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Steve Jobs Ranked World's 110th Richest Person With Net Worth of $8.3 Billion

cvaldes said:
It's likely that Steve Jobs is donating anonymously.

It's actually a more efficient use of time. You can focus on your specific interests, cut a few checks and say, "keep it quiet." Once you donate publicly, you have to fend off other organizations asking why you won't donate to them.

Knowing Steve's personality, it's perfectly credible that he has implemented a "no-tell" policy for charitable contributions for optimum efficiency. It keeps things elegantly simple.
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It's also likely you are talking out of your a** with nothing to back you up whatsoever.

Sure, an ego-maniac like Jobs would do something anonymously. Just like he gave Woz all the credit for actually building the computers and writing the first ever GUI. :rolleyes:
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
it's also likely you are talking out of your a** with nothing to back you up whatsoever.

Sure, an ego-maniac like jobs would do something anonymously. Just like he gave woz all the credit for actually building the computers and writing the first ever gui. :rolleyes:
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poor record.

If often rubs me the wrong way that he has such a poor record on charity. And no, he doesn't do anything significant in secrecy, and he doesn't let his company do anything in a meaningful way either...

But worse that being a tightwad in terms of money, I have a different bone to pick...

He's an absolutely brilliant, motivational leader. So why couldn't he at some point have dedicated a little of that gift to inspiring a team to solve a real problem. i.e. the world's lack of clean drinking water, or something similiar.

It won't be long before the iphone4 looks as aged and dusty as an Apple IIe Both will be judged as worthwhile contributions, but they really pale to what could have been accomplished, and what really matters.
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
It's also likely you are talking out of your a** with nothing to back you up whatsoever.

Sure, an ego-maniac like Jobs would do something anonymously. Just like he gave Woz all the credit for actually building the computers and writing the first ever GUI. :rolleyes:
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actually he never took credit for any of that personally...
 
Gaelinic said:
Yet he doesn't give a dime away. He is still regarded as one of the worst billionaire philanthropists. He eliminated corporate philanthropy when he took over in 1997. He may be a visionary and industrial leader. However, he is a poor leader if he is not willing to speak about charity.
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And what have you done? Who are you to say how he should spend money he earned? And he has given away plenty. But he does not brag about it. I just love how people can point a finger and blame someone when they have no idea what really goes on.
 
scott911 said:
If often rubs me the wrong way that he has such a poor record on charity. And no, he doesn't do anything significant in secrecy, and he doesn't let his company do anything in a meaningful way either...
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What are you talking about. He and his company do everything in secrecy.

or we are just really out of the loop here? So what's going to be in iOS5 and iPhone 5? you seems to know a lot about Apple and Steve Jobs.
 
camelsnot said:
and an ego to match.

Say what you will about Microsoft and Gates, but he does offer up a lot of his money and time to charities (including establishing his own). it is a shame $teve doesn't share that same enthusiasm for helping his fellow man, but in the end he's more concerned with running a tight ship and checking his bank account each night. But hey.. people seem to still love him and his products, so being selfish and egotistical does pay off.

I'll be buying an ipad2 tomorrow, along with others, in a bid to get him at least in the top 100 before he croaks. YOU CAN DO IT STEVE!!! :apple:
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Steve doesn't take a salary from Apple, nor does he publicize his charitable contributions.

It's none of our business, Gates tells us how much he donates to charity so we can all regard him as this great philanthropist..

Just because Steve doesn't go out of his way to draw positive attention to himself, doesn't meet we should meet him with negative attention.
 
scott911 said:
If often rubs me the wrong way that he has such a poor record on charity. And no, he doesn't do anything significant in secrecy, and he doesn't let his company do anything in a meaningful way either...

But worse that being a tightwad in terms of money, I have a different bone to pick...

He's an absolutely brilliant, motivational leader. So why couldn't he at some point have dedicated a little of that gift to inspiring a team to solve a real problem. i.e. the world's lack of clean drinking water, or something similiar.

It won't be long before the iphone4 looks as aged and dusty as an Apple IIe Both will be judged as worthwhile contributions, but they really pale to what could have been accomplished, and what really matters.
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Well said.

People here say he 'changed the world'. With what? A 5% share of the computer market and consumer gadgets?? Are you serious?

When Apple's moment of glory is over (it happens to EVERY company), Jobs will be a caricature and have no legacy. Not one human helped in any meaningful way.

He doesn't even encourage people to become organ donors, of which HE was a beneficiary. What a joke.

:apple: He'll find out this year that he really can't take his $8b with him. :apple:
 
shartypants said:
He does seem to be really tight with money, he also doesn't give dividends to shareholders, opting to save the money for something. Maybe he wishes to contribute to the world simply by creating great products (giving some iPad 2s away to our hurting schools would be nice). I have a ton of respect for Steve but do wonder why he doesn't do more for charity.
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iPads are not going to help failing schools. Parents being involved will. The board decides on dividends. Steve does many things regarding charity. However, he does not brag about it.
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
It's also likely you are talking out of your a** with nothing to back you up whatsoever.

Sure, an ego-maniac like Jobs would do something anonymously. Just like he gave Woz all the credit for actually building the computers and writing the first ever GUI. :rolleyes:
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There's a tax benefit to donating, particularly if you donate appreciated investments since you get two tax breaks: the amount of the donation itself plus the avoidance of tax on the unrealized capital gains.

Also, remember that he's married and his wife may actually be more involved in the donations. The Jobs family has donated to political campaigns, so it is highly likely that they are also involved in charitable contributions to non-profits. His wife has a heavy focus in education and sits on the board of directors of KQED, NorCal's flagship PBS affiliate (she's a board member of several other education-related organizations).

Remember, Bill Gates was notoriously stingy until his mother (and probably his wife Melinda) told him to be more generous. The family factor is real.

While I admit that I know nothing of his personal finances, people in his income bracket typically donate, particularly to the arts.

Note that if you look at the major donors for any prominent art organization, there are a number of anonymous donors, even at the highest level. Go to the San Francisco Symphony, Opera, Ballet, Stanford Lively Arts, etc. and pick up a program.
 
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scott911 said:
If often rubs me the wrong way that he has such a poor record on charity. And no, he doesn't do anything significant in secrecy, and he doesn't let his company do anything in a meaningful way either...

But worse that being a tightwad in terms of money, I have a different bone to pick...

He's an absolutely brilliant, motivational leader. So why couldn't he at some point have dedicated a little of that gift to inspiring a team to solve a real problem. i.e. the world's lack of clean drinking water, or something similiar.

It won't be long before the iphone4 looks as aged and dusty as an Apple IIe Both will be judged as worthwhile contributions, but they really pale to what could have been accomplished, and what really matters.
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What about NO RECORD?

Everybody here claiming that he doesn't donate anything is really talking out of that South body opening.

Again, present his tax return or shut up!

Asking people who have money to solve real problems is IMO ridiculous.

For starters they made that money by concentrating on THEIR business.

Charity is a business with many facets. There are people being hired to run charities.
How could anybody do a good job running several companies and being as involved in details as Steve is?
 
rovex said:
He's a billionaire, but dresses in clothes that are too big for him and has no fashion sense whatsoever.

question is, why? Got the money, spend it on looking decent at least.
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http://www.vg.no/teknologi/artikkel.php?artid=189237

At least he bothered to wear a suit when Al Gore accepted his Nobel Prize.

Although, a suit is not very flattering to his body type :p
The "American Ascetic" look fits him IMO.
 
Gaelinic said:
Yet he doesn't give a dime away. He is still regarded as one of the worst billionaire philanthropists. He eliminated corporate philanthropy when he took over in 1997. He may be a visionary and industrial leader. However, he is a poor leader if he is not willing to speak about charity.
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I actually think Steve Jobs is a lot less greedy than most. He could take a much larger salary from Apple like Bill Gates did with MS.

At least he produces a product(s) that a lot of people love. Unlike the greedy bastards on Wall Street.
 
One wonders what his ranking would be if SEC returned his stock options revoked and simply repriced them to whatever they claim would have been right. Probably 10-20 points higher.

SEC let plenty of firms use accounting practices known as "Generally Accepted Practices" or GAP to set options prices for supplementary benefits for key employees. The practices were in fact common and used by a wide range of firms.

SEC then arbitrarily decided to enforce against those firms. Apple included, by saying they mis-priced the options despite complying with GAP.

The typical arbitrary regulator mind-change would simply result in a repricing and restatement, but this time around they decided to gain political points and notariety for the government agency itself by surprise enforcing against GAP. More to the point going right to criminal threats and complaints rather than giving notice to adjust and comply.

These jack boot and selective enforcement tactics seem to be common near changes in Presidential administrations to attack friends of the other party. Jobs has a prominent Democrat on his board named Al Gore who was present during the scandal.

Rocketman - CA - R
 
Wow!

Jobs:
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Can't buy health.
$8.3 billion and he's got 109 people ahead of him!?!

Gates:
$28 billion siphoned off to buy back his soul. He's being to miserly.
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
It's also likely you are talking out of your a** with nothing to back you up whatsoever.
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Nothing to back him up? He gave some decent points, or at least plausible explanations.

I could say that you also didn't give anything to back your conclusion up, or to counter his, but you did, as silly as it might be.

Sure, an ego-maniac like Jobs would do something anonymously.
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I've never thought of Jobs as an ago-maniac. I don't know if I've ever heard him talk about all the great things HE has done personally, only what Apple has done. He strikes me more like a Mom who spills all kinds of positive talk about her kids, regardless of how warped her perspective is. But no one calls a Mom an ego-maniac because she thinks her kids are the greatest in the world.

Just like he gave Woz all the credit for actually building the computers and writing the first ever GUI. :rolleyes:
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And AFAIK he has never taken credit for these, unless it was to say "Apple did it", which is entirely true... Unless you count the bit about the GUI. Apple may have been the first to market and sell such a feature, but Woz was hardly the first to write one.
 
aughsum said:
Gates tells us how much he donates to charity so we can all regard him as this great philanthropist..
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This is because Bill Gates is trying to buy back his soul. He did a tremendous amount of damage to society, actual evil even. Gates, like Rockerfeller and others before him, now is realizing that he made his money by hurting people. Bill wants to be remembered well so he's spending money lavishly to create foundations that will put his name up in the big lights, the good lights. It's a scam.
 
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