I think he is a good actor, also witty and intelligent. So stop slagging him off.
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Stephen Fry Profiles the iPad and Steve Jobs for Time Magazine
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I think he is a good actor, also witty and intelligent. So stop slagging him off.
You don't need a new mbp, it is already good enough for what you need, software, internet connection yes, but mbp is already good enough.
One of my many reasons for selling my iMac, which I had tried to use as a workstation for the past 2.5 years and was still under AppleCare, was that Apple wouldn't even support latest Bootcamp, i.e. Windows 7, on it. Or 64 bit Vista. (Or 64 bit OS X.)
I could get most things working with manual driver installs (it just works!), but some niggling problems confirmed that no checking had been done by Apple. For example, the USB keyboard would not work when the power button was used to wake the machine from sleep.
Sure, people would halo effect purchase Macs with Windows 7 installed. They might even make the mistake of expecting the level and longevity of hardware and software support of, say, Dell on even their low end business systems. Or hope for the support in-house IT or a small consultancy can give when it arrives on-site same day to replace standard parts.
Apple support is better than much consumer support but barely exists when contrasted with most business support. Anyone using PCs seriously pays for the latter in terms of models and service.
I defend your right to voice your standards. But can you imagine telling the cheeky yet grounded Footlights debutant that, 30 years hence, he'd make his living as the sincere caricature of the man who's smarter than you? The early '80s enjoyed an ocean of entertainment talent on the BBC, as the nascent personal computing marketplace was a thriving pond of entrepreneurial and tech wizards, ya dig?gathart said:
I remember those dark days well. We kept the faith, knowing that some day the clouds would be gone and there would be sunshine. Now life is good. I want to break into a song and dance routine, while all the haters look on in impotent disgust, shaking their heads.
That's funny because on my 2008 Mac Pro I had zero problems getting Windows 7 installed on it's own hard drive. Most people that have Boot Camp problems had hard disk drives that needed repairing for the partitioning.
Is that you, Mr. Fry? If it is, does that mean that you have less time for Twitter and maintaining a false image of a dandy?
Jobs is undeniably a shrewd businessman, but it's sad that "shrewd businessman" is confused with "genius" so easily, by so many.
OK that's great, but a 2008 Mac Pro is by definition under 2.5 years old and supported by Bootcamp. Also it's more expensive than any sane business would consider paying for, unless maybe it has specific need for that sort of horsepower.
I'm fairly sure my hard drive didn't "need repairing", although I've come to expect needing magic to do things on a Mac. For example, I had to rebuild the DVD before the Mac would boot it (the well-known "Select CD-ROM Boot Type" problem). Just Worked[tm] on my homebrew PC.
In what way? He's a good marketer of consumer gadgets.
No, that was simply an example of the real changes that those other people could make. PMs and Presidents make decisions every day that can and do shape the future for *generations* of people in the world with respect to their socioeconomic status and livelihood. To say that something like an iPod or iPad is on par with making decisions that could lead entire countries to war or create peace in the middle east is completely ridiculous.
Additionally, if you're idea of really accomplishing something is the iPad, it saddens me to see how far consumerism has gone.
Yeah, and a steak and a hot dog are both pieces of meat.
Interestingly, the $1500 HP laptop sitting in front of me (employer-supplied) is not even in the same galaxy as a MacBook Pro, in build quality, features, looks, or user enjoyment. And the MacBook Pro is only a couple hundred bucks more.
I guess I'll choose Apple's "PCs" if given the choice (even if I have to pay).
Dell should be the textbook model of how to destroy your own brand in a pointless quest for market share.
Actually, Toyota has done a pretty good job of that too.
I see there's a bit of a feud going on up there over Fry. For the record, I never found him daring enough to be interesting. Burrows on the other hand is a fine example of a contemporary and exciting intellect.
Fry just, draws mild amusement.
Fry just, draws mild amusement.
That statement says you don't know much about the man...at all.
Don't focus on the gadgets, focus on what they enable people to do and how they improve their lives.
As far as your apparent worship of politicos, just because they make decisions that affect people, doesn't mean they do a good job of it. In fact, it's almost unheard of.
I'm fairly sure this is blasphemy - where I come from, anyway. While Section 79 the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act of 2008 has cleared the explicit ban thereon (finally), you might fall foul of the Racial and Religious Hatred Act of 2006. So many restrictions of freedom of speech in one page! Must consult more lawyers.
Great! Which one do you want?
The 15" has constant fan noise and a faulty graphics chip, the 13" unibody got actually replaced by a 13" unibody Pro that has CPU whine and again, various noises... Sorry, but I sold the Air. The loose hinge and the noise drove me mad.
About your point about Dell... I think that applies to Apple too. Ask the guys, how many would want a 27" iMac, for example.
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Indeed. Apple once knew how to build hardware - more precisely, Apple once built hardware. If I could be bothered, I'd raise you with a pic of my G3 Wallstreet, which suffered a casing corner smash in shipping but had chugged along as a random laptop to a few years ago, and still works fine. Oh, and nearly everything in it is easy to replace!
Also, I like classic Mac OS enough to boot it up occasionally (although it used XPostFacto and OS X up to Tiger in its time, and there's SheepShaver on the PC). It's as stable as any contemporaneous OS, and actually adheres to Apple's principles of usability and uniformity.
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Nice article. I love Steve's love and passion for Apple. He can make any company great. Microsoft failed so hard at anything new. I think the most innovative product they made was the "Big-Ass-Table" for $10,000.
Nice article. I love Steve's love and passion for Apple. He can make any company great. Microsoft failed so hard at anything new. I think the most innovative product they made was the "Big-Ass-Table" for $10,000.
Oh please. Every manufacturer has its lemons. But the Dells and HPs are lemons by design. Even the ones that work perfectly still suck.
Dell: Even When You Win, You Lose (TM)
Me, no problems here with my 3-year-old MacBook or my 24" iMac (and my dad's new 27" iMac is a beaut (and the screen is perfect too). The other two iMacs in my house (the older white plastic ones) are still running like champs too, several years later. I'm not hearing any gripes for anyone else I know who has bought a Mac (laptop or desktop) recently either.
Maybe Apple sends you the bad ones just to annoy you?
Maybe you should've used that Torrent with the MacPro 2008 drivers for BootCamp. Did some good on my iMac about 2 years ago (using Vista Ultimate 64bit as OEM).
Oh please. Every manufacturer has its lemons. But the Dells and HPs are lemons by design. Even the ones that work perfectly still suck.
Dell: Even When You Win, You Lose (TM)
Me, no problems here with my 3-year-old MacBook or my 24" iMac (and my dad's new 27" iMac is a beaut (and the screen is perfect too). The other two iMacs in my house (the older white plastic ones) are still running like champs too, several years later. I'm not hearing any gripes for anyone else I know who has bought a Mac (laptop or desktop) recently either.
Maybe Apple sends you the bad ones just to annoy you?
No, they don't. The overheating/fan and hinge problem on the Air is widespread. So is the graphics card issue on the 15" one. I haven't looked about the 13" Pro, but I forgot to mention the 13" MB's crooked keyboard. I went through three or four as they all had their keys all over the place. That might have been an early shipment at the first unibody launch.
Percentage please? Consumer Reports and JD Powers survey results seem to disagree with your assertion of "widespread" crappy Apple hardware quality.
And my own experience over many Macs disagrees with you as well. I had a squeaky hinge on an iBook once (fixed by Apple for free), a DOA HD on a Mac Mini (fixed by Apple for free), and one of the MacBook batteries from the bad batch that stopped taking a charge (replaced by Apple for free even after my warranty expired) but that's about it.
Apple still makes the best computers on the market, and the customer feedback shows it.
The MBA hinges are getting loose and they break. Do a quick search on 'hinge' here, on MR.
Check issues with the white plastic CrackBooks, prior to the upgrade (I've had one of the first C2D ones). I had AppleCare, so getting the bezel, case, keyboard replaced. When I actually sold that before the unibodies came out, I was told by Apple that they also found a USB port that failed.
Satisfaction surveys are not showing a lot of disappointment about long-term defects and poor designs. They don't either showed my dissatisfaction about Apple's 'Geniuses', not being able to help me with a fairly basic Automator and Terminal issue.
My point stands about manufacturers sacrificing quality for volume and market share.
Of course every problem is going to show up here in the forums. Is that indicative of "widespread" problems? I don't know. You don't know.
See above.
Google "Dell hinge problems" or "HP hinge crack" for some perspective.
Interesting. I wonder why?
Welcome to retail. Actually, welcome to computer support. My IT people can't answer my questions/issues most of the time either. I've learned not to ask - less painful.
The joys of mass manufacturing. But I'll take a current MacBookPro over one of Apple's laptops of yesterday any day of the week. Seriously, a unibody laptop water cut from a solid block of aluminum? Yeah, find something better. I'd love some examples of more solidly built PC laptops than the MBP. My HP EliteBook 6930p definitely ain't it (nor the craptastic Compaq I had before it). I use the $1,500 range enterprise models and they suck. I can imagine how "great" the $600 models from Best Buy are.
You have your ThinkPad line, and that's about it (though they're not like they used to be). Panasonic ToughBook?