iDevices & Mac. Social media apps are cross-platform by default.

This means the S8 will be quite fully integrated with my most-used set of productivity apps, cloud content and social media.

In my particular use scenarios, I look forward to trying out how seamless things will be with S8 in the mix, because of all the cross-platform apps and services I use.

I wonder if the only "sore point" will be Android? On the other hand, it may be entertaining to customize it in ways that iOS can't. And I wonder what will be the first Apple-only ecosystem feature that I'll miss?

Will the new toys keep my interest sparked until "iPhone 8" and the rumored new iPad Pro arrive, or will I end up ditching the S8 sooner rather than later?

It'll be an experiment that I take on with an open mind.

 

[Glideslope]

I'm not sure if I'm "the average" iPhone user, as the title suggest, but here's my forthcoming exploration and some preparations for it.

First off, I've been an iPhone user since 2007. I have the iPhone 7 now, and frankly, as wonderful as it is to use iOS, the design of the phone is getting old. 3 years, little change.

I'm also fully invested in an all-Apple ecosystem with Mac Mini, iPad Pro, Apple Watch and Apple TV.

The design of S8 got me curious, and I have some toys on the way: S8, DeX, Gear VR, the Classic Gear watch (S2, the "platinum" model, as I prefered its smaller size to the newer Gear S3) and a Chromecast Ultra.

I gave the Apple ecosystem, and the seamless interplay with the devices, a long hard thought – in my particular use cases & apps.

- I use Google apps on my iDevices: Drive, Docs, Gmail, Play Music, Photos, Chrome.
- I also use MS apps on my iDevices & Mac: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, with a 365 subscription.
- I use DropBox on my iDevices & Mac, and have the iPhone Photos automatically synced to the DropBox Camera uploads (and also to Google Photos). I have also integrated a lot of apps to use DropBox as the cloud.
- For taking notes, I use Evernote on my iDevices & Mac.
- For passwords, I use 1Password across my devices.
- Throw in the usual social media apps.

So, on my S8, I will have the Google apps, MS apps, DropBox, Evernote and 1Password – with everything synced in real-time from my iDevices & Mac. Social media apps are cross-platform by default.

This means the S8 will be quite fully integrated with my most-used set of productivity apps, cloud content and social media.

In my particular use scenarios, I look forward to trying out how seamless things will be with S8 in the mix, because of all the cross-platform apps and services I use.

I wonder if the only "sore point" will be Android? On the other hand, it may be entertaining to customize it in ways that iOS can't. And I wonder what will be the first Apple-only ecosystem feature that I'll miss?

Will the new toys keep my interest sparked until "iPhone 8" and the rumored new iPad Pro arrive, or will I end up ditching the S8 sooner rather than later?

It'll be an experiment that I take on with an open mind.

You wonder if Android will be the "sore point?" Get out the Bandaids.

 

[mib1800]

Same experience as I have had. I've been an Android fan boy as well and owned many. The iPhone is just stable, it works, and its fast every time. I don't have to tweak it to get it to work well.
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Your experience isn't the norm with iOS though. I know at least 10 people that never had any issues with their iPhones within my vicinity. But so many have had issues with Android including myself.
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Makes me wonder why we have these android people on an Apple forum....go over to AC if you want to talk about Android.

It's always the same people hating on the iPhone on this forum.

Instead of you say, i say why not just look it up. The stability/crash factor have been studied for many years.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ios+vs+android+crash+Crittercism


There's so much water under the bridge it is not even funny. These ones are from years ago

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiog...h-more-than-android-a-data-dive/#13fb23595385

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ios/crittericism-android-apps-crash-less-often-than-ios-apps/


I am not hating iphone but it is not my favorite platform. At the very least I don't slate iphone with untruth unlike some here that put down android with broken record posts like "ios is so much more stable" or "android crashes a lot". Sometimes I am not sure whether these are just ignorant posts or just sore posts. Let's be less competitive and more amicable. Even the o/s that comes in last (in the field of 2 ) in these studies, the difference is very small. It is not the huge disparity that some posters here make it out to be.

So the conclusion you can draw is either both android and iphone are very stable or both are very unstable.

 

[nordique]

So I have a hypothesis on what would happen to the average iPhone user who would upgrade to Samsung's latest smartphone, the S8, or S8+.

1. Instant love affair: With It's lack of bezels and curved edges it would be love at first sight. An infatuation of all the features and technology.

2. Amazement with the over-saturated laminated AMOLED screen. The colors and brightness would bring the user to awe and excitement.

3. The wireless charging and waterproofing is so damn cool. Everyone would be idolizing your phone with jealousy.

Here's where things go south...

4. It's been a while and I haven't received any updates. Google just released their newest OS update and Samsung said 2 months ago it's coming soon. But when?

5. I miss hand-off and the Apple ecosystem. The ecosystem is so completely different from my MacBook and iPad. There's no consistency and compatibility with my other devices. None of my Apple app and music purchases work with Android.

6. Samsung just released another flagship phone and I still haven't received the newest OS. There's been a few zero days and I'm kinda worried, but some users on the Android forums says it's coming in the next 6 months...

7. Time to sell my S8, but the re-sale value is so low and no one wants to buy it. If only I had an iPhone I could get probably double.


Haha, a little biased, but I tried my best. This was just a humor post, g'night all...

lol some of that was some nice, tongue in cheek humour


For me it was a pretty cool experice when I got a Galaxy S7 (for free on my plan, which played the sole factor in me getting that phone)....I initially didn't like it because I was so used to iPhones and iOS....it was just cumbersome in some ways, getting accustomed to Android....but the more and more I used it, the more I appreciated it...the design reminded me of the iPhone 4 which I loved, and the AoD ended up becoming very useful and handy, as was the IP68 an enjoyable feature (sitting in a hot bath at the end of a busy day watching sports or tv on it was awesome or taking it out to the lakes and shooting some underwater pics), and mostly the screen really kept me around.

And then after about a month of using it, I got used to Android OS and the S7 in general. I loved it.

I moved back to iPhone because after my S7 broke (by my own doing), I ended up getting the 7 for free via my plan. Otherwise I would have likely jumped on the S8 instead, but I needed a phone then and there...and the 7 was the latest phone out. Aside from the blazing fast speed of the 7 (which is very nice indeed), the "experience" coming back to iOS has "overall" felt like a downgrade...not a huge downgrade or anything, but a mild one.


Most of all, what I learned is that both iOS and Android really do the same things at the end of the day now, so whichever phone I get free on my plan from now on is the one I will go with. No need to drop the extra 2-3 hundred dollars if I don't need to.

 

[I7guy]

Instead of you say, i say why not just look it up. The stability/crash factor have been studied for many years.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ios+vs+android+crash+Crittercism


There's so much water under the bridge it is not even funny. These ones are from years ago

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiog...h-more-than-android-a-data-dive/#13fb23595385

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ios/crittericism-android-apps-crash-less-often-than-ios-apps/


I am not hating iphone but it is not my favorite platform. At the very least I don't slate iphone with untruth unlike some here that put down android with broken record posts like "ios is so much more stable" or "android crashes a lot". Sometimes I am not sure whether these are just ignorant posts or just sore posts. Let's be less competitive and more amicable. Even the o/s that comes in last (in the field of 2 ) in these studies, the difference is very small. It is not the huge disparity that some posters here make it out to be.

So the conclusion you can draw is either both android and iphone are very stable or both are very unstable.

Stability is more than apps crashing, it's also having the o/s be and do the same thing time and time again without variation.

As you say android is not for me, but I can appreciate those who find it to be their o/s of choice.

 

[se1000]

Stability is more than apps crashing, it's also having the o/s be and do the same thing time and time again without variation.

As you say android is not for me, but I can appreciate those who find it to be their o/s of choice.

Just curious, what are you basing this off of exactly?

 

[mib1800]

Stability is more than apps crashing, it's also having the o/s be and do the same thing time and time again without variation.

As you say android is not for me, but I can appreciate those who find it to be their o/s of choice.

Sorry, dont know what you mean
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But all i can say is I can't remember the last time my Note 5 or r9+ crashed (if ever) needing a manual reboot.
In fact, these phones can run for months on months without slowdown/needing reboot. If this is what you meant by no variation.

 

[Mescagnus]

You wonder if Android will be the "sore point?" Get out the Bandaids.

Bandaids, oitments and possibly therapy – I might need them all

The Samsung brand is another sore point, but I already ordered a bandaid for it: a matte black Dbrand skin for the S8's back cover. It'll hide the hideous logo, and add some grip as a bonus

https://dbrand.com/shop/samsung-galaxy-s8-skins

 

[I7guy]

Just curious, what are you basing this off of exactly?

What am I basing what off?

 

[geta]

"what would happen to the average iPhone user who would upgrade to Samsung's latest smartphone, the S8, or S8+" - he'll be amazed from the hardware, but his head will explode from trying to use Android OS.

 

[mib1800]

"what would happen to the average iPhone user who would upgrade to Samsung's latest smartphone, the S8, or S8+" - he'll be amazed from the hardware, but his head will explode from trying to use Android OS.

yeah...too much to handle anything that's not idiot-proof
(sorry and lol)

 

[Channan]

it's also having the o/s be and do the same thing time and time again without variation.

Can you give some examples of what you mean by this? I've never had an Android phone that did something one way one day, and couldn't the next. The only thing that was sometimes inconsistent on my Galaxy S7 Edge was battery life, but it still almost always got me through the day.

 

[macmann81]

The same can be said the other way around. You appreciate the quick updates and seamless integration between other Apple products, but then you start to realize all the things you can't do on iOS that you were used to on Android.

I've been using both operating systems concurrently for the past 7 years, so I've learned to get the most out of both. For example, while Continuity is nice, I don't want to be restricted to only Apple products, so I use Google Voice instead. It allows me to pick up any device with any OS I want (phone, tablet, laptop, Android, iOS, Windows, Mac) and still get all of my calls and texts.


Not to mention a bunch of features come through Play Services updates, which are pushed by Google to every phone with Play Store access. There is a minimum Android version number you must be on to get these updates, which I don't know off the top of my head, but even Gingerbread (Android 2.3) was getting these updates until a year or two ago.


Couldn't be less true.


Wait, you're surprised you couldn't break old habits in the two days you had this phone?

Couldn't get used to the fingerprint scanner on the back in two days.

Couldn't get used to positioning your phone for the iris scanner in two days.

Couldn't get used to the volume button position in two days.

You didn't give it a real chance. The only thing I'm surprised about is that you couldn't figure out how to adjust the display saturation in two days.

Never said i couldn't adapt habits or change settings. Are you sure you are not just surprised that someone didn't like the s8 enough to make new habits and change settings? I simply knew the phone was not for me and stated a few opinions. I apologize that you do not agree with those opinions. To each his own.

 

[Channan]

Never said i couldn't adapt habits or change settings. Are you sure you are not just surprised that someone didn't like the s8 enough to make new habits and change settings? I simply knew the phone was not for me and stated a few opinions. I apologize that you do not agree with those opinions. To each his own.

That's fine if you don't like it. Just say you don't like it. Don't make excuses like you couldn't adapt and change habits in just two days.

The problem isn't that you couldn't get used to things. It's that you didn't like it enough to give it a chance, and that's something I can't argue with.

 

[KillaMac]

Sorry, dont know what you mean
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But all i can say is I can't remember the last time my Note 5 or r9+ crashed (if ever) needing a manual reboot.
In fact, these phones can run for months on months without slowdown/needing reboot. If this is what you meant by no variation.

Laugh. Sorry but I have never seen my S7 Edge or any android phone last more than a few weeks without needing a reboot due to issues. For that matter, why does Android allow you to program in a time to restart it automatically? lol.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The problem isn't that you couldn't get used to things. It's that you didn't like it enough to give it a chance, and that's something I can't argue with.

In this day and age I think it's reasonable to know whether you like something in a couple of days. I can tell from test driving a car whether I like it or not. I don't buy it and try and like it or get used to it. Android and iOS both do exactly the same thing, but deliver it in a different way. They have features the other doesn't and hardware is really only a fancy selling point these days. I do the same tasks whether I own an iPhone 6S, a 7 or an Android device.

If a user doesn't gel with the interface then that is a fair point that nobody can argue. That goes for any platform. The interface is the experience at the end of the day.

 

[Beenblacklisted]

The average iPhone user will switch back. iPhone is very simple, efficient and always works. Android has a Preety tough track record with giving up on its users.

not true, if it was they wouldnt have more than 50% market share. personal politics cannot change facts.

 

[se1000]

Laugh. Sorry but I have never seen my S7 Edge or any android phone last more than a few weeks without needing a reboot due to issues. For that matter, why does Android allow you to program in a time to restart it automatically? lol.

That's not my experience. Last time I visited my parents I got curious and took a look at their phones to see how they were doing. They both had uptimes in excess of 4 months, one was past 6 months I believe. Both androids.

My personal experience is the same, I don't remember the last time I "had" to reboot.

 

[KillaMac]

That's not my experience. Last time I visited my parents I got curious and took a look at their phones to see how they were doing. They both had uptimes in excess of 4 months, one was past 6 months I believe. Both androids.

My personal experience is the same, I don't remember the last time I "had" to reboot.

I've probably owned more androids than you and can say that for it to work well, and smoothly, I have to reboot it at least once a week. After awhile it starts to slow and gets laggy. It's a known issue with Android. Google it.
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not true, if it was they wouldnt have more than 50% market share. personal politics cannot change facts.

That is only because there is only ONE iPhone even if it's SE, 7, 7 Plus. Where there is all flavors of Androids as they are more fragmented. There are $20 phones all the way up to $900 phones. And many different manufactures. That is the only reason they have a lot of the market is because there are so many different types.

It's like this. Android is Toyota, while iPhone is Lexus. Both are pretty reliable, but Lexus is more reliable, and less of them on the road compared to Toyota.
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[Phil in ocala]

There's no doubt the galaxy S8 is a really nice phone and it's going to do really well. I think the S8 offers a lot in terms of hardware of what Samsung released this year. The biggest adjustments I have been reading so far about the S8 is the remapped fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone and the sheer size of it, with the models offering 5.8 and 6.2. But it's a beautiful phone.

But I think if you are someone that is heavily investing into Apple's ecosystem, it's not an easy change to transition over to the S8. Also one thing that doesn't change about the Galaxy series is the bloatware. But overall, the question you have to ask is does the aesthetic appeal of the S8 eventually wear off when you have a true appreciation for Apple's iOS and user interface.

In terms of resale, I feel the iPhone actually has the edge being how popular they are even after so many years used. However, both Phones have their advantages and disadvantages in my opinion.

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I would miss my iPhone 5C asking me over and over and over for my itunes password and asking me over and over for my password for my icloud email....you just can't get that on the Samsung..

 

[Jimmy James]

So I have a hypothesis on what would happen to the average iPhone user who would upgrade to Samsung's latest smartphone, the S8, or S8+.

1. Instant love affair: With It's lack of bezels and curved edges it would be love at first sight. An infatuation of all the features and technology.

2. Amazement with the over-saturated laminated AMOLED screen. The colors and brightness would bring the user to awe and excitement.

3. The wireless charging and waterproofing is so damn cool. Everyone would be idolizing your phone with jealousy.

Here's where things go south...

4. It's been a while and I haven't received any updates. Google just released their newest OS update and Samsung said 2 months ago it's coming soon. But when?

5. I miss hand-off and the Apple ecosystem. The ecosystem is so completely different from my MacBook and iPad. There's no consistency and compatibility with my other devices. None of my Apple app and music purchases work with Android.

6. Samsung just released another flagship phone and I still haven't received the newest OS. There's been a few zero days and I'm kinda worried, but some users on the Android forums says it's coming in the next 6 months...

7. Time to sell my S8, but the re-sale value is so low and no one wants to buy it. If only I had an iPhone I could get probably double.


Haha, a little biased, but I tried my best. This was just a humor post, g'night all...

1. No bezels introduces its own problems, especially if you use a case. Smaller bezels are fine but I'll be disappointed if Apple eliminates them.

2. I saw someone taking a pic with their samsung and thought they had a cartoon filter. Nope. Don't want that.

3. Wireless charging, I don't care either way. Waterproofing is huge for me. I love that feature. Beyond that I really Do. Not. Care. what anyone thinks of my phone or of me because of my phone.

4. Agree.

5. Give and take. I don't use handoff. I do like how my samsung tablet integrates with my google services.

6 & 7. I see your point.

 

[se1000]

I've probably owned more androids than you and can say that for it to work well, and smoothly, I have to reboot it at least once a week. After awhile it starts to slow and gets laggy. It's a known issue with Android. Google it.
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First, how the hell do you know how many phones I've had and two, it doesn't really matter if you've had 100 of them if you don't know how to set them up properly

 

[syphern]

Here is my take on it. Sure the phone has a fancy nice display but it's a minimal evolution. It's not worth it. We should wait for that big evolution the same as when the og iPhone was released.

They have brought out small improvements now but all these guys lack that wow power.

I learned the above when I had a iPad 12 inch and ran out to get a 9inch pro because of better colour gamut new features. But ultimately it's the same with minimal benefit

 

[Channan]

In this day and age I think it's reasonable to know whether you like something in a couple of days. I can tell from test driving a car whether I like it or not. I don't buy it and try and like it or get used to it. Android and iOS both do exactly the same thing, but deliver it in a different way. They have features the other doesn't and hardware is really only a fancy selling point these days. I do the same tasks whether I own an iPhone 6S, a 7 or an Android device.

If a user doesn't gel with the interface then that is a fair point that nobody can argue. That goes for any platform. The interface is the experience at the end of the day.

I already said that's fine. If you test drive a car and just don't like it, just say you don't like it.

Don't start giving excuses like you couldn't get used to the gear stick coming out of the steering column instead of the center console or the cruise controls on the steering wheel instead of below the turn signal lever because those are things that are better either way and it's something you'd get used to with a little time.

I'd you don't like something, just say you returned it because you didn't like it. Otherwise people are going to read all these BS excuses that may deter them from a phone they might have really enjoyed.

 

[edfoo]

Ho hum, must be a slow news day. Another bored iPhone user creating another Samsung / Android-bashing thread