And falling, by the MINUTE, as word spreads that Apple is no longer interested at all in the business of making cutting-edge audio-video workstations.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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And falling, by the MINUTE, as word spreads that Apple is no longer interested at all in the business of making cutting-edge audio-video workstations.
TRUST ME on this.
hmmm. care to elaborate on this? for audio i slightly agree, video - i dont agree. (high end stuff, not crappy BD playbackAnd falling, by the MINUTE, as word spreads that Apple is no longer interested at all in the business of making cutting-edge audio-video workstations.
TRUST ME on this.
)i feel for you man, i used to have 25GB, and before that 12GB
oh really, i didnt know the US had caps! good to know
Yes and more are coming.. It just when is it coming is another story.. ISP here are jump on board with caps.. I think the more the speed goes up I think we will see more ISP adding caps.. Comcast was the first one to start it and there are more on the way.. Hell Comcast been buying out other companies so there meant be least ISP to choose from..
hmmm. care to elaborate on this? for audio i slightly agree, video - i dont agree. (high end stuff, not crappy BD playback
ALL the Pro App base are up in arms about the shoddy treatment from Apple regarding length between updates of programs, keeping them anywhere near current with the competition, and in the video realm, buying programs like Shake and providing no viable alternative, and shelving them like some oil company shelves every efficient carburetor design for the past century. Just recently the Mac Pro had an unbelievable audio problem that had studios going crazy for months with Mac Pros overheating just playing iTunes and most pro audio interfaces clicking and popping. It was beyond ridiculous.
Just look around. The writing's been on the wall for the last two years now. It started about the time the uproar came from pros who worked in offices and homes with window walls and hated glossy screens, and it's spread to every nook and cranny of the pro app world.
Jobs is either nuts, or he wants Apple dead, consciously or unconsciously. Couldn't be simpler.
whats ironic is that australia is SLOWLY getting more data, and we now haev a few small companies that offer true unlimited data use! it seems we are advancing as our infrustructre grows.
will take a while though, i cant get 90% of ISPs that city people can.those are fair, solid points. given those points it would appear as though apple is turning away from the professional market - turning towards the consumer and prosumer (such as myself), not to mention the market for portable devices (they are focusing EVERYTHING on that now it seems).ALL the Pro App base are up in arms about the shoddy treatment from Apple regarding length between updates of programs, keeping them anywhere near current with the competition, and in the video realm, buying programs like Shake and providing no viable alternative, and shelving them like some oil company shelves every efficient carburetor design for the past century. Just recently the Mac Pro had an unbelievable audio problem that had studios going crazy for months with Mac Pros overheating just playing iTunes and most pro audio interfaces clicking and popping. It was beyond ridiculous.
Just look around. The writing's been on the wall for the last two years now. It started about the time the uproar came from pros who worked in offices and homes with window walls and hated glossy screens, and it's spread to every nook and cranny of the pro app world.
Jobs is either nuts, or he wants Apple dead, consciously or unconsciously. Couldn't be simpler.
possible solutions for apple?
Are you sure?
Are you sure? I thought that the HDMI audio was bitstream (or LPCM), not analog. The DACs would be in the target device, not in a "sound card" in the Apple.
See http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2466786&tstart=60
If the Apple passes the source digital stream to the playback device, the sound is as good as the disc. Sub-par (or excellent) sound cards aren't an issue.
Are you sure? I thought that the HDMI audio was bitstream (or LPCM), not analog. The DACs would be in the target device, not in a "sound card" in the Apple.
See http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2466786&tstart=60
If the Apple passes the source digital stream to the playback device, the sound is as good as the disc. Sub-par (or excellent) sound cards aren't an issue.
whats ironic is that australia is SLOWLY getting more data, and we now haev a few small companies that offer true unlimited data use! it seems we are advancing as our infrustructre grows.
those are fair, solid points. given those points it would appear as though apple is turning away from the professional market - turning towards the consumer and prosumer (such as myself), not to mention the market for portable devices (they are focusing EVERYTHING on that now it seems).
possible solutions for apple?
I've talked about it over and over again. Split the company into two companies; one a fad toymaker and the other the traditional computer division. Leave Jobs as the CEO of Apple-O or whatever they want to call the toy division and FIND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SERVICE A BASE to CEO the COMPUTER division, and start making cutting edge workstations again. Fastest processors, most current video cards, Blu-ray support throughout the entire OS, as well as authoring software that "just works."
It couldn't be simpler. But Jobs and his toy crew have to be removed from the computer division; they're POISON.
Then, once Apple-O goes bankrupt from cheaper and flashier competition that won't be subject to his personal phobias, fetishes, and petty wars (think iPads that DO implement flash), Jobs' failure won't take Apple COMPUTERS with it.
I personally think there's going to be a revolt against mobile 24/7 computing, about the nth time the boss is able to call someone into work on a weekend, and when people finally figure out that Job's newest wrist iTV is killing people driving while watching the damned thing.
Desktop workstations, and working at a desk, and the ability to be able to LEAVE your work at a desk, isn't going anywhere.
Jobs, on the other hand?
I've talked about it over and over again. Split the company into two companies; one a fad toymaker and the other the traditional computer division. Leave Jobs as the CEO of Apple-O or whatever they want to call the toy division and FIND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SERVICE A BASE to CEO the COMPUTER division, and start making cutting edge workstations again. Fastest processors, most current video cards, Blu-ray support throughout the entire OS, as well as authoring software that "just works."
It couldn't be simpler. But Jobs and his toy crew have to be removed from the computer division; they're POISON.
Then, once Apple-O goes bankrupt from cheaper and flashier competition that won't be subject to his personal phobias, fetishes, and petty wars (think iPads that DO implement flash), Jobs' failure won't take Apple COMPUTERS with it.
I personally think there's going to be a revolt against mobile 24/7 computing, about the nth time the boss is able to call someone into work on a weekend, and when people finally figure out that Job's newest wrist iTV is killing people driving while watching the damned thing.
Desktop workstations, and working at a desk, and the ability to be able to LEAVE your work at a desk, isn't going anywhere.
Jobs, on the other hand?
I'll run the computer division, BLU RAY FOR ALL! Unless you don't want the superior quality, then just keep the computer you have now
I think Sony wrecked an entire generations' mental faculties (questionable in the first place) with some sort of video game nonsense that I'm thinking now probably had something to do with making it hard or impossible to steal videogames.
Creating a permanent brat class. Generation Brat. Anti-everything Sony except for Michael Jackson rubbish.
I'll run the computer division, BLU RAY FOR ALL! Unless you don't want the superior quality, then just keep the computer you have now
That's what's really hilarious, or pathetic however you look at it. ANYONE you'd put in that position would have had Blu-ray drives in every Mac the beginning of 2009 at the latest. Probably by Christmas of 2008.
Discounting the few on here with the Jobs' shrines in the living room of course, along with Generation Brat with the Sony targets in the bedroom.
I'd vote for you in a heartbeat, Aaaaaaron.... YOU get it.
Peace, culture, religion, seasons, and trees being planted as a reason for Apple's corporate decisions?
Are you for real?
Considering that most kids today are growing up with Windows PCs at their schools I doubt the market is going to shift 70% to Macs anytime soon.
With that said... I agree with Apple when they make the right decisions and disagree when they don't. Keeping the old SuperDrive and not offering a BD drive is the wrong decision. BD is continuing to gain in the marketplace. It is not failing. If it is actually failing and being phased out would you please provide some links with information that proves that to be true.
Around here, it is almost all iMacs and white MacBooks.
So, is it clear why Apple rejects the BD licensing terms? I haven't studied the question, but, I assume that it is more than a $10 fee -- after all, as a BTO option, Apple could charge an extra $50 if it wanted to. I do recall that Apple specifically publicly rejected the terms. I'm assuming that there are patent issues that Apple does not want to take on.
nonsense. Apple and everyone knows the pro App space is largely mature so updates can come every 2-3 years and all is fine. Competition? there is currently no competition in the spaces Apple deals in, so you're just blowing smoke.
And yeah, sure... there is some secret "carburetor" that gets 60 miles to the gallon that some "oil company" is hiding from everyone! Dude, that one comment alone shows you suffer from delusions.
I've talked about it over and over again. Split the company into two companies; one a fad toymaker and the other the traditional computer division. Leave Jobs as the CEO of Apple-O or whatever they want to call the toy division and FIND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SERVICE A BASE to CEO the COMPUTER division, and start making cutting edge workstations again. Fastest processors, most current video cards, Blu-ray support throughout the entire OS, as well as authoring software that "just works."
It couldn't be simpler. But Jobs and his toy crew have to be removed from the computer division; they're POISON.
Then, once Apple-O goes bankrupt from cheaper and flashier competition that won't be subject to his personal phobias, fetishes, and petty wars (think iPads that DO implement flash), Jobs' failure won't take Apple COMPUTERS with it.
I personally think there's going to be a revolt against mobile 24/7 computing, about the nth time the boss is able to call someone into work on a weekend, and when people finally figure out that Job's newest wrist iTV is killing people driving while watching the damned thing.
Desktop workstations, and working at a desk, and the ability to be able to LEAVE your work at a desk, isn't going anywhere.
Jobs, on the other hand?
You just hit the nail on the head with this post.
Also yes the day will come when some one builds a simple industrial designed tower or mini tower windows computer and offers good support all at a good price. Then apple will have to "put down the toys and start innovating again."
Ah, not sure where you've been for the last 34 years, but that's been Apple's formula when Steve Jobs has run the show. You might want to study Steve's words and actions over the last few decades, this recent interview will get you started on how he thinks.
Why Flash, Floppies and Serial ports are obsolete
What? Our schools are 100% Apple based and have been for decades, so you must live in a very backwards area if that is not the case in your school district.
Nah, BR never took off, wireless took over so Steve is once again ahead of the laggards. After years of promotion, DVDs still far outsell BR, so it's clear that format is the next 8-Track.
No competition, ever hear of Avid? Final cut is still a relative newborn in the world of video editing, it's been a few years since I checked the numbers but avid does outnumber final cut in it's postproduction use, I think fcp had only 30% of the market or something similar.
As for the professional world not needing updates, okay I'm biased because this is my field but the professional video world moves very quickly and therefore needs constant updates. In the past three years alone I've seen three new formats come and go. Also an entirely new type of camera the vslr has appeared, although it is not ready for prime time, that type of camera shows a lot of potential due to it's use of prime lenses. That doesn't need an update?
Also, anyone else remember the removal of FireWire from MacBooks which made it virtually useless for audio professionals (and importing digital video tapes) yeah no competition there?
All right, now you simply MUST quit lying. No less than TEN separate people have told you you were wrong. Now you are no longer simply mistaken, but at best a liar, at worst a disinformationalist.
But AVID is nearly bankrupt, so where is the competition? Apple still updates Final Cut to add camera profiles and minor adjustments, but the year after year treadmill is no longer needed. Here is the latest release, plenty for everyone but the 1% of whiners.
Final Cut 7
Yes, the brief removal of Firewire on the lowend 13" MacBook Pro was clearly a mistake, but Apple quickly added it back in so it's no longer an issue.
Would you mind backing that up with some actual data?
Also, may I ask, where do you live? I'm just curious as to what this wonderful place close to the backbone of the Internet, where 404 errors don't exist, where the wonderful uber rich wall mart refuses to stock blu rays, treats their employes well,where schools don't use windows and presumably the sun never sets? I think I may have to move.
Where? Everyone here agrees BR died in the market. next thing you'll probably tell me is "oil companies" are hiding super secret carburetor designs in their vaults!
Where? Everyone here agrees BR died in the market. next thing you'll probably tell me is "oil companies" are hiding super secret carburetor designs in their vaults!
Was this when people showed that blu Ray had exceeded DVD sales? I'm sorry, please backup your ridiculous statements with some actual data.
You are being too generous.
The turtlenecked overlord wants you to buy mediocre quality over-compressed DRM-infested downloads from the inappropriately named Itunes Music Store - he does not want you to buy high quality, high bandwidth, full-featured BD movies that you can share and use on multiple open devices.
You can find $600 Windows laptops with BD drives and movie playback. If Apple cites "patent issues" or the lame "bag of hurt", it's just a smokescreen.
And yeah, sure... there is some secret "carburetor" that gets 60 miles to the gallon that some "oil company" is hiding from everyone! Dude, that one comment alone shows you suffer from delusions.
Please look up "sarcasm" in your cloud dictionary.
Go into your Walmart, try and find Blu-ray DVDs, bet you can't unless your Walmart is in a getto. That's plenty of data for you. Yes, the mountains, i'm on NSFNET. And even if you don't have a decent connection like that, surely you don't see 404's unless it's a local web server issue. Yes, i live in one of the best places in the US, so come join in the fun.
Because 1080p video is so ghetto?
I thought blu Ray was a format for enthusiasts only, how can they afford that?
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