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With Ultra HD coming out there will be higher resolutions which is pointless because the human eye can only see so much. Maybe we will have bionic enhanced at that point :eek:
 
A lot of money.

Blu-ray pricing both hardware and media have come down drastically. Recordable media is still up there in price. But you can get a decent blu-ray player for $100 (US) and blu-ray movies can be found for the same price as DVD. And most blu-ray releases are Combo packs so you get Blu-ray and DVD.
I have not paid over $20 for a blu-ray movie.
 
Just wait a little longer when full 1080p is available for stream from netflix and itunes, I will gaurantee you that bluray disc debates will die.

Again, 1080p stream != 1080p blu-ray. Resolution doesn't mean much - it's all about quality (bitrate, lossless audio, etc). Sure resolution plays a part, but the true superiority of blu-ray is the encode/audio quality.
 
An obsolete Blu-ray player might be $100. A 3D player would be more like $300.

Even if you would agree to buy one, there's still the problem of multiregion.

And finally, there's the problem of the space required by the redundant gear.
 
Again, 1080p stream != 1080p blu-ray. Resolution doesn't mean much - it's all about quality (bitrate, lossless audio, etc). Sure resolution plays a part, but the true superiority of blu-ray is the encode/audio quality.

Dont worry, bandwidth will get alot faster by then as well. Right now were only at what, 30Mbps down at most with most users with comcast blast service (thats what I'm using) but just wait until everything uses fiber optics with at least 60Mbps down. You can easily stream a full bluray disc rip without losing any frames, hell you can do that right now.
 
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Blu-ray pricing both hardware and media have come down drastically. Recordable media is still up there in price. But you can get a decent blu-ray player for $100 (US) and blu-ray movies can be found for the same price as DVD. And most blu-ray releases are Combo packs so you get Blu-ray and DVD.
I have not paid over $20 for a blu-ray movie.

I still find that to be expensive to pay $15-$19 bucks per bluray movie.

Netflix already has $8.99 unlimited download per month with all their 720p content. Just wait until $8.99 1080p content rolls around.

Either way, I'm sure you own a PS3? No need for another bluray player.
 
Why dont you just buy a dvd? Its cheaper, quality is still more than good enough on a 15" display. Or just sign up with netflix and stream 720p, even with a high resolution display on a 15" or 17" macbook pro, it'll look just as good as a bluray disc on such a small display. Oh and its way cheaper too, $8.99 for unlimited downloads with alot of content available.

I already have a high res. 17" MBP. I also have a netflix subscription. But netflix has a poor selection, and i have to have a decent internet connection. My work doesn't, and if you've ever traveled you'd know the answer to the hotel question.
 
Dont worry, bandwidth will get alot faster by then as well. Right now were only at what, 30Mbps down at most with most users with comcast blast service (thats what I'm using) but just wait until everything uses fiber optics with at least 60Mbps down. You can easily stream a full bluray disc rip without losing any frames, hell you can do that right now.

Then comes data caps.. and what about rural areas?

Also 30mbps is definately on the HIGH end of consumer data connections.. I would say the average connect right now is 6mbps down 1mbps up.
 
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Dont worry, bandwidth will get alot faster by then as well. Right now were only at what, 30Mbps down at most with most users with comcast blast service (thats what I'm using) but just wait until everything uses fiber optics with at least 60Mbps down. You can easily stream a full bluray disc rip without losing any frames, hell you can do that right now.

Uh yeah, i'll keep waiting. In 10 years, bandwidth has gone to approx 1 Mb/s to 10/20ish Mb/s. And thats for a small percentage of people. Remember: Everyone isn't an internet nerd like us and has a huge connection. Many people are surfing at around 1/5 Mb/s still these days.

Also bandwidth caps.
 
I refuse to download movies or TV shows from iTunes or any other digital movie store. If I really want to own a movie, I would much rather have the physical media. I have Netflix for the other stuff I just want to watch one time.

The lesser the amount of money I can give to Jobs, the better. He is a greedy, mean person. For Jobs this all boils down to him losing money from iTunes downloads. Another reason I buy my music in record stores.

But you do own the physical media when you download video. The zeros and ones on your hard drive are no less physical than the zeros and ones on a disk.
 
Dont worry, bandwidth will get alot faster by then as well. Right now were only at what, 30Mbps down at most with most users with comcast blast service (thats what I'm using) but just wait until everything uses fiber optics with at least 60Mbps down. You can easily stream a full bluray disc rip without losing any frames, hell you can do that right now.

Don't worry, ISPs are already implementing data caps and I'm sure things will only get worse. More and more people are canceling tv cable service and you're crazy if you don't think they'll continue to implement more tiered internet services to make up for the loss of revenue.
 
I still find that to be expensive to pay $15-$19 bucks per bluray movie.

Netflix already has $8.99 unlimited download per month with all their 720p content. Just wait until $8.99 1080p content rolls around.

Either way, I'm sure you own a PS3? No need for another bluray player.

You're cheep. Many people had no problem paying this durring the hayday of DVD. 100's of millions of people were okay with paying $15-$20ish dollars for a DVD.

Basically the "free/cheep" disease has started to spread like wildfire. Everyone things they're owed these films by studios. Like they don't need to pay for it. Same thing happened at the beginning of the decade with music.
 
Dont worry, bandwidth will get alot faster by then as well. Right now were only at what, 30Mbps down at most with most users with comcast blast service (thats what I'm using) but just wait until everything uses fiber optics with at least 60Mbps down. You can easily stream a full bluray disc rip without losing any frames, hell you can do that right now.

Again, I don't think you live in the same world as the rest of us. Bandwidth isn't just for downloading. Just because you can download something at 30Mbps doesn't mean that everyone can serve at that speed. Lots of people have problems even getting YouTube or Netflix to stream without constantly buffering... imagine trying to deal with thousands and thousands of 40Mbps streams. Not to mention the fact that most ISPs are going the opposite direction by capping downloads and charging steep overage fees.
 
Also to quell all these "Downloads will kill blu ray/DVD" people. Remember Cable's "On Demand" rental feature? This has been around for a long time. And has a larger market penetration than any other format. And has it killed DVD/Blu ray? Is it going too?

On Demand is arguably more convenient, faster and easier to use. And it hasn't taken over.

Thats because streaming services will always be what they are: A compliment to physical media. At least for the foreseeable future.
 
Then comes data caps.. and what about rural areas?

Also 30mbps is definately on the HIGH end of consumer data connections.. I would say the average connect right now is 6mbps down 1mbps up.

Yea comcast does suck with their data cap of 250GB per month. Its only been 20 days of my monthly billing cycle and I just checked how much I've downloaded and I'm already at 600GB!! But then again the last 3 months I d/led about 1TB, 850GB and 700GB.

I heard that it really depends on your usage ratio as to the rest of the people around you. I suppose everyone around me are downloading just as much as I am or near it. LOL.

But I would think that if we've managed to get at least 60Mbps down in the future, that 250GB cap would go up as it would be easily saturated from streaming high content. Especially when 1080p contents are the norm, every online service will recognize that people will need the much larger cap per month.

One thing to note is that the only reason thats keeping me away from AT&T is the 2GB cap on their 3G data network. I'm using T-mobile with HSPA + in my area and I get a constant 6Mbps down and 1.8Mbps up (which is much faster than AT&T) and I have unlimited download (well T-mobile saids it is but in reality is 10GB cap and they throttle me down to edge speeds after that until my monthly billing cycle resets) but still far better than the measly 2GB per month.

I tether my nexus one with tmobile's 3G all the time and when I am tethered to my notebook, I watch alot of youtube videos, or any type of videos streaming including hulu. I've tested out my usage pattern and by watching 6-7 3-5 minute videos in 3 hours and surfing the net like I would do normally on my 3G tethered to my macbook pro, I've managed to d/l 308Mb. Now that is not nearly enough for someone who tethers alot and I am sure glad that I have T-mobile with its fast HSPA + that gets pretty much 4G speeds or even better than sprints 4G in my area with a theoretical unlimited (10GB) cap that I think is plenty enough.

Why oh Why AT&T! I should have stayed with AT&T and grandfathered the unlimited 3G plan.. But then again I am saving $40-$50 a month with T-mobile with the exact same unlimited 3G + unlimited text plan. :)
 
Also to quell all these "Downloads will kill blu ray/DVD" people. Remember Cable's "On Demand" rental feature? This has been around for a long time. And has a larger market penetration than any other format. And has it killed DVD/Blu ray? Is it going too?

On Demand is arguably more convenient, faster and easier to use. And it hasn't taken over.

Thats because streaming services will always be what they are: A compliment to physical media. At least for the foreseeable future.

Good point!
 
Again, I don't think you live in the same world as the rest of us. Bandwidth isn't just for downloading. Just because you can download something at 30Mbps doesn't mean that everyone can serve at that speed. Lots of people have problems even getting YouTube or Netflix to stream without constantly buffering... imagine trying to deal with thousands and thousands of 40Mbps streams. Not to mention the fact that most ISPs are going the opposite direction by capping downloads and charging steep overage fees.

I have time warner here in NC and they had a field trial of some typed of tiered capped usage. Needless to say it failed and they backed away from it. I think eventually 20 or 30Mpbs will be considered a "Lite" speed and will be cheaper in the future meaning 3 to 6 years from now.
 
Yea comcast does suck with their data cap of 250GB per month. Its only been 20 days of my monthly billing cycle and I just checked how much I've downloaded and I'm already at 600GB!! But then again the last 3 months I d/led about 1TB, 850GB and 700GB.

I heard that it really depends on your usage ratio as to the rest of the people around you. I suppose everyone around me are downloading just as much as I am or near it. LOL.

But I would think that if we've managed to get at least 60Mbps down in the future, that 250GB cap would go up as it would be easily saturated from streaming high content. Especially when 1080p contents are the norm, every online service will recognize that people will need the much larger cap per month.

One thing to note is that the only reason thats keeping me away from AT&T is the 2GB cap on their 3G data network. I'm using T-mobile with HSPA + in my area and I get a constant 6Mbps down and 1.8Mbps up (which is much faster than AT&T) and I have unlimited download (well T-mobile saids it is but in reality is 10GB cap and they throttle me down to edge speeds after that until my monthly billing cycle resets) but still far better than the measly 2GB per month.

I tether my nexus one with tmobile's 3G all the time and when I am tethered to my notebook, I watch alot of youtube videos, or any type of videos streaming including hulu. I've tested out my usage pattern and by watching 6-7 3-5 minute videos in 3 hours and surfing the net like I would do normally on my 3G tethered to my macbook pro, I've managed to d/l 308Mb. Now that is not nearly enough for someone who tethers alot and I am sure glad that I have T-mobile with its fast HSPA + that gets pretty much 4G speeds or even better than sprints 4G in my area with a theoretical unlimited (10GB) cap that I think its plenty enough.

Why oh Why AT&T! I should have stayed with AT&T and grandfathered the unlimited 3G plan.. But then again I am saving $40-$50 a month with T-mobile with the exact same unlimited 3G + unlimited text plan. :)

Not to be a jerk, but you are in a very very small minority. Downloading 1.5TB a month!? I take it your torrenting. Most people don't use nearly a fraction of this. But because of people like you, they're throttling peoples bandwidth and installing caps.
 
I have a sony bravia xbr6 52" that I play 720p in and most of the time comparing a ps3 bluray disc or a 12GB-20GB mkv 1080p bluray file, I cannot tell the difference to the 720p (at a certain distance that is).

It's a shame you have nice home theater equipment and can't tell the difference. You're missing out!
 
I have been been looking at purchasing a new laptop. I have an 06 MBP that has been working flawlessly and love it.

I was considering getting a new i7 MBP but with this news Steve has lost a customer. same goes with the MacMini I have, it will not be replaced.
 
Yea comcast does suck with their data cap of 250GB per month. Its only been 20 days of my monthly billing cycle and I just checked how much I've downloaded and I'm already at 600GB!! But then again the last 3 months I d/led about 1TB, 850GB and 700GB.

I heard that it really depends on your usage ratio as to the rest of the people around you. I suppose everyone around me are downloading just as much as I am or near it. LOL.

But I would think that if we've managed to get at least 60Mbps down in the future, that 250GB cap would go up as it would be easily saturated from streaming high content. Especially when 1080p contents are the norm, every online service will recognize that people will need the much larger cap per month.

One thing to note is that the only reason thats keeping me away from AT&T is the 2GB cap on their 3G data network. I'm using T-mobile with HSPA + in my area and I get a constant 6Mbps down and 1.8Mbps up (which is much faster than AT&T) and I have unlimited download (well T-mobile saids it is but in reality is 10GB cap and they throttle me down to edge speeds after that until my monthly billing cycle resets) but still far better than the measly 2GB per month.

I tether my nexus one with tmobile's 3G all the time and when I am tethered to my notebook, I watch alot of youtube videos, or any type of videos streaming including hulu. I've tested out my usage pattern and by watching 6-7 3-5 minute videos in 3 hours and surfing the net like I would do normally on my 3G tethered to my macbook pro, I've managed to d/l 308Mb. Now that is not nearly enough for someone who tethers alot and I am sure glad that I have T-mobile with its fast HSPA + that gets pretty much 4G speeds or even better than sprints 4G in my area with a theoretical unlimited (10GB) cap that I think is plenty enough.

Why oh Why AT&T! I should have stayed with AT&T and grandfathered the unlimited 3G plan.. But then again I am saving $40-$50 a month with T-mobile with the exact same unlimited 3G + unlimited text plan. :)

You are not even remotely close to an average user. If you think 600+ GB per month is anything near average usage, you're crazy.

Also, AT&T's unlimited plan was never unlimited. It was 5 GB. However, without tethering and with downloads limited to 20MB over 3G, it was basically unlimited.
 
It is only a matter of time before software will be sold on blu ray only.
No freakin' way. Software distribution on Blu-ray isn't going anywhere. A CD is overkill for 99% of applications. The big ones might be on a DVD or two, but short of a few specialty titles carrying gargantuan amounts of media, software isn't going to be distributed on Blu-ray, and certainly not exclusively on Blu-ray.

BD-equipped PCs have single digit market share, and that's not really going anywhere--it's remained essentially static for over two years.
Download only for stuff that size are a long ways off.
Nobody's suggesting that frequent 10GB+ downloads are around the corner. The point is that they're not necessary.

Blu-ray has its place in the living room, and that's not going anywhere. It has its place for niche use on a computer, and that's not going anywhere, either. It has no place on the typical computer. That's why the norm has become to distribute Blu-ray films with a digital copy for use on other devices, leaving the BD for the home cinema or properly equipped living room.

Digital copies are taking off for the casual and mobile viewing, as they should. There's no staggering demand for Blu-ray films on computers except by people searching for something to whine about.
 
It's a shame you have nice home theater equipment and can't tell the difference. You're missing out!

The different between 720P to 1080P is smaller than the difference between 480P and 720P.

But, yes. He must be blind. 1080P Blu ray destroys ANY type of down loadable file.
 
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