I haven't bought a physical disc in a LONG time - it's been downloads for me for quite some while.
Although Blu-ray is nice a option, I don't think it's necessary on a PC. It's more comfortable to watch movies in the family room anyways.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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I haven't bought a physical disc in a LONG time - it's been downloads for me for quite some while.
Although Blu-ray is nice a option, I don't think it's necessary on a PC. It's more comfortable to watch movies in the family room anyways.
I would like the option of Blu-Ray, tbh the optical drive on a Mac is very disappointing, its SO SLOW. Installing stuff from it is 'a bag of hurt'. So lets say you have a nice MacBook Pro and if you are like me want Adobe Creative Suite on it to do some editing, or even Final Cut Pro. Download it? Not at the current broadband infrastructure? I'd rather have optical media to do the install, or even a USB Drive. As a network admin (admittedly mainly PCS!) installing/upgrading stuff on the Macs is worse. Optical over USB? No thanks, until USB 3 is standard.
While I agree with the people who like to watch a Blu-Ray on their home theatre, I would like the option to watch the film on my MBP should the home system be ... occupied, or I just want to lounge on my bed. I don't want to fork out for a digital copy JUST to watch 'on the go'. I know most BR are coming with DVD and digital packs but I don't want to re-purchase what I already have.
I think we are dreaming seeing it coming, I would like there to be BR decoders built into OSX so at least if there is no BR drive, I can get an external. Pain to carry something extra, but it would help.
While I agree with the people who like to watch a Blu-Ray on their home theatre, I would like the option to watch the film on my MBP should the home system be ... occupied, or I just want to lounge on my bed. I don't want to fork out for a digital copy JUST to watch 'on the go'. I know most BR are coming with DVD and digital packs but I don't want to re-purchase what I already have.
I think we are dreaming seeing it coming, I would like there to be BR decoders built into OSX so at least if there is no BR drive, I can get an external. Pain to carry something extra, but it would help.
Godwin is just another in a very long line of as*holes who couldn't face reality and garnered enough similar followers to end up in wikipedia.
The world is far poorer for the man.
Fascism (as Mussolini defined it as when big business controls government) exists. The majority of the world lives under it. People like Godwin and people who quote him enable it by shutting down all argument. The perfect example of the typically fascist (whether or not Godwin himself is one or not) tactic of blaming ones' own sin on your opponent, especially when the accusation makes no sense whatsoever.
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I was using 'new' as a synonym for 'current' or if you prefer, 'relevant' in contrast to 'old news', a phrase which has connotations of the being out of date or irrelevant, which was clearly the context of my reply. But then you probably knew that already.
Jobs' 'original' 'bag of hurt' comment was preceded in 2005 by an enthusiastic endorsement of Blu-ray in 2005, and has been followed by the email reply that promoted the story which started this thread, and further followed by the later reported comments of being 'embarrassed' be involved with the BDA.
Clearly, the issue is one that has had 'new' turns (for both 'sides') over the course of over 5 years, during which time Blu-ray has grown from just one possibility in a format war to the de facto standard for home video releases in HD.
So I don't think to call this thread or the story that started it 'old news' is accurate, unless you are talking strictly about the original story and not the issue in general, (which is what most of this thread has been about, rather than the specific story from last July). I think to tacitly dismiss the whole issue just based on the story at the top of this thread being from July and not yesterday is disingenuous, as is using a loaded phrase like 'old news', which unless you take only a narrow literal interpretation fairly clearly implies a view that whatever the issue is it is one that has been resolved or made irrelevant - neither of which is true here.
If you want to be so literally pedantic, you might consider that Blu-ray is not literally a bag, and even if was, could not be filled with an abstract sense of pain such as 'hurt'.
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I just made my first media purchase by pre-ordering the complete Star Wars collection on BD from Amazon. Its been at least 5 years since I bought a movie. And there is no way I could even imagine watching this movie collection at a desk on my iMac or MBP versus the comfort of my home theater.
If you want to be so literally pedantic, you might consider that Blu-ray is not literally a bag, and even if was, could not be filled with an abstract sense of pain such as 'hurt'.
How about a "bag of frustration?" For example, when I have been anticipating the arrival of a new release from Netflix, and the BD disk arrives so scratched that it won't play. I find that to be a huge "bag of frustration." Can anyone guess what technology fills that frustration of physical media? (Hint: think body of water with a current)
Wait, why are you getting discs in the mail? I thought physical media was dead?
Come on guys, we can push to 5000 posts.
Sticking your head in a bucket of water and adding electricity? Sounds very dangerous to me.
Actually you're right about scratched rented discs, that is annoying. But again, I've never argued you shouldn't stream or download if that's what you want to do (and have the connection to do it), it's just a shame Apple won't afford those of us who'd like to play our BDs on our macs the same attitude of enabling choice.
You see to me, the poorer quality, the tying up of my internet connection, worse value, more draconian policies on choice of playback devices, more restrictive distribution practices and smaller library of titles are areas of frustration that would fill a larger bag than the odd scratched disc (which I would naturally get a replacement for if it was a purchased movie, which tend to be what I buy on BD - I still rent DVDs and have watched a few streamed).
Let's not pretend either BD or streaming is perfect - they're not. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. And there are even good arguments for using both - as you prove having ordered your Star Wars BDs and I prove by trying out a few streamed rentals for films I wasn't too bothered about at the time. But all I've ever been saying is that Apple should give its users the choice of using both, not forcing one down our throats whether we would generally prefer Blu-ray or not.
Sticking your head in a bucket of water and adding electricity? Sounds very dangerous to me.
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Again, I am not against BD nor am I against BD in Macs. If my next MBP comes with a built in BD drive I am fine with it. It will just get used as often as my current super drive, which is never.
Uck. I stopped renting nearly 10 years ago. Something like $8 overnight for a new release, slightly scratched, which would usually play fine. Older movies were around $4 3-night or weekly, which were usually scratched to #### and unplayable. As an experiment, I once took one of my old DVD-Rs and threw it around the house on the tiles and outside on concrete and it took AGES to get as scratched as rental DVDs. Careless morons.
I'd be interested to see the trend in $1000US + computers and what percentage of them have Blu-ray.
I'd be interested to see the trend in $1000US + computers and what percentage of them have Blu-ray.
I think streaming media is good for a lot of people... perhaps even most people. Perhaps that's why Apple chose that path. It's the dollar-paved path of least resistance for the money-train. I'm not one of those people. I like my 1080p material on my 1080p entertainment system, pulled from my 1080p Blu-ray disc that I either purchased or created myself.
When I DO create it myself, I would certainly like to be able to preview it on my Mac without:
1) booting into Windows,
2) firing up my PC, or
3) firing up my TV.
When I DO create it myself, I would certainly like to be able to preview it on my Mac without:
1) booting into Windows,
2) firing up my PC, or
3) firing up my TV.
Yes, but that is because you are a creative person who DOES create discs yourself, the core of the former Mac consumer audience, instead of a bleating sheep without a creative bone in its body who has been pandered to by a wannabe Wille Wonka for far too long.
That's just silly.
No, you're just against people who want BD in Macs. Also silly.
Hence 4600+ posts.
Yes, but that is because you are a creative person who DOES create discs yourself, the core of the former Mac consumer audience, instead of a bleating sheep without a creative bone in its body who has been pandered to by a wannabe Wille Wonka for far too long.
See... that's what this thread quickly devolved into: an excuse to insult people who don't need to produce BD content. It's pretty pathetic, and accomplishes nothing "productive".
Post a link to something you've created, so we can all admire your amazing skill (and see examples of why you're so much better than everyone else).
Hey, I installed this Blu-ray drive in my Mac, but it won't play any of my Blu-rays... what am I doing wrong? Can you tell me how to make it work?
Hahaha! Exactly.Don't you mean "send me a Blu-ray"?
Wow - just came across this thread while searching - as I got the Plextor USB BD drive for occasional use with my MBA. Since I run the machine in Win7 most of the time, I tossed in the PowerDVD 9 software that came with the drive, loaded it up, and was able to watch Despicable Me no problem. Wondering if performance/battery life would be different/better under OS X, I switched over and soon realized there was no way to play the damn thing. Unbelievable! (well not quite unbelievable given Apple's track record of stifling/limiting their users "for their own good")
I'm shocked that no 3rd party has stepped in and offered this though? Very odd. I can get by just fine in Windoze, but I was very surprised to find yet another limitation in OS X.
Obviously I prefer to watch BD content on my home theater, but sometimes my gf and I just want to watch something at her place, or catch up on Dexter episodes on the laptop, etc...
I'm shocked that no 3rd party has stepped in and offered this though? Very odd. I can get by just fine in Windoze, but I was very surprised to find yet another limitation in OS X.
Obviously I prefer to watch BD content on my home theater, but sometimes my gf and I just want to watch something at her place, or catch up on Dexter episodes on the laptop, etc...
Apple has to make changes at the OS level to support Blu-ray playback so there is nothing that a third party can do to get around that hurdle (at least not in a legal, commercially viable way).
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Interesting - why is this? It isn't just a matter of installing proper playback software and codecs?
Also, is it just me or are the MRforum email links broken lately?
Hahaha, no. I want to see the actual content (in any format), just to see what justifies such self-importance.
Hahaha.
Blu-ray? I think the only reason i use my Macbook pro's dvd drive is to rip dvd's to my ipod. why would i want another format that just leaves me with a bunch of costly discs laying everywhere and getting scratched to crap?
I hugely support (legally) downloading everything from games to music to movies on my Mac or my xbox or whatever because theres no discs to worry about and i will always have my stuff wherever i go. the only change we will need for this to work is bigger hard drives at lower cost. and who doesn't want that?
I hugely support (legally) downloading everything from games to music to movies on my Mac or my xbox or whatever because theres no discs to worry about and i will always have my stuff wherever i go. the only change we will need for this to work is bigger hard drives at lower cost. and who doesn't want that?
The only change? Really? So... internet access doesn't need to improve or get faster? Good. I'll shove that point in my friend Mr Physic's face.
Well, there's some truth to the old saying, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." I'm joining the dual-booting OSX/Windows 7 crowd (until my next system build, which will be a PC.) Adobe does more in a PC than Mac, and better, for less.
Oh, and faster internet. So if they push digital downloads it will force ISP's to increase bandwidth or risk losing customers. WIN-WIN situation.
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