But you do
When someone said why they ditched the iphone for some reasons, you want to slot in your opinion.
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So what would happen to the average iPhone user who upgraded to the Galaxy S8/+
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But you do
When someone said why they ditched the iphone for some reasons, you want to slot in your opinion.
On an Internet discussion board? No way...But you do
Pretty normal on forums for people to put their opinion as fact, and they want to argue to no end that their device is better. They are all great devices.
Had someone call me today on their new Galaxy S8. Sounded very clear. Amazing sound quality.
I must say i'm sold on Android. I own two phones, one running android and one running iOS and I think Android looks better, and completes tasks with much less faff.
No closing apps in the background, no having to constantly trick iOS into doing simple tasks, No nonsense.
No closing apps in the background, no having to constantly trick iOS into doing simple tasks, No nonsense.
As far as the battery is concerned, the Galaxy S7 Edge on Nougat has much better battery management features. If you notice the battery draining faster than normal, you can easily kill those apps from the battery settings and Samsung gives an option to alert you to rogue apps draining excessive amounts of power in the background. Just keep on top of it and you shouldn't have such a drastic difference with battery life from day to day.
To be fair, call quality is only going to be as good as the worst device used, so if the Galaxy S8 sounded very clear, whatever phone you had is at least as good, too.
You are right about the battery issues. I have found that most of my problems is a golf app that sucks battery even when asleep.
Who closes apps? IOS it is unnecessary to close apps.
I received the call on a 7 plus, but when he called me from his new phone I noticed emmediately how clear he sounded. In fact better than when my wife calls me on her 6 plus.
iOS has a habit of doing unnecessary things for you like closing apps you didn't ask it to.
According to apple apps don't have to be closed, except in the rare case of badly written apps like facebook. And this type of mis-behaving happens on android as well, giving performance and battery issues.iOS has a habit of doing unnecessary things for you like closing apps you didn't ask it to.
I think the topic on how iOS and Android handle app behavior (background + suspended) has been discussed/bashed to death.
In short, IOS more extreme approach to not allow background apps is very good for standby time but cut out certain functionalities that require app to be active in background.
Android provides a middle ground whereby standard apps behave like iOS way. But if developers code a service component in the app, the app can continue to stay active in background by conforming to the "service" requirement - it can only start running for a limited amount of time when it receives a system event.
I have about 15+ active "service" apps running in the background in my r9s+. Most of them have 0.5 to 1% battery usage. The worst is the always on pedometer app using 2-3%. Compared to screen which uses 15-25%, I can live with this background apps battery usage since what I can get are functionalities that are not possible on iPhone.
Android does that too so that's a bit of a silly statement.iOS has a habit of doing unnecessary things for you like closing apps you didn't ask it to.
I don't think I've ever used a phone that doesn't occasionally close an App. The wonderful world of software.
In this context close is more like to stopping/suspending the app. IOS (almost) always do that when app is no longer in foreground even when you don't want it to stop (e.g like when downloading/uploading stuff). Android does not do that.
In my experience some apps do continue running, like Google Photo. The bonus of not having all apps running in the background is better battery life. I don't think this is really a criticism of iOS, but more a bonus imo.
Yes, and you brought it up, in a manner meant to be pejorative.
You pick your poison here. Better battery life, or less stand by time leading to more battery drain. Either way, this is a "no-win argument".
This is why ios with apple hardware gets very good battery life, relative to the size of the battery to a "typical" android device.
I don't really care how many "service" apps run in the background. I care about responsiveness and battery life and the ability to do things natively quickly and not have the battery drain, such as facetime my SO
There is no degradation in response even with my phone using sd653 chip which is not even the top-range. The key is RAM and multi-core cpu. Unlike Apple which skimmed on RAM by giving a measly 2 or 3 Gb in flagship, most android even mid-range ones have 3 to 6 Gb RAM.
Android battery use will be more since background processes consume battery. But you are getting something in return as tasks will be carried out concurrently while you are doing something else. There is no waiting unlike iphone. Plus you can do many more use cases which are not possible with IOS. e.g multi-window, scheduled/event driven automated tasks etc. And S8 even has similar or even better battery life while performing tasks compared to 7+. Android phones have improved battery life over the years (even with background multi-tasking) and catching up to iphone. But iphone seems to have stagnated (or regressed) in this aspect since every new OS version updates there are complaints of degradation in battery life.
Anyway, I am not questioning your preference for iphone that has an OS that is similar to MS-DOS level of capabilities. For me, I prefer Android which is more in line with a modern day desktop OSes like Window 10.
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And I'm not questioning your preference either. All I'm pointing out is the ease of use, built-in apps and functionality not on android, ecosystem integration, extensive quality app store, 5 year support, decent after market sales value, best in class soc are some of the reasons I prefer an iphone. I have never felt hindered in what I have to do, as what I can't do on IOS, I couldn't do on android either and my sp4 more than makes up for whatever can't be done on both platforms. You can have any use case you want on my sp4. Android is nowhere near Windows 10, imo. It's always a game of leapfrog and even the 7s will best the s8. As far as degraded battery life, there is certainly an ton of stuff, if one web searches it, that lends credence to what happens to android phones as they age. With IOS 10.3.2 beta xx my iphone is sipping battery life, certainly can't tell the phone is 1.5 years old.
But this tit-for-tat generally goes nowhere as everybody has their preferences and reasons for what platform(s) they choose. And nobody seems to change anybody's mind.
7S will not beat the S8. iPhone Edition will. The Note 8 will come right on time to remedy that. The Galaxy S8 is a sleek piece if engineering without a competitior as of now
Android also does more than iOS. Can you download custom files? Can you interact with the file manager? Do I need to have proprietary software to transfer basic files. Android has split screens on phones etc
5 year support is not really support other than a version number change. Device slows down and apart from app updates there aren't any new features for older device. Ask any Android owner who spends as much as an iPhone on Android flagships and this is what he will tell you
Sure it will, it depends on your metrics, benchmarks, priority of features etc.
No it really doesn't, it does different things. Does android on all their flagships have 3dt, continuity, native video or message, ability to pick up calls on any device on the same wifi, including your mac etc, plus the other things I mentioned. There goes that tit-for-tat again.
My devices haven't slowed down. And ios 6 is nowhere near as functionally rich as ios 9. So yeah, 5 year support is really 5 year support, even on devices that can't support the exact features due to newer hardware.
Loses on the screen quality. Loses in speed tests with daily apps. Loses on the design and battery. Its not even close
No Android will ever get 3DT even 10 years from now because long press is just so widely supported on Android that it makes no sense to add another right click menu and mess everything up. iOS did not have a righ click menu hence it work there. Apart from phone calls, Androids work as well with each other and are actually superior to iOS in that they sync with both Windows and Mac. I can replicate all my Android notifications on my desktop.
I always keep Skype handy on my phone because if the other user doesn't have an iPhone I am stuck.
If you see comments of why Android users spend as much as an iPhone on a device with a lesser time frame for updates (The Pixel XL costs 870 as much as a 7 Plus but with end of life next year) this is in fact the main reason.
If I asked you list all the features between iOS 10 and iOS 9 for an I phone 6 its mostly app updates which are updated via play store on Android so no difference there
Not trying to change anyone's mind but wouldnt it be better that with more information, iphone users would be better informed about the competing platform and vice-versa.
For discussion sake,
- Just a mention that some of your above points depend on where you are. In China, there are many resellers/service centers for their local brands than apple. That's one of the reasons why Apple is losing market in China. Where I am from, there is only one Apple store/center in the whole country whereas Huawei/Oppo/Samsung have many regional centers. For some china brands their standard warranty is 2 years instead of one.
-iphone eco-system integration such as continuity, is available for other phones (e.g. Samsung equivalent is Flow). There are many apps too like pushbullet, Airdroid that are similar. Good thing is all these are non-proprietary unlike Apple implementation. Similarly with IMessage/FT.
-App Store "better quality" is hard to quantified as well. Both platforms have their equal share of crap apps. Some popular apps (Google, FB, keyboard, productivity) are better on Android. Some like games are better on iOS.
- You said you were not hindered with iphone. Maybe because you live in connected apple world. For others, iphone is more restrictive. Don't talk about advance stuff. Basic thing like iphone charging/data cable can be a pain sometimes. Lack of USB Host/OTG support is another. Nothing beats the simplicity of plugging your thumb/portable drive directly to phone to move big files in/out of phone. Iphone also lacks of open protocols. Using android you can mirror phone screen to any (standalone) smart TV/PC. Same with stream and file/data exchange. And connecting to shared folders (in your home/work) is a breeze unlike iphone. And all the above are just basic stuff we expect from any connected IT/computer systems.
Wins on other functionality such as Live Photos and 3dt. And the s8 already lost to the i7 on speed test. Not even close.
To bad for android then, which is why iPhone will keep the edge. My iPhone and MacBook Air are superior to anything android has to offer and windows when I need it.
Don't need it don't use it. FaceTime is all I need.
Huh? What?
Not true, at all. iOS 10 has hundred of differences and improvements from iOS 9, including performance enhancements.
Same about android users.
You went through a littany of stuff that my iPhone and sp4 breeze through with functionality that android can't match. Everything can be debated as I've mentioned functions that are native to the Apple ecosystem that makes my life more efficient. Ability to answer phone calls from any device, Live Photos of my dog, kids, seamless photo sharing, hand off. Sp4 for business needs. And yes my iPhone can be mirrored to my Apple TV and smart tv. And any file can be downloaded and uploaded to my iPhone via An app that interfaces with http on my desktop. Yes, I'm plenty connected.
Are we talking about phone or what? Try putting your sp4 in your pocket
Why stop there. Why not bring along your macbook as well.Your "ability to answer call" from any device is inaccurate. Should be from ONLY apple devices. With Samsung Flow or Air Droid, you can really do that from ANY device. Since you are already carrying stuff along, doesn't hurt to carry the apple TV with you as well to do mirroring.
S8 can do all above by itself without lugging along any other devices. Much cheaper too.