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No it won't. The ISPs in my country won't compete with x other country, so as long as they provide market quota and speed, they will remain in business, regardless of whether the service is good enough to stream @ Blu-ray quality.
 
No it won't. The ISPs in my country won't compete with x other country, so as long as they provide market quota and speed, they will remain in business, regardless of whether the service is good enough to stream @ Blu-ray quality.

well i guess thats it then. discs will fall out of use and the internet will fry because of internet streaming, the world will lose communication with each other and movies will cease to exist.
were all doomed. i guess this is really whats going to happen on december 21st 2012.
 
well i guess thats it then. discs will fall out of use and the internet will fry because of internet streaming, the world will lose communication with each other and movies will cease to exist.
were all doomed. i guess this is really whats going to happen on december 21st 2012.

Internet will be fine because people will be watching BluRay.
 
What does ANY of that have to do with allowing Blu-ray playback on Mac.

****, you'd think with the comments in this thread that allowing Blu-ray somehow precluded the use of streaming.
 
I wont be. I hate physical media. scratched discs=having to buy another copy.
and physical media=having to carry a bunch of discs around if you want to watch movies on the go.

Scratched disc? I could be way off, but I remember reading that while making blu-ray, a special coating for discs was developed that was scratch proof... Well, virtually scratch proof, I'm guessing hitting them with a hammer would ruin them, but if you hit your discs with a hammer, you kinda had it coming.

In twentyish years I've only ever had two scratched discs. I can't remember what happened to the Robbie Robertson CD and the other was a film I hated so I left it sitting out and basically used it as a coaster (it still wasn't even that badly scratched so it might actually still be playable, not that I'm ever gonna check, hated that film.) Also, discs come with cases, there is a reason for that, use them well and you won't have a scratch problem :p

As for carrying discs around, I have a disc wallet (about the sameish size as my iPad) that can hold about 50 discs. Single layer bluray is 25GB, so that's about 1.25 TB, compared to 64GB?
 
See... that's what this thread quickly devolved into: an excuse to insult people who don't need to produce BD content. It's pretty pathetic, and accomplishes nothing "productive".

Post a link to something you've created, so we can all admire your amazing skill (and see examples of why you're so much better than everyone else).

Pearls before swine? Hardly. One doesn't go down that trap more than once.

Besides, like John Lennon once said: "We need money first."

:apple:
 
Interesting - why is this? It isn't just a matter of installing proper playback software and codecs?
The required DRM has to work at the OS level.

****, you'd think with the comments in this thread that allowing Blu-ray somehow precluded the use of streaming.
Shush now. Don't you know we should just be happy that people make computers at all? It's rather indigent to request features and say that you enjoy having options.


Lethal
 
I hugely support (legally) downloading everything from games to music to movies on my Mac or my xbox or whatever because theres no discs to worry about and i will always have my stuff wherever i go. the only change we will need for this to work is bigger hard drives at lower cost. and who doesn't want that?

That isn't the only change 'we' will need, unless 'we' are only people with very fast internet connections, very high data allowances/low caps and a willingness to put up with poorer quality until the former two things have improved still further.

And it still doesn't address the point that there are people now, with existing libraries of movies on Blu-ray that want to be able to play them on the mac. No-one is saying you shouldn't be able to download everything you want to, just that the choice of whether to download movies or to play Blu-ray movie disc should be the user's not Apple's.

Furthermore, there are many people who do not even have the aforementioned fast internet speeds or high data allowances to make downloading movies, even at highly reduced quality, an easy or fast enough option.

Apple could give us a paid-for software patch similar to their past Wireless-N patch for macbooks, or their iPod Touch OS update, or their Quicktime MPEG-2 component that would keep everyone happy. Instead they are being jerks about it, apparently for some theoretical, marginal if anything boost to iTunes movie sales.
 
What does ANY of that have to do with allowing Blu-ray playback on Mac.

It was part of a subtopic intended to determine why people who don't need Blu-ray functionality on their Mac(s) are to be regarded as "sheep". But (as is getting to be a frequent occurrence), wonderspark didn't grasp the essence of my comment to xbjllb... so the context became confused.


EDIT: the exact expression was: "bleating sheep without a creative bone in its body who has been pandered to by a wannabe Wille Wonka for far too long."

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Pearls before swine? Hardly. One doesn't go down that trap more than once.

Besides, like John Lennon once said: "We need money first."

Using Lennon to back up your misdirected belligerence? Oh please.
Sans any creative examples, we can file that baloney under "all show and no go".
 
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Wow. I get to make the one-millionth post!

Where's the beef? Where's the bandwidth or cells towers or whatever that will allow us all to walk around with thin little Apple devices?

It could be Jobs, and other Apple execs, confuse living in Silicon Valley's fully hooked up environment to living in the land of the barbarians like most of us do. Half of us have trouble making a cell phone call...
 
It was part of a subtopic intended to determine why people who don't need Blu-ray functionality on their Mac(s) are to be regarded as "sheep". But (as is getting to be a frequent occurrence), wonderspark didn't grasp the essence of my comment to xbjllb... so the context became confused.


EDIT: the exact expression was: "bleating sheep without a creative bone in its body who has been pandered to by a wannabe Wille Wonka for far too long."

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Using Lennon to back up your misdirected belligerence? Oh please.
Sans any creative examples, we can file that baloney under "all show and no go".

You're the one completely confused, hence my reference to having the wrong end of the stick. You mentioned self-importance and requested samples of work, which you now say is to answer some question of why people who don't need Blu-ray playback are sheep. Somehow, posting a link to an HD movie is going to answer that for you, eh? It's obvious you are more interested in looking like a bad-ass e-thug than answering any coherent question you may have about why anyone would want Blu-ray playback on a Mac. That question has been answered already.

Now, I'm not you, so I don't know how your brain comprehends (or fails to comprehend) things, but what I got from the sheep comment was that there is a majority of people who are very happy downloading and/or streaming media for a variety of reasons, much to Apple's delight, and that they often love anything Apple throws their way without question or complaint. There are parallels that can be made between these people and sheep, and the epithet appears fitting, given that Apple would like to see these people conditioned to being sheared of their wool on a regular basis. This is an analogy to being conditioned to pay for streaming content every time you use it, instead of paying for a disc once that you can watch as many times as you please, you see.

You're a sheep because you follow the sheepherder's commands. He says, "Don't go that way, for it is not the way I have chosen for you. My way is magical," and you baaa-aaaa obediently and put your nose in the end of the other sheep in front of you.

If that doesn't suit you, maybe you would prefer being called a Sheep Dog, since you come here and try to round up all the stray-thinkers that don't follow Shepherd Steve. Still a servant to Steve, mind you.

So go ahead and carve more points on your bedpost, guy. YOU get it. You're a winner! You could... tape all our butt-cheeks together!

My reasons for choosing physical media over streaming are simple. Better quality. One-time cost. I believe the streaming system is headed for monthly fees and/or pay each time you use it, and I don't like that. You seem to enjoy it, and that's fine for you. Don't get butt-hurt about it.
 
You're the one completely confused, hence my reference to having the wrong end of the stick. You mentioned self-importance and requested samples of work, which you now say is to answer some question of why people who don't need Blu-ray playback are sheep. Somehow, posting a link to an HD movie is going to answer that for you, eh? It's obvious you are more interested in looking like a bad-ass e-thug than answering any coherent question you may have about why anyone would want Blu-ray playback on a Mac. That question has been answered already.

Now, I'm not you, so I don't know how your brain comprehends (or fails to comprehend) things, but what I got from the sheep comment was that there is a majority of people who are very happy downloading and/or streaming media for a variety of reasons, much to Apple's delight, and that they often love anything Apple throws their way without question or complaint. There are parallels that can be made between these people and sheep, and the epithet appears fitting, given that Apple would like to see these people conditioned to being sheared of their wool on a regular basis. This is an analogy to being conditioned to pay for streaming content every time you use it, instead of paying for a disc once that you can watch as many times as you please, you see.

You're a sheep because you follow the sheepherder's commands. He says, "Don't go that way, for it is not the way I have chosen for you. My way is magical," and you baaa-aaaa obediently and put your nose in the end of the other sheep in front of you.

If that doesn't suit you, maybe you would prefer being called a Sheep Dog, since you come here and try to round up all the stray-thinkers that don't follow Shepherd Steve. Still a servant to Steve, mind you.

So go ahead and carve more points on your bedpost, guy. YOU get it. You're a winner! You could... tape all our butt-cheeks together!

My reasons for choosing physical media over streaming are simple. Better quality. One-time cost. I believe the streaming system is headed for monthly fees and/or pay each time you use it, and I don't like that. You seem to enjoy it, and that's fine for you. Don't get butt-hurt about it.

Oh my, you are quite "creative"... aren't you? ;)
 
... and he hit a handful of nails right on the head.

In minds that think like yours... i guess so.

If you BD fans need to resort to name-calling... and if people are going to claim to be superior to others due to being more "creative"... then they should back up those claims with proof. So far, bupkis... just more name-calling. Prance all you want, but the jig is up.

How sad that Steve Jobs doesn't care about BD at the moment. I can't help you (nobody can). That doesn't mean y'all can get away with trash talk and other forms of nonsense. [wonderspark may have hit some "nails" or whatever ... but (as usual) he missed the point.]
 
if i look at the other thread with usb3 there is nothing short of a pattern ;)

no blu-ray, no usb3, years of no native surround sound output,a single computer with a hdmi output, gazillions of video adapters thanks to mini displayport, the entry level macbook horrible outdated and overpriced etc.

premium ? hardly
honestly how many underwhelming updates have apple's computers had to endure the last years ? it's just that currently apple likes their gadgets way too much at the moment to care about their computer hardware at all

side note: my brother just upgraded his desktop to the sandy bridge plattform for 260 euro
 
You're the one completely confused, hence my reference to having the wrong end of the stick. You mentioned self-importance and requested samples of work, which you now say is to answer some question of why people who don't need Blu-ray playback are sheep. Somehow, posting a link to an HD movie is going to answer that for you, eh? It's obvious you are more interested in looking like a bad-ass e-thug than answering any coherent question you may have about why anyone would want Blu-ray playback on a Mac. That question has been answered already.

Now, I'm not you, so I don't know how your brain comprehends (or fails to comprehend) things, but what I got from the sheep comment was that there is a majority of people who are very happy downloading and/or streaming media for a variety of reasons, much to Apple's delight, and that they often love anything Apple throws their way without question or complaint. There are parallels that can be made between these people and sheep, and the epithet appears fitting, given that Apple would like to see these people conditioned to being sheared of their wool on a regular basis. This is an analogy to being conditioned to pay for streaming content every time you use it, instead of paying for a disc once that you can watch as many times as you please, you see.

You're a sheep because you follow the sheepherder's commands. He says, "Don't go that way, for it is not the way I have chosen for you. My way is magical," and you baaa-aaaa obediently and put your nose in the end of the other sheep in front of you.

If that doesn't suit you, maybe you would prefer being called a Sheep Dog, since you come here and try to round up all the stray-thinkers that don't follow Shepherd Steve. Still a servant to Steve, mind you.

So go ahead and carve more points on your bedpost, guy. YOU get it. You're a winner! You could... tape all our butt-cheeks together!

My reasons for choosing physical media over streaming are simple. Better quality. One-time cost. I believe the streaming system is headed for monthly fees and/or pay each time you use it, and I don't like that. You seem to enjoy it, and that's fine for you. Don't get butt-hurt about it.

So, I am a "sheep" because........

1. I bought Macs for my business because I was tired of almost 20 years of Windows shortcomings.
2. I find streaming convenient.
3. I like watching BD movies in my home theater on my 92" screen with dedicated BD player as opposed to my little 27" iMac screen or 13" MBP. (My friend is building a home theater with 100" screen in his new home and I mentioned that he should save his money and buy a 15" Windows laptop with built in BD player - no need for me to mention his reaction - LOL)
4. Any electronics store will sell you an internal or external BD drive for your Mac.
5. I really don't care what SJ's point of view is on BD in Macs because I could care less whether he gives us the option or not. All that matters is my Macs work for my employees and I spend zero time trouble shooting them unlike my Windows days.

Baaa-aaaa!!!!
 
So, I am a "sheep" because........

1. I bought Macs for my business because I was tired of almost 20 years of Windows shortcomings.

Funny how multi billion dollars business rely on windows every day.


2. I find streaming convenient.

Most people don't have fast enough internet or suffer bandwidth caps to stream. That is also ignoring the quality issues.

3. I like watching BD movies in my home theater on my 92" screen with dedicated BD player as opposed to my little 27" iMac screen or 13" MBP. (My friend is building a home theater with 100" screen in his new home and I mentioned that he should save his money and buy a 15" Windows laptop with built in BD player - no need for me to mention his reaction - LOL)

I am utterly amazed that you are incapable of understanding that some people would like the option to view a blu ray on both. Second please get your story straight, you claim that blu ray is dead and then claim you have one and watch. Second if you put garbage through the best projector onto the best screen you will still have garbage.


4. Any electronics store will sell you an internal or external BD drive for your Mac.

I am not at all surprised that you continue to post this completely disproven lie. Just so i get this straight buying Ghost for windows was a nightmare for you, yet spending hundreds, hooking up an external drive to only get partial functions is a solution?


5. I really don't care what SJ's point of view is on BD in Macs because I could care less whether he gives us the option or not.

If you could care less then why do you have dozens of posts bashing the option for blu ray in macs? If you could care less why are you even in this thread?
 
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5. I really don't care what SJ's point of view is on BD in Macs because I could care less whether he gives us the option or not.


If you could care less then why do you have dozens of posts bashing the option for blu ray in macs? If you could care less why are you even in this thread?

You missed linux2mac's mistake - he's here because he could care less, not because he couldn't care less.

;)
 
Funny how multi billion dollars business rely on windows every day.
Funny how they pay out the wazoo for IT support and anti-virus (etc) security.

After many years (starting with DOS), it's not surprising that "big" businesses such as banks, insurance companies and govt. agencies, etc., have stuck it out with Billy Goat (err, i mean Bill Gates) all these years. But some are coming to their senses and moving away...

Google dumps Windows for Mac OS and Linux (zdnet.com - june 2010)
 
funny how they pay out the wazoo for it support and anti-virus (etc) security.

After many years (starting with dos), it's not surprising that "big" businesses such as banks, insurance companies and govt. Agencies, etc., have stuck it out with billy goat (err, i mean bill gates) all these years. But some are coming to their senses and moving away...

google dumps windows for mac os and linux (zdnet.com - june 2010)

+1

Looks like Google followed linux2mac's corporate direction. LOL (My company was Linux/OSX in 2009.)

Hmmm, secure office with Linux and OSX or non-secure office with BD supported Windows? I'll take the former any day.

“We’re not doing any more Windows. It is a security effort,” said one Google employee.

“Many people have been moved away from [Windows] PCs, mostly towards Mac OS, following the China hacking attacks,” said another.
 
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