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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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AidenShaw said:
Since both IOS5 and Icloud have been announced, but not released, they are vaporware according to general use of the term.
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General use? Not that I've noticed, everybody still considers the key component to be "and may never be released". Which is subjective, of course, but claiming iOS5 qualifies is ludicrous. Amazing what you'll make up just to tweak Mac users. Now, if you want a good Apple vaporware, try the white iPhone 4. (well, not anymore)

How about a better source?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vaporware
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vaporware
 
JAT said:
General use? Not that I've noticed, everybody still considers the key component to be "and may never be released". Which is subjective, of course, but claiming iOS5 qualifies is ludicrous. Amazing what you'll make up just to tweak Mac users. Now, if you want a good Apple vaporware, try the white iPhone 4. (well, not anymore)

How about a better source?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vaporware
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vaporware
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The sources that linux2mac gave us are the American Marketing Association Journal of Marketing Research and the Harvard Law School Harvard Journal of Law & Technology.

Are you seriously proposing that the urbandictionary trumps the Harvard Law School?
 
AidenShaw said:
The sources that linux2mac gave us are the American Marketing Association Journal of Marketing Research and the Harvard Law School Harvard Journal of Law & Technology.

Are you seriously proposing that the urbandictionary trumps the Harvard Law School?
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LOL. Lawyers don't know anything about technology.
 
AidenShaw said:
The sources that linux2mac gave us are the American Marketing Association Journal of Marketing Research and the Harvard Law School Harvard Journal of Law & Technology.

Are you seriously proposing that the urbandictionary trumps the Harvard Law School?
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That ain't Harvard Law Review, it's a third tier trash journal.
 
AidenShaw has a point. It's irresponsible of Apple to restrict adoption of a certain platform when they have nothing in place yet to offer as a viable alternative or substitution.
 
davedude said:
AidenShaw has a point. It's irresponsible of Apple to restrict adoption of a certain platform when they have nothing in place yet to offer as a viable alternative or substitution.
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What are they restricting adoption of? You can plug a bluray drive into any Mac and use it to author blurays, watch buray movies, etc.
 
cmaier said:
What are they restricting adoption of? You can plug a bluray drive into any Mac and use it to author blurays, watch buray movies, etc.
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Exactly. And you can run Windows via Bootcamp or VM to have the utmost in Hi def codec playback options.

Gotta love the things you can do with a Mac. :)
 
davedude said:
AidenShaw has a point. It's irresponsible of Apple to restrict adoption of a certain platform when they have nothing in place yet to offer as a viable alternative or substitution.
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Please elaborate.

VitaminD said:
Exactly. And you can run Windows via Bootcamp or VM to have the utmost in Hi def codec playback options.

Gotta love the things you can do with a Mac. :)
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And don't forget my favorite part - its a *NIX system!! What makes OSX so great is that a hardcore *NIX command line junkie can open up Terminal and find themselves in familiar territory while a grandma with little to no computer experience can easily learn computing via OSX's polished GUI. OSX is truly the OS for everyone.
 
cmaier said:
What are they restricting adoption of? You can plug a bluray drive into any Mac and use it to author blurays, watch buray movies, etc.
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The only way to watch Blu-ray movies after plugging in a Blu-ray player is through a somewhat complicated workaround using two separate programs, or booting into Windows. Neither hardcore *NIX command lines nor grandma's familiar UI territory got us there. It wasn't meant to be discovered by Apple users, because Apple doesn't want people watching Blu-rays on their Macs, period.

You gotta love the fact that you can buy and install Windows on a Mac in order to make it do what a PC can do. Likewise, you gotta love the fact that you can buy a PC and install OS X on it via Hackintosh methods so you can make it do what a Mac can do.

We're talking about two ecosystems, each of which having strengths over the other in certain situations. It's not really so simple to claim that "anyone" can play a Blu-ray movie on a Mac. Those with limited literacy in computers (even Macs) would not be successful in getting a Mac to boot back and forth into Windows, or follow the method to using MakeMKV and VLC (neither of which come with a Mac) in order to play that disc.

If you deny that, I don't think you're being honest with yourself.
 
Streaming movies will continue to grow, pretty clear now that Bluray is in the past and Apple only looks towards the future.
 
wonderspark said:
The only way to watch Blu-ray movies after plugging in a Blu-ray player is through a somewhat complicated workaround using two separate programs, or booting into Windows. Neither hardcore *NIX command lines nor grandma's familiar UI territory got us there. It wasn't meant to be discovered by Apple users, because Apple doesn't want people watching Blu-rays on their Macs, period.

You gotta love the fact that you can buy and install Windows on a Mac in order to make it do what a PC can do. Likewise, you gotta love the fact that you can buy a PC and install OS X on it via Hackintosh methods so you can make it do what a Mac can do.

We're talking about two ecosystems, each of which having strengths over the other in certain situations. It's not really so simple to claim that "anyone" can play a Blu-ray movie on a Mac. Those with limited literacy in computers (even Macs) would not be successful in getting a Mac to boot back and forth into Windows, or follow the method to using MakeMKV and VLC (neither of which come with a Mac) in order to play that disc.

If you deny that, I don't think you're being honest with yourself.
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Indeed all valid and pragmatic points. (Though, running OS X on a PC is technically illegal - something I think is silly but hey, it is what is is.)

And it would have been nice if Apple simply adopted Blu-ray optical drives and playback as well as eSATA. Especially considering that Macs are marketed as multi-media capable computers.

In any event, factually speaking or for the sake of clarification, anyone can enjoy Blu-ray on a Mac. They just have to take the time to figure out how. Granted, that's easier for some than for others. But there is no technical or legal barrier for doing so.
 
AppleTech22 said:
Yet we are still at 720p
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Steve said it was good enough. Its what he uses.

Itunes 720p is = to 4k images. :p

I watched that silicon valley movie, when that programmer attacked Jobs I cheered loudly on the inside. "Beat his a**!" I let slip out.
 
VitaminD said:
In any event, factually speaking or for the sake of clarification, anyone can enjoy Blu-ray on a Mac. They just have to take the time to figure out how. Granted, that's easier for some than for others. But there is no technical or legal barrier for doing so.
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There's no way to play Blu Ray properly on OSX, how many times do we have to repeat this?
 
Tiggs said:
Streaming movies will continue to grow, pretty clear now that Bluray is in the past
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No, it's pretty clear now that Blu-ray isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It's been growing ever since it came out, and it's going to seriously pick up speed real soon. Blu-ray Awareness Month is just around the corner- And by that I mean the Tattooine double sunset is going to be breathtaking in high-bitrate 1080p...

[Darth Vader voice] (heavy breathing) "Don't be too proud of this technological wonder that Netflix has created. The ability to stream an over-compressed B movie is INSIGNIFICANT compared to the power of the force!! [/Darth Vader voice]
 
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cube said:
There's no way to play Blu Ray properly on OSX, how many times do we have to repeat this?
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And I said there was... where? Curious. Since if you read just a few posts up, you'll see that I said that Blu-rays can be played on a Mac using Windows.

That's how I roll. I'm not at the mercy of Mr. Jobs preferences.

Going forward, I would ask that you read just a little bit more of a thread before responding in such an unnecessarily harsh and rude manner. :(
 
GregAndonian said:
No, it's pretty clear now that Blu-ray isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It's been growing ever since it came out, and it's going to seriously pick up speed real soon. Blu-ray Awareness Month is just around the corner- And by that I mean the Tattooine double sunset is going to be breathtaking in high-bitrate 1080p...

[Darth Vader voice] (heavy breathing) "Don't be too proud of this technological wonder that Netflix has created. The ability to stream an over-compressed B movie is INSIGNIFICANT compared to the power of the force!! [/Darth Vader voice]
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I am looking forward to my Stars Wars BD set pre-order to arrive from Amazon. Will be watching them via one of my dedicated BD players.
 
cube said:
There's no way to play Blu Ray properly on OSX, how many times do we have to repeat this?
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I guess that depends on your definition of "properly," because I can play Blu-ray movies right off the disc on my Mac Pro, which has only OSX installed. No Windows, nothing but 10.6.8. They look nice on the 30" ACD.

If by "properly" you mean with Apple's blessing, then you're right. But otherwise, you just have to install a BD player/burner, download MakeMKV, set as stream, copy address, paste into VLC and enjoy. Takes me about 55 seconds until movie starts, and thankfully no menus or previews to watch.

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I usually watch movies in the living room, but when a bunch of people come over and want to watch something lame, I have options in the office. That's nice... despite Apple's attempt to bar me from that option.
 
linux2mac said:
I am looking forward to my Stars Wars BD set pre-order to arrive from Amazon. Will be watching them via one of my dedicated BD players.
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So will I. In addition, I will be able to watch them during my trips on my Windows laptop (if I want to). There are benefits to using Windows, you know.
 
VivaLaDricas said:
Steve said it was good enough. Its what he uses.

Itunes 720p is = to 4k images. :p

I watched that silicon valley movie, when that programmer attacked Jobs I cheered loudly on the inside. "Beat his a**!" I let slip out.
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If Steve said it's good enough, it's good enough. Even if it's not.
 
Downloadable or streaming will never become mainstream if ISPs are able to impose bandwidth caps. As it stands now BR won't go away because of the limits imposed by our gateways to the internet. Period.
 
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