Star Wars VII Spoiler alerts.

[fitshaced]

Force ghost = ghostly apparition of dead Jedi who communicates as though he's still alive.

But what's the point of a force ghost if all they do is remind you to use the force? Surely a Jedi wouldn't even need reminding. They'd just use the force all the time for cooking, shopping, getting free entry to the movies. And then when they are in danger or if they need to blow up a Death Star, they'll get a bit distracted by 'Oi Luke, remember the force'.

 

[Limey77]

So it's muddled up with window dressing except the center piece of this story seems to now be someone's father son who fell down and probably is fighting his long lost cousin. Maybe if they kill off Ren, they can move forward with a clean slate.



Thanks for the info on Force Ghosts.

I don't have an issue with the actor's part in this, following director's orders like a good soldier, outstanding voice, temper tantrums were scary, except he does not seem to have mastered the force as compared to a strong novice, and he's too good looking to be bad. It would have been much better if he had kept his face hidden. I see the good in him.

Maybe Rey will force cast him off a high platform next episode, like she'd flick a bug, into a dark space, except instead of making a big light show like Palpatine, it will be just a little poof. Then we can stop making comparisons to the past and move forward. Ok I promise to stop now.

I think it was great to show his face. It's like a kid saying "ha, ha, this badass mother f***** is me, look how f*****g cool I am. I'm no uncle Luke, I'm no p***y, I'm evil!!!!"

Rey, we'll find out soon has just as much training as Kylo (and is more powerful) and it was this unlocking that enabled her to defeat Kylo.

Personally I loved Rey, but I still wonder if SHE is the actual bad guy for this trilogy.

 

[fitshaced]

Maybe someone can explain this to me. We have the feared planet killer. It drains a sun. To blow up 1 planet. And exposes itself to attack doing this...

When it could just you know....drain the sun and go away. The loss of sun in a system kind of a big deal. Any inhabited worlds will in time feel the effects of this in big ways. Planet killer wasn't killing one planet...its hurting the entire system.


The physics of containing that I won't go into. I can suspend that fact. But the whole we are saved by its death....nope. that planet they were on is now dying. It got that sun to almost darkness. Its not coming back. So technically...we have a draw here.

Rebel base/planet saved from blow up and order down a big ass ship. But given sun almost dead and probably heading to failure real fast...that planet (hell all system planets) is doomed anyway. One deathstar mark III, several planets dead from a soon to be eternal winter lacking needed sun light levels....its ROI may have been met. As militaries kind of accept they will lose tanks and jets. If that jet killed off more in terms of cost than it cost to make...its balances out. ROI met.

Unless there was some plot device that the planet killer put all the suns energy back I missed.

Didn't hate this movie but...the hype train didn't deliver really. train stalled some distance away from the train station. Bar scene was nice. haven't seen a special item meant to be passed on to its heir, calling out to them even, since...Harry Potter? Least Disney nice enough to rehash other movie plots besides theirs and SW. Bonus points for not using the name Tatooine. Shame we got a planet that looked kind of sort of like it though. This we will never know I guess since, well, kind of killed off s

I think they had multiple Suns. They would probably die off eventually or maybe retreat to their planets core waiting for Neo.

 

[Huntn]

I think it was great to show his face. It's like a kid saying "ha, ha, this badass mother f***** is me, look how f*****g cool I am. I'm no uncle Luke, I'm no p***y, I'm evil!!!!"

Rey, we'll find out soon has just as much training as Kylo (and is more powerful) and it was this unlocking that enabled her to defeat Kylo.

Personally I loved Rey, but I still wonder if SHE is the actual bad guy for this trilogy.

You mean a role reversals? Mind blowing.

Maybe someone can explain this to me. We have the feared planet killer. It drains a sun. To blow up 1 planet. And exposes itself to attack doing this...

When it could just you know....drain the sun and go away. The loss of sun in a system kind of a big deal. Any inhabited worlds will in time feel the effects of this in big ways. Planet killer wasn't killing one planet...its hurting the entire system.


The physics of containing that I won't go into. I can suspend that fact. But the whole we are saved by its death....nope. that planet they were on is now dying. It got that sun to almost darkness. Its not coming back. So technically...we have a draw here.

Rebel base/planet saved from blow up and order down a big ass ship. But given sun almost dead and probably heading to failure real fast...that planet (hell all system planets) is doomed anyway. One deathstar mark III, several planets dead from a soon to be eternal winter lacking needed sun light levels....its ROI may have been met. As militaries kind of accept they will lose tanks and jets. If that jet killed off more in terms of cost than it cost to make...its balances out. ROI met.

Unless there was some plot device that the planet killer put all the suns energy back I missed.

Didn't hate this movie but...the hype train didn't deliver really. train stalled some distance away from the train station. Bar scene was nice. haven't seen a special item meant to be passed on to its heir, calling out to them even, since...Harry Potter? Least Disney nice enough to rehash other movie plots besides theirs and SW. Bonus points for not using the name Tatooine. Shame we got a planet that looked kind of sort of like it though. This we will never know I guess since, well, kind of killed off s

I'll earnestly say you've applied too much thought and logic to the movie. Look whose talk'n (me). If the Death Planet could not move around, just how practical was it for all the effort that went into it? I got the feeling it could project it's force a long way, but not beyond a solar system. And as you said, does the plus of killing everything outweigh killing off the usefulness of once profitsble systems?

 

[Limey77]

Maybe someone can explain this to me. We have the feared planet killer. It drains a sun. To blow up 1 planet. And exposes itself to attack doing this...

When it could just you know....drain the sun and go away. The loss of sun in a system kind of a big deal. Any inhabited worlds will in time feel the effects of this in big ways. Planet killer wasn't killing one planet...its hurting the entire system.


The physics of containing that I won't go into. I can suspend that fact. But the whole we are saved by its death....nope. that planet they were on is now dying. It got that sun to almost darkness. Its not coming back. So technically...we have a draw here.

Rebel base/planet saved from blow up and order down a big ass ship. But given sun almost dead and probably heading to failure real fast...that planet (hell all system planets) is doomed anyway. One deathstar mark III, several planets dead from a soon to be eternal winter lacking needed sun light levels....its ROI may have been met. As militaries kind of accept they will lose tanks and jets. If that jet killed off more in terms of cost than it cost to make...its balances out. ROI met.

Unless there was some plot device that the planet killer put all the suns energy back I missed.

Didn't hate this movie but...the hype train didn't deliver really. train stalled some distance away from the train station. Bar scene was nice. haven't seen a special item meant to be passed on to its heir, calling out to them even, since...Harry Potter? Least Disney nice enough to rehash other movie plots besides theirs and SW. Bonus points for not using the name Tatooine. Shame we got a planet that looked kind of sort of like it though. This we will never know I guess since, well, kind of killed off s

You're somewhat incorrect.

The SK Base absorbed the power of the sun of the system it was in (and as you say probably killed that system). Then it uses the power from that sun to destroy every single planet in another system.

Then it moves to that system, absorbs it's sun to destroy the next entire system and so on ad infinitum.

Obviously that's disregarding the actual physics of it, it is only a movie. But the idea is, suck up one sun the destroy another system, then suck up its sun to destroy yet another system, then repeat.

 

[cmichaelb]

I assume you read LOTR? The movies struck me as true to the books, despite some deviations from the story. Some of the locations were real, some minatures, and some CGI. Of course you're free to disagree.



This as distinguished from a regular ghost. I knew he was a spirit, but not that he trained to be a "force ghost" and they have more clarity to communicate with the mortal world as compared to a regular ghost... That makes sense.

Yes, I've read the trilogy many times starting in grade school. My copy of Fellowship fell apart if that tells you anything lol. I use to read the Hobbit every summer break. I hate the movies. Peter Jackson is the equivalent to prequel era George Lucas.

@ghost - I never considered if there were any other type of ghost in SW.

But what's the point of a force ghost if all they do is remind you to use the force? Surely a Jedi wouldn't even need reminding. They'd just use the force all the time for cooking, shopping, getting free entry to the movies. And then when they are in danger or if they need to blow up a Death Star, they'll get a bit distracted by 'Oi Luke, remember the force'.

They do a lot more than that. Obi Wan pointed Luke to Yoda, explain his family history, etc.

 

[Limey77]

You mean a role reversals? Mind blowing.

No, not at all.

Instead someone that could have been great is shown up by his younger relative and feels betrayed. He's always been brought up as Darth Vader's grandson, destined for great things.

Then as a prepubescent kid a younger Girl comes along and kicks his ass in Jedi school. He gets pissed, gets led astray with the whole DV was your granddaddy. So he becomes a petulant, pissed off young adult.

I don't think it's a role reversal, instead I like to think of it like US politics. He's a republican that has been brought up to believe that he is right and then he realises that really he IS on the dark side and is pissy.

Kylo Ren is going to end up being a very worthy successor to DV- different but ultimately at least as good.

 

[fitshaced]

Yes, I've read the trilogy many times starting in grade school. My copy of Fellowship fell apart if that tells you anything lol. I use to read the Hobbit every summer break. I hate the movies. Peter Jackson is the equivalent to prequel era George Lucas.

@ghost - I never considered if there were any other type of ghost in SW.



They do a lot more than that. Obi Wan pointed Luke to Yoda, explain his family history, etc.

Then what's the difference between Obiwan Kenobi as a force ghost and Jur El (father of Superman) after he dies?

 

[decafjava]

Need more information for what happened between VI and VII.

Haven't read the whole thread but saw a few other comments along these lines - so there is a new "official" EU that in addition to the 7 films includes the Clone wars and Rebels cartoons and some novels and comics. Here's an article that outlines what took place between ROTJ and TFA.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-we-know-about-star-wars-post-return-of-the-j-1729549100

I loved the film btw -just good fun and I was really impressed by the new actors myself.

 

[joepunk]

Just saw the movie today. Pretty good even though I noticed it followed "A New Hope" in many ways. Also, I figured out that Han was going to die at the hands of Ren right before they met on the bridge thingy. I'm saddened that it happened but understandable giving Harrison's age. I think we should have had one final moment with Han Solo. Like instead of him falling down the reactor shaft thingy, Chewy goes down to pick Han off the floor of the bridge and manages to bring him to the Falcon.

All of the new characters were wonderful and I loved the humor between them.

 

[hiddenmarkov]

Kylo Ren is going to end up being a very worthy successor to DV- different but ultimately at least as good.

He doesn't ooze fear to me. he seems to come off as fear me....pretty please. And he gets no help from the director. The "mask" voice...sounds more like some stalker perv calling up a random woman asking what are your wearing and trying to mask his voice. If I had to describe how it sounds to me. Not looking to copy James Earl Jones as the voice...but something better than b grade teen horror movie stalker style voice modulation would have been nice.

Now if they ditch the crap voice...and keep old boy in the mask more you could be right. 2 hours and change and I got no menace vibe from him. Where as with Vader not even 10 minutes in we knew he was in a bad ass. Same with Phantom Menace...Sith didn't even speak as I recall. Looked mean, acted mean.

Unless the goal is a new darkside jedi more in the shadows and not blam in your face like vador was. they nailed this as Ren is easily forgettable. As I left the movie I was going the general...he is a serious man and stood out. Then there was this other guy. You know...the one who couldn't easily beat a janitor. The janitor gave as good as got for a good while.

Which raises plot questions to me. Does Ren just suck? Is Luke the jedi master we aren't looking for to teach the new jedi's (his sword fighting classes seem to be lacking based on Rens showing, Obi wan on his first time teaching gig could say yeah I kind of made Darth Vader happen a little...but, at least I taught him to kick some serious ass, right). Will we get another hidden master to teach as a twist from hell in EP 8?

 

[macbook_21]

You must have watched a different movie. If you take out the prequels, the purpose and direction of these films are 100% clear.

Please learn how to read. I wrote "right now." This is a clear reference to TFA and it's myriad problems. There's already an article listing 40 plotholes, and it is far from comprehensive.

This doesn't even touch the issue of the completely and totally recycled storyline.

As far as the prequels, there are 3 of them 3/7 is a significant part of the "storytelling," and clearly the prequels are responsible for a large part of the incoherence and implausibility riddling SW storytelling.

 

[Savor]

Like Michael Jordan said he was 99.9% NOT returning to the NBA after his second retirement (he did so anyway), I believe Han Solo is 99.9% dead. But never tell me the odds.. because you never know?

I find it ironic that during interviews, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher are far more candid and hilarious while Harrison Ford comes off a bit of a grouch and distant. Yet, the Ford twins in Han & Indy are way cooler to enjoy on film than the Skywalker twins.

A flashback of Han Solo would be great though. Something to fill the gaps and make things all the more tragic like the flashback at the end of The Godfather Part II about Michael's future. We know how things turned out when it looked so promising for him.

SW needs Harrison either way as long as he is still alive and banking big bucks on his role. Again, I don't think a Han-less SW with a hand-less Luke Skywalker can ever carrie the film. Luke's character is written opposite to how Mark Hamill is in real life. Same with Carrie. Prudish characters. Han had all the funniest lines in every SW film. Even when he called Finn "Big Deal", the truth about women always finding out the truth.. always, escape now, hug later, and that's not how the Force works, Harrison delivers those lines like vintage Han Solo would. Mark and Carrie had all the crappy dialogue.

Harrison just had that rugged charisma. He had IT. Mark Hamill never had IT in acting. And Mark isn't handsome, before or after the car crash. He never came off as a stud.


LOL at the link below -

The 5 Reasons Luke Skywalker Is A Complete Idiot (posted in 2008)

www.therobotsvoice.com/2008/10/the_5_reasons_luke_skywalker_is_a_complete_idiot.php


Here's the Top 2

2) Throwing Away His Lightsaber in Front of the Emperor

So Luke decides not to put his lightsaber through Darth Vader’s head once he realizes that he’s going along the same dark path as his father. So what does he do next? He tosses away his lightsaber and then proclaims to the Emperor that he is a Jedi. Thus, he has no way to defend himself when the Emperor blasts him with lightning and if it wasn’t for his Father saving his butt (please note how many times Luke gets saved by someone else) he would have been a charred piece of Tatooine bacon. Okay, yes, tossing away the lightsaber makes a definitive statement of renouncing Father-killing, but what did he think would happen other than the Emperor kicking his ***? Did Luke think that perhaps he would proclaim “I am a Jedi, like my father before me,” and the Emperor would suddenly shout “No! You are the purest good! I am nothing in the presence of your light!” and then fling himself backward into the chasm? Why didn’t Luke just try to give the Emperor a big hug and kisses and call him a ‘snookle bear.’ He’s a master of the Dark Side, so of course he’s going to kick your ***. Luke was warned not to underestimate the Emperor…so of course, he does exactly that.

1) Not Joining the Dark Side

No, seriously! Luke gets dumped on his whole life–his adoptive parents get killed, all his friends get injured or killed, the girl he falls in love with turns out to be his sister, his father turns out to be one of the most evil people in the galaxy, his hand gets cut off. Then he gets a chance to co-rule the galaxy. Who wouldn’t take that offer at that point?

What has Luke had to look forward to after the original trilogy? Mostly trying to start up the whole Jedi Order by himself, which is a ton of work, and watching Han have almost constant sex with Leia. Between that and ruling with Vader, it’s not unlike a choice between working in your local library and becoming President. Not really much of a choice there. And you can comment all you want about the Dark Side being a path to pain and suffering and a loss of humanity, but let’s face it–the Dark Side is simply cooler. Members of the Sith have neat custom lightsabers, get to slap everyone around, and just plain look cooler. For Halloween, how many Luke costumes do you see people wearing nowadays? Zero. How many Darth Vader costumes do you see? Still too many to count. Bad is good, baby.


Please, Rian Johnson. For Episode VIII, can the Dark Side win this time? With Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Han all dead, I have nobody to really root for on the good side! Add another death scene, a plot twist, or cliffhanger ending to keep coming back for more and more like an epic TV show "season" finale.


Nice haircut, hero. Han, please come back!

 

[macbook_21]

HFord always thought of George Lucas as a goof and simpleton and never really respected him. Apparently, neither did the rest of the OT SW cast, either.

Harrison always had a strong (an accurate one) sense that he could be more than a one hit wonder associated solely with SW. And history proved that he was right. Ford's impatience to "get it over with" has never been far from the surface in interviews. And IMO, his contempt for Lucas was not only clearly stated but even flouted at times.

To be honest, I tended to agree with Ford after watching Lucas' interviews during the SE SW releases. I just could not jibe how enjoyable and addicting the SW films were with the dunce cap he seemed to be wearing while being interviewed.

Once the prequel films were released, it simply became all too obvious that the SW universe may have worked creatively not because of Lucas, but in spite of him. Once he took complete control, SW went down the toilet creatively.

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Can Solo make a comeback? It's guaranteed that he will. Word is that a spin off film is in the works. But does anyone truly want to see Ford make a comeback, in any form in a future SW proper sequel? He could barely run (waddle?) in Ep. 7. What type of condition is he supposed to return in after being speared in the stomach and falling thousands of feet to his death?

Come on, people, just let it go.

Ford was terrific in Ep.7. He would've been fantastic as a cameo character; even stretched out through the 2nd third of the film, he was still good, but bringing him back AGAIN? No, just no.

Another perhaps not so minor distraction in Ep. 7: the wookie. Peter Mayhew has far too long of a leash (no pun intended) hamming it up as chewie. His mannerisms/body language are now far too "human." His newly frosted blonde locks seems a little silly as well.

Don't get me wrong TFA is a lot of fun. But it's campy, incoherent, schmaltzy and sentimental storytelling. SW is basically chasing it's own tail now, running around in circles going nowhere.

At the very least, we get to see a modern CGI SW film with the original stars. And we are no longer burdened with Lucas at the helm. There's a lot to be grateful for as SW fan, but letting go of any hope of fresh ideas is a prerequisite for re-entry to this particular universe.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Despite quite a few posts to the contrary, I'm pretty sure Han is dead. Here's why.

1. Leia knew through the Force it had happened.
2. Ford doesn't need the cash. He will be the best part of 80 by the time they are filming.
3. For the new characters to grow, the older ones will need to shrink into the background. With Luke having a more prominent role in 8, if Han is still around where would the screen time for Fin/Rey be.
4. How would he get off Starkiller base? Stabbed, fallen (and no spring chicken), his only allies had left. For him to crawl to a tie-fighter and fly himself would be a miracle.

I'll miss Han, and there will be the seperate movie where he might appear as having a flashback, but I'd rather remember him as he was, not hobbling around.
The Han spin off movie will stand or fall on the actor they choose. He will have a hard act to follow.

 

[Huntn]

Don't get me wrong TFA is a lot of fun. But it's campy, incoherent, schmaltzy and sentimental storytelling. SW is basically chasing it's own tail now, running around in circles going nowhere.

At the very least, we get to see a modern CGI SW film with the original stars. And we are no longer burdened with Lucas at the helm. There's a lot to be grateful for as SW fan, but letting go of any hope of fresh ideas is a prerequisite for re-entry to this particular universe.

Hits nail on head. Bolded and enlarged is what I find myself focused on, actions that IMO cheapen this new entry. Right now, discussing the pros and cons of Episode 7, it's hard to slide that away into a closet.

Regarding The director, I saw in his second Star Trek film, the desire to relive the past. Except that was in the realm of a reboot, while SWs Ep7 is a new chapter. It was not supposed to be a reboot, but maybe he treated it as such, lets juggle things a bit while telling a variation of the original story. Disregarding the squeaky wheels, there are enough fans who have accepted this path.

 

[AustinIllini]

Please learn how to read. I wrote "right now." This is a clear reference to TFA and it's myriad problems. There's already an article listing 40 plotholes, and it is far from comprehensive.

This doesn't even touch the issue of the completely and totally recycled storyline.

As far as the prequels, there are 3 of them 3/7 is a significant part of the "storytelling," and clearly the prequels are responsible for a large part of the incoherence and implausibility riddling SW storytelling.

You take things so personally. Just admit you don't like the movie, andlearn you aren't going change anyone's mind.

And that plot holes article is garbage. It assumes
1) There is no Star Wars cannon
2) Anything that happens by coincidence is a plot hole
3) Rey isn't force sensitive

 

[citizenzen]

But wait, during the final battle Kylo Ren has trouble in a lightsaber battle with Finn. What? Finn was a janitor for the First Order who has never used a lightsaber before yesterday. How can this force user have trouble with him?

And if you want to argue Chewie injured him, that’s fair. But for a trained force user shouldn’t be a big deal. In fact, the first scene in the movie Kylo Ren stopped a shot from Poe Dameron without really looking. How did Chewie get the jump on him? I don’t know, I just want some consistency.

And then, of course, Rey gets the better of Kylo Ren in a battle after Rey just discovered she has the Force. So a force user trained by Luke Skywalker is overcome by someone who just gained her force powers? Ok, sure. But that’s a whole other issue with the movie.

Well, Kylo was afraid that he'd never be as strong as Darth Vader ... and apparently for good reason. Somebody needs to replay for him the fight between Vader and Obiwan Kenobi in the in the lava to show how one fights while injured.

You're somewhat incorrect.

The SK Base absorbed the power of the sun of the system it was in (and as you say probably killed that system). Then it uses the power from that sun to destroy every single planet in another system.

Then it moves to that system, absorbs it's sun to destroy the next entire system and so on ad infinitum.

Obviously that's disregarding the actual physics of it, it is only a movie. But the idea is, suck up one sun the destroy another system, then suck up its sun to destroy yet another system, then repeat.

And a planet moving from system to system is acceptable as a concept?

Star Wars must be occurring in a very, very small galaxy ... far, far, away.

 

[Huntn]

Well, Kylo was afraid that he'd never be as strong as Darth Vader ... and apparently for good reason. Somebody needs to replay for him the fight between Vader and Obiwan Kenobi in the in the lava to show how one fights while injured.



And a planet moving from system to system is acceptable as a concept?

Star Wars must be occurring in a very, very small galaxy ... far, far, away.

Great point. What propels it and can it jump to light speed? Otherwise it would be some very very very long transit times, unless there are some jump gates around.

 

[AustinIllini]

And a planet moving from system to system is acceptable as a concept?

Star Wars must be occurring in a very, very small galaxy ... far, far, away.

Let's be clear: It's a very small planet. The original Death Star was described as a "small moon". The size comparison made in the film indicates that this is, at best, a very small planet. If the original Death Star was mobile, then I have no problem suspending the belief that SKB could be moved three decades later.

 

[cmichaelb]

Then what's the difference between Obiwan Kenobi as a force ghost and Jur El (father of Superman) after he dies?

Isn't Jor El a computer program essentially, he uploaded his knowledge into the computer on Kal's ship? I don;t know, I'm a geek, but not that geeky LOL.

 

[AustinIllini]

Isn't Jor El a computer program essentially, he uploaded his knowledge into the computer on Kal's ship? I don;t know, I'm a geek, but not that geeky LOL.

Correct. Jor El and OBW as plot devices are similar, but in terms of actual logistics, they are completely different.

 

[citizenzen]

Let's be clear: It's a very small planet. The original Death Star was described as a "small moon". The size comparison made in the film indicates that this is, at best, a very small planet. If the original Death Star was mobile, then I have no problem suspending the belief that SKB could be moved three decades later.

The Earth is 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons

An aircraft carrier is 64,000 metric tons.

(Just to give a sense of scale)

And if the technology exists to move planets at great speeds and long distances, why didn't the Republic just move their planet out of the way of the death ray (or whatever you call it).

Heck, in the next movie they can skip having spaceships chase each other around the galaxy and instead have whole planets zipping around.

 

[AustinIllini]

The Earth is 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons

An aircraft carrier is 64,000 metric tons.

(Just to give a sense of scale)

And if the technology exists to move planets at great speeds and long distances, why didn't the Republic just move their planet out of the way of the death ray (or whatever you call it).

Heck, in the next movie they can skip having spaceships chase each other around the galaxy and instead have whole planets zipping around.

Expense.

The movie makes it clear that a great deal of its manpower is slave labor. Finn makes that clear when he talks about storm troopers.

Neither the Republic nor the Resistance by this time period relied heavily on slave labor as far as I can tell.

And the size of the earth is irrelevant as the technology to move "small moon" size space stations exists in the cannon.

 

[Apple fanboy]

The Earth is 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons

An aircraft carrier is 64,000 metric tons.

(Just to give a sense of scale)

And if the technology exists to move planets at great speeds and long distances, why didn't the Republic just move their planet out of the way of the death ray (or whatever you call it).

Heck, in the next movie they can skip having spaceships chase each other around the galaxy and instead have whole planets zipping around.

I'd assume that the StarKiller base has been equipped for moving with some form of propulsion and at great cost.
I think that would be out of reach for most other systems.

Plus then we would miss out on the great Millennium Falcon chase scenes!