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After installing I had several crashed coming out from sleep. Macbook 2019 16". About 7 in the same day. I started removing apps from the startup one by one. Now its stable. But I'm sure there is something going on.
 
I agree. But i'm afraid Apple's response to declining Mac sales will be something like this...
"People have stopped using Macs and are using iPhones, iPads and Apple Watches, so going forward, we will be decreasing investment in Macs and macOS and focusing more on iOS, watchbands and bigger iPhones"

*shudder*
I see that happening anyway so do you want to be the last one on the ship looking for a seat in an overcrowded lifeboat?
 
Personally, rather than switching, I just quit upgrading my Apple hardware. They’ve become too frustrating to use and I’m not willing to give Apple any more of my money until they get things fixed.

So 2013 MBA, iPhone SE, 2012 Mac Mini, iPad Mini 5; good enough.

I know neither Tim nor Apple care, but then I don’t care that they don’t care.
 
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My hackintosh had been crashing when waking from sleep in 10.15.4. I thought it was just a quirk of non-native apple hardware, but I did know that 10.15.3 and below never had any such issue. I managed to make some changes in the BIOS that fixed the problem but now that native apple hardware also has the issue... I wonder if we're seeing the impacts of COVID on macOS quality?

I hope this isn't a foreshadowing of 10.16.
 
Never imagined my 2013 MBA’s inability to run Sidecar would be its saving grace.
 
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Got my MacBook Pro on Friday and immediately had this issue waking from sleep with lid closed. Just got off a call where I was offered to escalate it to engineering or swap my machine. I’m afraid any swap would have the same issue and it’s such a great machine in every other aspect I went the engineering route. Still 10 days or so to decide if I am going to keep it...
 
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Totally agree. BEST OS EVER.

This existed because iOS needed to be created from a bloated and non-optimized Mac OS X. Since the first iOS device (iPhone) had such minimal resources, the OS was optimized. Because Steve Jobs was obsessive about details, every little annoyance he was aware of was marked for termination. Only a few bugs in that OS weren’t fixed and they rarely bother me. High Sierra bugs me constantly; mostly basic UI stuff, like pointers, drag and drop in Finder, and QuickView (which is literally getting more buggy at each OS revision).

There has not been another engineering motivator at Apple to do this kind of optimization and bug-extermination since then.

The only motivation at Apple is to sell more iOS devices by way of adding yet more features, many of which are questionable value anymore. iOS is a pile of bugs and has been so since iOS 7 was released in 2013, the year that the quality Apple was replaced by the short-sighted “form over function” Apple. Just editing text on a web page in Safari is a ****ing PITA (this site included). Selection, cursor placement, editing, even autocorrect randomly failing to operate...

After new junk is added to iOS, Mac OS then gets modified to support whatever junk was added to iOS (inconsistently) just to promote iOS device sales. This results in Mac OS quality suffering.

And probably also the rewriting of OS components in Swift, by people who aren’t the original writers of those components, who don’t know why the code was written the way it was originally written (lost skills, expertise, and knowledge at Apple).
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The "I'm a Mac" thing hasn't aged very well.

Exactly. I left Windows and PCs because they’re inconsistent piles of voodoo. Now Apple has become a purveyor of the same.
 
Every time I consider upgrading to an MBP 16, I realize that Catalina's instability + lack of legacy support just isn't worth it.

I really wish there was some kind of "macOS Classic" or "macOS Pro" that literally just takes 10.14.6 and snow leapords it for people that use macs for actual work and not stupid iOS-ported bloatware (news, books, music, etc)

i know it‘s not popular and I will get beaten for it, BUT hackintosh fixed it all for me. That‘s all I‘m gonna say.
 
I agree. But i'm afraid Apple's response to declining Mac sales will be something like this...
"People have stopped using Macs and are using iPhones, iPads and Apple Watches, so going forward, we will be decreasing investment in developing Macs and macOS and focusing more on iOS, watchbands and bigger iPhones"

*shudder*

Between the "Trash can MacPro" and the "butterfly keyboards" kerfuffles, i thought they might have been looking for an excuse to give up on Macs and get out of the personal-computer business altogether.

Their sales aren't declining.
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Totally agree. BEST OS EVER.

This existed because iOS needed to be created from a bloated and non-optimized Mac OS X. Since the first iOS device (iPhone) had such minimal resources, the OS was optimized. Because Steve Jobs was obsessive about details, every little annoyance he was aware of was marked for termination. Only a few bugs in that OS weren’t fixed and they rarely bother me. High Sierra bugs me constantly; mostly basic UI stuff, like pointers, drag and drop in Finder, and QuickView (which is literally getting more buggy at each OS revision).

There has not been another engineering motivator at Apple to do this kind of optimization and bug-extermination since then.

The only motivation at Apple is to sell more iOS devices by way of adding yet more features, many of which are questionable value anymore. iOS is a pile of bugs and has been so since iOS 7 was released in 2013, the year that the quality Apple was replaced by the short-sighted “form over function” Apple. Just editing text on a web page in Safari is a ****ing PITA (this site included). Selection, cursor placement, editing, even autocorrect randomly failing to operate...

After new junk is added to iOS, Mac OS then gets modified to support whatever junk was added to iOS (inconsistently) just to promote iOS device sales. This results in Mac OS quality suffering.

And probably also the rewriting of OS components in Swift, by people who aren’t the original writers of those components, who don’t know why the code was written the way it was originally written (lost skills, expertise, and knowledge at Apple).
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Exactly. I left Windows and PCs because they’re inconsistent piles of voodoo. Now Apple has become a purveyor of the same.

Knowing Craig and many of his team as a former employee seeing a lot of the old NeXT guard returning should soon pay dividends.
 
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I like Rene Ritchie's idea that he mentioned on MacBreak Weekly last week. Apple should announce new features and then roll them out over a period of 1-1.5 years when they are ready, instead of firmly deciding on the next iOS/iPhone release date to release these new features.

That will give the devs more time to polish the features and fix bugs at the same time.
 
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I believe people that install from scratch, then reconfigure/reinstall after, are in the best position to benefit from any macOS upgrade. for whatever reason, my experience has taught me that apple doesn't do a good enough job identifying user data migration and configuration ...

if you're having issues ... consider f-disking and reinstall/reconfigre everything from scratch.

PIA I know ...

So, Microsoft Windows...
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Their sales aren't declining.
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Knowing Craig and many of his team as a former employee seeing a lot of the old NeXT guard returning should soon pay dividends.

What do you mean ”returning”?
 
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The last great MacBook Pros: MagSafe, ports aplenty and a great typing experience!

I know that’s why I am not buying anything over 2015. I will wait for Arm, since intel is not long term anymore - those 2019 16 inch will soon be obsolete once Apple goes Arm, but I may just go with a Linux PowerPC laptop - now that IBM made open source everything it’s now possiblebto create a PowerPC laptop.
 
I've never experienced this problem... until today, while reading this article ironically enough. I paused my bluetooth, and my machine froze completely.

That's the first time I've ever had this mac completely fail without being able to somehow reboot it.
 
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Unlike SL, Mojave was pretty stable from the beginning.
 
My partner is working from home, she took home from the office a 38” Dell curved display. I couldn’t wait to see the look of macOS on that screen. Plug it in, doesn’t work.
After the update to 10.5.4 I tried again and it worked, but not after 2 consecutive kernel panics.

Just ridiculous. And she was making fun of the Mac saying she doesn’t have any issue with her work laptop (dell). I ran out of topics to support the fact that a Mac is better than a windows laptop..
 
Since the update to Mojave 10.14.6 on my '17 Air, Safari now locks up the machine every couple of days. I have to open up to do a forced restart. Waiting for a fix to Mojave or for a usable version of Catalina.
 
I own Macs for 10 years now and this is the first time I am seriously considering doing a clean install of the OS on my 2018 MBP after just a year and a half owning it. My 2012 has a 10 year old
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I recently booted my 2010 Mac Pro on 10.6.x to use DVD Studio Pro. Man, it’s soooooo smooth and fast on a Xeon. Shame that that safari version doesn’t work with modern websites. Also had problems with network transfers to a from Catalina, but I don’t know if it’s due to its age.
 
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