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Lol. Apple may have paid Xerox to learn about their GUI they had developed but theres no doubt that Apple took advantage and made millions in the long run for the thousands that Xerox got paid. It was a very poor management decision on Xerox's side and the poor developers got screwed over after making something they never got full credit for. The developers knew this would be disastrous but they had no say in it.

Xerox received a significant amount of Apple shares at that time. Had they kept them, they would have been worth a few billion dollars today.
 
Regarding Flash: I see his point, and he's right, half the time Safari crashes it's because of a Flash plugin. Though, to be fair, I'm not sure if that's Flash's fault, or Safari's...

The refusal to adopt Flash on the iPhone and now the iPad is obviously his attempt to kill it. Remember when the iMac was the first mainstream computer to ship with NO floppy drive at all? I remember how crazy and restrictive that seemed to everyone, but it turned out to be a prophetic move (and it could well have been a self-fulfilling prophecy, as it were).

I think the keynote demo that plainly and obviously featured a broken Flash plugin was definitely intentional and not an "oops" by Steve -- these things are rehearsed so carefully, and he did it twice. The recent update of the iPad video to include the broken plugin seems like an unusual move, until you realize that Apple is sending a message. "See this, guys? We are NOT going to support this, so you guys out there had better just get used to it. Content creators, you'd better find something else or you will alienate millions of iPhone/iPad users." It's ballsy, but it will likely work -- in the interest of reaching as many of their audience as possible, website creators will start looking at other options.

Remember that when most people visit XYZ company and see the broken plugin, they're not going to think "Darned Apple, not supporting Flash plugins", they're going to think "Darned XYZ company, their website is broken." Regardless, whoever they blame for it, if the Flash object was a functional part of the website, then this customer is stuck and won't be able to browse or buy or whatever. That's going to be XYZ's loss, and they're going to want to do something about it.

As for the comment about Blu-Ray... I don't get it. Tons of people have Blu-Ray players or PS3's. They're as cheap as DVD's now. What more do you want, Steve?!

Nice post - I agree with you 100%.
 
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How is what Google is doing undermining Apple? Because they are trying to make a better product and rely on their services vs Apple's? I don't understand your thinking here. What is illegal? Apple seems scared itself to ask Google not to implement multitouch in the native Nexus One apps. I'm sure Google wants to get along with Apple, but Mr. Stevo never seems to get that and tries to smash the competition (nothing wrong with that). I think you have your companies flip-flopped.

It's a comment about Steve's statement regarding Google. Read more carefully. I did not say that anything being done is illegal, I'm saying that IF companies try to take actions to undermine their competitors rather than just make a good competing product, they will begin to travel down the road to underhanded, immoral and illegal activity. You need look no farther than M$ to see an example of how that happens. I also included Apple in my comment that companies need to play respectably. Time will tell if Google just want to make a good phone or if they want to try to undermine Apple. There are differences in behavior and actions. We'll see.
 
Man, that's so 1990's!

BRING IT ON!!!!!!! :)

  • GOOGLE AND ITS ROTTEN SNAKE MALICIOUS, FURTIVE, DECEITFUL, UNDERHANDED, DISHONEST, DEVIOUS, SURREPTITIOUS, UNTRUSTWORTHY CEO.... I HOPE APPLE SLAMS THEM AND I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP APPLE KILL OFF GOOGLE :)
  • ADOBE IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF CLOSET APPLE LOVING LAZY COMPLAINERS, THEY NEED TO REALIZE THAT APPLE WILL NOT LOWER THERE STANDARDS FOR FLASH... APPLE HAS TRIED FOR YEARS TO WORK WITH THEM BUT TO NO AVAIL :(
  • PERSONALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW OS A+ UPDATE COMING IN MARCH!!! MARCH EVENT IS COMING GUYS ;) ... EXPECT APPLE TO ANNOUNCE A NEW "APPLE MAPS" OR "iMAP" TO REPLACE THAT STUPID GOOGLE MAPS... GOOGLE BARELY DOES SEARCH GOOD ... GOOGLE CAN FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET FOR ALL I CARE... THE BETRAYED THE WRONG CEO & COMPANY
  • NO COMMENT FOR ITUNES
  • BRING ON THE MAC PRO & NEW NOTEBOOKS!!! I'M READY FOR 12-CORES :D
  • BLU-RAY IS JUST A "BAG OF HURT" GUYS GET OVER IT!!! NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL

OUR PIRATE IS BACK AND HE IS FIRED UP!!!! WHOOOOOTT!!!


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I haven't seen any post recently that would look SO Windows... ('95) :D Man, you are on the wrong platform. Also, we will still read your post if you use normal letters.
 
I'm not buying any more Mac's if they come with 2GB of ram.....booo hooo fsckin hoo to you.

mummy i want an ice-cream booo hoo hoo hooo

:D I just read back and feared my post might come across like that :D

It's not meant to. I love my current old Mini for what it does (Media computer uner the TV) and my new MBP. Don't really need blu-ray in the Macbook.

But If I'm forking out for the Apple Premium - and the computers last 4-5 years for me, I'm gonna want blu-ray within that time frame. I'm not 'demanding' Apple add BR right now - just I can't justify a purchase without those sort of features.

I know Lord Jobs would prefer us to just download from iTunes - but that's not gonna happen for a long time for HD content - at least not here in the UK.
 
Jobs has a point about FLASH™. But, is the alternative truly better? If the alternative is easier to process, easier to use, and uses less space, FLASH will go the way of the dinosaur within a few years.

Wow... Steve spoke and you all drank the Kool Aid lol...

Nexus One is already better than the iPhone and the argument can also be made for the droid. Everything about those phones is better, save the app store. I think the App store has something like 10,000 more farting apps.

There were a LOT of "better" mp3 players for less when the iPod came along.

There was a reason the iPod succeeded beyond them. It had nothing to do with being a "better" piece of hardware, it had to do with having better software.

Learn your history. Learn about the market. Be realistic.

Apple understands the market very very well. They know what they need to succeed. Can others do it better? Sure. Let's see them do it. If another company provided a truly better overall product experience from hardware to software to reliability and organization with simplicity of use, I am sure they will exceed.
 
It's a comment about Steve's statement regarding Google. Read more carefully. I did not say that anything being done is illegal, I'm saying that IF companies try to take actions to undermine their competitors rather than just make a good competing product, they will begin to travel down the road to underhanded, immoral and illegal activity. You need look no farther than M$ to see an example of how that happens. I also included Apple in my comment that companies need to play respectably. Time will tell if Google just want to make a good phone or if they want to try to undermine Apple. There are differences in behavior and actions. We'll see.

again, what might Google be doing to undermine apple?
 
Well Adobe got a result - it made so much noise on these forums and the net over the last few days that Steve has now made it very clear that it's absolutely pointless in supporting it or developing for it anymore.

At least you know!
 
Jobs is saying saying "Support HTML5 if you want to support the iPhone". The iPhone browser market is huge. But if IE doesn't support it (I'm sure it will if IE8 doesn't already), it won't see a huge adoption anyway).

It's cat and mouse, chicken and egg tactics.
 
"Dear Steve

As an avid Mac user and owner, please get your head out of your ass on the Flash and BlueRay situation. 10's of millions of people use them at the moment, so support the fecking software! If HTML5 wins long term, good, but it is not that way today."

I hope Apple's success is not going to turn to total arrogance, it will be the death of them if so....

It's your head that reeks from where it is or has been.

Steve's view is of a much bigger picture than yours. He is both in the position to and has the obligation to decide what is best for the company based on that and based on his innate creative talent to predict the future.

Ordinary people such as you rarely know best, despite your respective convictions of such.

As much as I love and use Adobe products on a daily basis, it definitely does need to get off its lazy butt and fix up Flash for Apple users. Steve's Flash decision is far more pragmatic than emotional. This is not some grade school pissing match. Apple and Adobe are far more friends and partners than they are competitors.

The fact that most Apple customers won't know or care why their Apple products crash means that, if Flash is frequently the culprit, that Adobe needs to fix it before Apple allows it on its products.
 
MockBook

Already done. That's what the Modbook is.

Been on sale for 3 years and i haven't herd anyone even mention it til yesterday.

Yes, but that's only, because it runs OS X. If it was running Windows, some people on this site would slag it off like hell!

But I agree that the ModBook represents a niche market. I don't think that you could sell many tablets with a full desktop OS.


LOL. IE is going the way of the dodo.

And people using Windows (90%) will switch to Safari for Windows, because it's SOOO good! :)
 
I haven't seen any post recently that would look SO Windows... ('95) :D Man, you are on the wrong platform. Also, we will still read your post if you use normal letters.

No that's VINTAGE STEVE!! The iPad is like what steve had the first mac be. "A DEVICE WHERE YOU CAN JUST TURN ON AND USE WITHOUT ANY INSTRUCTIONS, APPLE ALSO CONTROLS THE WHAT WE WILL HAVE ON THE iPad just like the 1st Mac"

Steve is back man!!!! "This whole DONT BE EVIL MANTRE ...... IT'S bulls%^&t" - Steve Jobs I'm shocked arn didn't post all of steve comments that wired had reported
 
"Apple will deliver aggressive updates to iPhone that Android/Google won't be able to keep up with." - Better make it quick Steve, your competitors aren't exactly sitting around. The yearly refresh cycle probably isn't going to cut it anymore.

I think the yearly update does cut it, but only on one condition: they have to include MAJOR upgrades every year.. no "ahh let's add a better camera, video and this and that to exactly the same device" situations.
I think Apple could have done a better job with their last iPhone upgrade. I know this could be an 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' kind of thing, but I don't think this attitude works in the mobile phone market. people want features.. more and more... mobile phones have almost become 'disposable'. you get your phone with a contract. when the contract is over, you get a new phone with a new contract..
 
Well Adobe got a result - it made so much noise on these forums and the net over the last few days that Steve has now made it very clear that it's absolutely pointless in supporting it or developing for it anymore.

At least you know!

Exactly. And that's how the mafia works in Italy. By giving public "messages" that everyone can "understand". Capisc'?
 
As much as I love and use Adobe products on a daily basis, it definitely does need to get off its lazy butt and fix up Flash for Apple users.

The only way it will do that is to develop flash so it can't be used to pirate games, apps, music or movies.

Apples decision is to protect its app store, developers and media partners.

If apple does not protect the investment by app developers, they will not earn as much and will not develop as much.

Apple is the security guard inside the festival stopping people selling bootleg merchandise.

Piracy proof software - that is what the app store is built on.
 
As much as I love and use Adobe products on a daily basis, it definitely does need to get off its lazy butt and fix up Flash for Apple users.

Complete agree with Steve's Adobe jibe but disapprove his mission to exclude it. The only loser here is the customer.
 
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