meanwhile I watched a bluray on my MBP last night. All you need is a drive and makemkv.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Good question .. I don't know either, as I've not gone back and opened both up both references to find out.
Unfortunately, I'm not likely to get to it today or tomorrow...and maybe not for 2 weeks. So I'm not trying to blow this off ... life is interfering with a project that's been driving me nuts from unnecessary emergencies due to some individuals' incomptence that's requiring me to go kick heads, etc, in order to not utterly blow a major schedule milestone.
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Hulu is not free, it requires you to watch commercials. And that quote is pointless overall. That market began there, what is moving? In other news, the sky appears blue.
"Vaporware" is not usually used unless there is reason. Apple does not have a history of vapor issues, unlike some companies. eg, iOS5 has a specific time period for delivery, which has not been moved. We are simply not there, yet. In late November, if it isn't out, then you can pull out "vaporware".
Interestingly the term "vaporware" has Microsoft origins. Imagine that.
"Winblad compared the word to the idea of "selling smoke", implying Microsoft was selling a product it would soon not support."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
Yes, but then Apple was selling Final Cut Studio right up until the day they released Final Cut Pro X, which is incompatible with the former. Is that any different? I think it could be said that Apple frequently sells things that they will soon not support. I can buy another Mac Pro right now that comes with a DVD burner (but not a BD burner, heh) despite the fact that they don't want people to use discs any longer.
At least Microsoft still supports discs. Imagine that.
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Yes, but then Apple was selling Final Cut Studio right up until the day they released Final Cut Pro X, which is incompatible with the former. Is that any different? I think it could be said that Apple frequently sells things that they will soon not support. I can buy another Mac Pro right now that comes with a DVD burner (but not a BD burner, heh) despite the fact that they don't want people to use discs any longer.
At least Microsoft still supports discs. Imagine that.
Huh? Yeah it is "any different."
I know, right. The look on Walt Mossberg's face when the Adobe CEO tries to say that Flash works on Android sums up my thoughts.
http://www.cultofmac.com/walt-mossberg-tells-adobe-ceo-to-his-face-that-flash-sucks-on-android/98231
Thank you for finding support for my use of the term
Later in the link that you cite, it says:
The bolded sentence has footnotes to
Since both IOS5 and Icloud have been announced, but not released, they are vaporware according to general use of the term.
Later in the link that you cite, it says:
The bolded sentence has footnotes to
page 3 - Bayus, Barry L.; Jain, Sanjay; Rao, Ambar G. (2001-02-01). "Truth or consequences: An analysis of vaporware and new product announcements". Journal of Marketing Research (American Marketing Association) 38 (1): 3–13. doi:10.1509/jmkr.38.1.3.18834. ISSN 0022-2437.
page 11 - Prentice, Robert A.; Langmore, John H. (1994). "Beware of varpoware: product hype and the securities fraud liability of high-tech companies". Harvard Journal of Law & Technology (Harvard Law School) 8 (1). ISSN 0897-3393. Retrieved 2010-04-16.
page 11 - Prentice, Robert A.; Langmore, John H. (1994). "Beware of varpoware: product hype and the securities fraud liability of high-tech companies". Harvard Journal of Law & Technology (Harvard Law School) 8 (1). ISSN 0897-3393. Retrieved 2010-04-16.
Since both IOS5 and Icloud have been announced, but not released, they are vaporware according to general use of the term.
Regardless, the term "vaporware" was coined as a direct result of typical Microsoft shenanigans.
You can buy both today for only $99
I guess then, every thing google has the beta tag on is Vapor Ware.
Yes, but then Apple was selling Final Cut Studio right up until the day they released Final Cut Pro X, which is incompatible with the former. Is that any different? I think it could be said that Apple frequently sells things that they will soon not support. I can buy another Mac Pro right now that comes with a DVD burner (but not a BD burner, heh) despite the fact that they don't want people to use discs any longer.
At least Microsoft still supports discs. Imagine that.
360 is a good model to look at. They are starting to have downloads of full games but obviously they still have disks. The XBOX 3 will use disks as well so they can sell to EVERYONE not a niche group. The Windows box makers will use disks till its TIME for it to go if ever. Download and physical media are good when they co exist.
Hell even Sony who pushes Blu ray and has vested interest in it allows downloads of movies on their PSN store, but the PS4 will have Blu as well. Steve thinks he is making a dent in the Universe, which is classic statements from a hallucinogen user. Still probably uses as far as I know.
He and his fanboys think he is far better than he really is. I give Ive and the coders of OSX more credit for creating "Image" which especially the states are all about. There should be an antitrust suit IMO if they continue to push MAS as the only distribution. I have seen suits for lesser actions.
Going to be funny to see Apple sell a Mac Pro without an optical drive. Lacks space I guess.
Bad point.
The Google beta software is released to end-users, therefore it is released software in spite of "beta" label.
How am I supposed to kick the football through the uprights of a moving goal post?
Vaporware typically has negative connotations that imply it likely won't ever see the light of day, which is behavior Apple doesn't engage in.
Giving access to time-limited test versions to a limited pool of selected users is not a "release". It's a beta.
See Apple Disabling iOS 5 Beta Installs and Developer Accounts Over Sales of Device Slots? for some more context.
Please go re-read the Wiki article that we've been shown. The gist is:
Windows 8 is vaporware. It's been announced and shown, but not released to the public. What are the chances that it will never see the light of day?
IOS5 is vaporware. It's been announced and shown, but not released to the public. What are the chances that it will never see the light of day?
Icloud is vaporware. It's been announced and shown, but not released to the public. What are the chances that it will never see the light of day?
The general use of the term has evolved to include any software/hardware that's been announced, but not released.
At this point in time, even Intel's Thunderbolt looks like it could still be vaporware.
Search for "Thunderbolt" at Newegg. Most of the hits are for accessories for the Thunderbolt Android phone (a great true 4G/LTE phone, by the way). There are a couple of ATX power supplies called "Thunderbolt" (cute name for a PS), and an Asus motherboard called "Thunderbolt" (which doesn't have any Intel Thunderbolt ports).
Search the Apple Store for "Thunderbolt" - few hits, and all say "ships in 2-3 weeks" (the cable
) or "ships in 3-5 weeks" (the $1000 monitor and the $1000-$2000 drives).I'm overcome by the "vapors".
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If you want any independent confirmation of the absurd use of the word "beta" by Google, search Google itself for "google permanent beta".
11.6M hits!
It's a common joke about the "permanent beta" state of many Google apps.
They're not "beta", in spite of the tag.
1) You just said a beta is a release as long as it's a Google beta.
2) Apple isn't disabling any beta installs for folks who actually pay Apple the $99.
And excusing Google because they are in "perpetual beta" means iOS 5 wouldn't be vaporware as long as Apple had a history of keeping things in beta for an absurdly long time?
You're kind of being a bit nutty today.
"Well,....obviously...."(Antoine Dodson) you brought it on yourself with one of your usual slams on Apple by calling iCloud "vaporware."
No, I said that Google calls their releases "beta".
The "Google permanent beta" thing is a big joke.
Actually, I thought the story was that some of the earlier betas expired and were disabled, regardless of whether you had legitimate rights to use the beta. (That wasn't the headline - but headlines are chosen to generate page views, not provide facts.)
Not nutty at all. Google has a process of releasing stuff with the label of "beta", and rapidly fine-tuning the product with frequent releases.
Apple has a more traditional beta program of controlled releases of test software to limited groups of chosen people.
The phrase "Apple beta" and "Google beta" mean completely different things - and the only "nutty" thing would be to pretend that they mean the same thing.
Microsoft has a blended approach.
- TAP - for high value partners, access to the daily/weekly builds for testing (if Apple has something analogous, no one would be permitted to talk about it)
- MSDN - paid access by developers to major milestone builds (analogous to Apple developer accounts)
- Public Betas - open (but very generously time-limited) access to a couple of super-major controlled builds (Apple doesn't do this)
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And by the link that you yourself posted:
Icloud has been announced. It has not been released.
Therefore by the definition that you yourself proposed "Icloud is vaporware".
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You know very well your use of the word "vaporware" was delivered with an unfavorable tone. I don't think I ever recall you saying anything favorable about Apple. I believe that might fall into the category of being inflammatory. But don't worry, I am not going to report you. I am not a snitch. Its the way I was raised.
It's not his fault that Microsoft is a software company and not a hardware company. It is not his fault that Windows does not natively support Blu-Ray. If they really backed Blu-Ray, it would cost a fortune (albeit not as much as Apple).
This persecution must end!
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