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Spotify Pauses Plans to Add AirPlay 2 Support to iOS App [Update: Spotify Clarifies]

+1 I can select all my Airplay devices on Spotify, 4 HomePods, Bluesound Node and my Naim Uniti Atom can play in sync all over my place. Just have to initiate it from my iPhone or iPad.
Tried AM.. it just screwed up my on Mac library and it took a restore from backup to fix it.
Love the fact that AM went CD quality and hopefully Spotify will flow suit. Also, Spotify Connect is great for my main systems..
 
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Is there’s a migration tool? Like to migrate my playlists from Spotify to Apple Music?
 
BB8 said:
because it's better
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Maybe better for you but as someone all in on apple’s ecosystem it isn’t. I also don’t want 2 separate music libraries for streaming music abs my preexisting library of ripped cds and iTunes purchases
 
Matti_ said:
I totally agree. Apple Music is focused on the US Market. Here in Europe, Apple does not provide enough songs. A lot of european artists, european remixes of songs are missing. Also, in Europe we have many different languages, and for me for example, I am missing a lot of german songs.
I had used 5-6 month Apple Music and last year. I used a 3rd party programm to transfer my favorites and playlists from spotify to apple music. But I was glad when I changed back, because there were too many songs missing. I guess, that‘s why spotify is more popular in europe.
Also podcasts and so on are better made at spotify because they are translated in different languages
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Interesting. I’m in the US, and listen to a lot of UK, US, Latin American, and Western European (Portuguese, French, Spanish) music, and I find overall a great selection. There‘s only a lack if I look for really old music (like going back to the 50s) from Spain or Latin America. Although, their artist bio sections are really limited (with Scotty coverage) once you get outside of largely mainstream US/UK artists.
 
MickeyVee said:
+1 I can select all my Airplay devices on Spotify, 4 HomePods, Bluesound Node and my Naim Uniti Atom can play in sync all over my place. Just have to initiate it from my iPhone or iPad.
Tried AM.. it just screwed up my on Mac library and it took a restore from backup to fix it.
Love the fact that AM went CD quality and hopefully Spotify will flow suit. Also, Spotify Connect is great for my main systems..
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Same deal here - I use Spotify and can get all 4 homepods around my house to play the same song, and Spotify Connect is awesome. I can control my music from my iPhone, iPad, or even Windows work computer.
 
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To be fair, step 4 of that 4-step process for supporting AirPlay 2 is "completely rewrite your entire audio player to use virtually-undocumented, miserably inefficient APIs". Apple have made it way too easy for them to not bother.
 
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GSWForever8 said:
I disagree. Spotify keeps putting ads everywhere and sends you emails to use premium. And they add music for you on the mobile app, which is why I rarely listen to music on the go compared to before.
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Hmm odd I never have ads ir soam from sportifu.... right i decuded that the service thay provide is good enugh tu stump up the cach for the sub, I guess you get wahat yoy oay fir...
 
alchemistmuffin said:
That is actually a blatant lie on part of Spotify’s part.

Real reason is simple: unless Apple makes App Store more fair under Spotify’s terms, they have suspended implementation of new iOS features into the Spotify app as protest.

This includes adding native support for HomePod. Apple in fact reached out to Spotify about adding native support before launch of HomePod mini, but Spotify never responded.

That is according to rumor from industry source.

in fact, they may pull nuclear and discontinue iOS app altogether and encourage users to get an Android phone. Hell, there is far fetched rumor that they are in fact making their own Android phone.

either way, Spotify is one being a !€£% here would not be surprised if US government steps in and accuse Spotify of running a cartel, because Apple’s terms are very fair and square.
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Well if they remove the ios/ipados/tvos app tat•ll be rge day i cancke my spotify premium sub, if thay want ro make it inconvinient for e to use their service, I'll just stop using it, it'll suc but I'll manage
 
andreiru said:
Spotify premium comes with my banking while apple would be a £10/month subscription. I use airplay 2 amd don’t quite understand the difference between ‘native app’ support vs what I have now - guessing native iOS support?
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Which banks that?!
 
steevn said:
This is true, we are entirely Apple everything, MacBooks, iPad, iPhones, Apple TV, thermostat, lights, Airplay speakers, homepods etc BUT I am well aware that Apples presence for whole home and smart speakers is extremely tiny so it’s not surprising they don’t care much about Apple specific features.

I do however find their reasoning of being too difficult as extremely lazy and sad for a company that’s use is completely dependent on playing to different devices.

I use and prefer Apple Music so it doesn’t effect me, but their reasoning is just ridiculous.
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I’m on the same page as you regarding the use of Apple tech.

But don’t think Spotify has been lazy at all. A few years ago before even chrome cast Spotify came out with Spotify Connect. Airplay implantation was minimal … quickly Spotify Connect was relatively widespread.

Spotify Connect is supported by almost any smart device in the market but … Apple of course. Also Spotify quickly supported major digital assistants and Smart TVs again but … Apple because it would not let them or anything other. Apple simply did not want any dev to use Siri has a Voice UI. Furthermore HomePod support for third party came out well we know why … law suits in the mix etc etc.

Has an Apple Music subscriber since inception I must say that I had to jump some hoops and loops to keep the service … and required some patience of mine over Apple decisions on this matter (yes not just with iPad OS). Not many third party HI-FI systems supported AirPlay back than for instance and no easy way to enable existing ones. Apple killed its smalll WiFI thingie that allowed connection through the a mini jack …

HomePod Mini sound is … well sound like a 40-50 euros speaker realistically … and HomePod is discontinued (have one of each).

Now, sure Apple Music is well integrated into iOS … yet to be honest I think Apple is doing the minimum for its customers while doing the maximum not to play well with others. Stupid things such as extremely late support for Radio Stations, everything had it years before …. the thing need to be Airplayed all the time.

Recent news kind of gave us a breath of fresh air … to be sucked into our AirPods $$Max$$ (have a pair) … but … we are a long way to have a good solution for home audio that can scale …
The good news … In my opinion still Apple Music offer the best audio quality. With just AAC it can sound better than lossless Tidal … weird right? That is why I’m keeping it.

PS: Not to mention the bricked Homepods not to long ago.
 
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Rychiar said:
I still don't know why any iPhone people have Spotify over Apple Music
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because the apple music UI is so awful i would purposefully exempt from paying for it if spotify would get on the lossless bandwagon.

but AM has the highest fidelity settings and i ultimately care more about the audio quality. but i still use spotify to find new music. both tidal and spotify have much easier UIs to navigate.

apple insists that all of its apps have to use gigantic headers, everything needs to be enormous squares. i’d like to just scroll a list on a pro max screen rather than massive thumbnails. they’re more like palmnails at this point.

if apple would outsource their UI development to a 3rd party, iOS would be a much happier place in the stock app department.
 
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BB8 said:
because it's better
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Is it?

I had Spotify Premium for roughly 6 months.

I switched to Apple Music because of Apple Watch. I liked it, and after 12 months, I got another 12 month subscription.

When Apple One was annouced, I didn’t want to subscribe to AM for another 1 year, and I was still getting AppleTV for free, so I switched to Spotify for 10 months (until this July).

Switched back to Apple Music this July when I subscribed to Apple One.


Apple Music is better for me. I have a diverse taste in music, and Apple Music is far less likely to pigeon-hole me into 2-3 genres that I can’t get out of. Apple Music will still guess what I like, but also point out music that they think is good.

I guess if my music preferences were well-defined, maybe Spotify would be better at predicting music I would enjoy….??? Not sure. Spotify wasn’t good at predicting music for me.

Quite frankly, no matter what I listened to, I couldn’t stop Spotify from recommending “New school RnB” or “Nu Jazz”, even if I want to listen to rap or Ed Sheeran or something. 🤣

And generally, I liked the UI of the Apple Music app more. It’s less messy, and it’s easier to find new releases. Spotify’s “New Music” wasn’t necessarily “new” music. I was stuff they thought was new to you. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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I'm not really worried about this. Siri support for Spotify was the only thing that I needed. I might try AM again one day again but I'm a happy Spotify user since 2013.
 
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Honestly the lack of AirPlay support is why I switched to Apple Music. Now I absolutely love Apple Music and am glad I left Spotify. They made the decision super easy for me!
 
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Rychiar said:
I still don't know why any iPhone people have Spotify over Apple Music
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Because the play lists are way better. And it’s much easier to find music you like and be offered new music that matches what you like.
I have music, Spotify and had Tidal. The UI on Spotify is the best. Music is by far the worst.
 
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