I don't think Apple will make the aTV anywhere near cheap enough for it to be that sort of success. I think you'll have to live with optical disks for anawful lot longer until there is a viable alternative.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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I don't think Apple will make the aTV anywhere near cheap enough for it to be that sort of success. I think you'll have to live with optical disks for anawful lot longer until there is a viable alternative.
I'm not sure if you are really that ignorant, or just playing with people?
All I do know is from your profile page you can't be 45, more like 4.5
Yes, the HD selections you mention are instantaneously available, albeit at 720p.
Using Gigabit LAN, 1080p is streamable, and it won't be too long until we see wireless streaming capable of 100MB/s, which ought to be able to handle 1080P streaming. Interestingly, Netflix is planning to offer 1080p and 5.1 surround sound streaming later this year, for PS3 and 360 users.
For the time being, 720p movies are visually and audibly impressive and satisfying on a 65in Samsung LED. If ever I feel the need, a Netflix BD version arrives in the mail within 24 hours - pop it in the BD player, and voila.
All-in-all, having instant 720p is a good thing, and a promising indication of even better things to come.
For people that do not believe there are no caps in the US here some info..
http://www.newamerica.net/files/Bandwidth Caps for High-Speed Internet in the U.S. and Japan.pdf
I do not see streaming lasting long when people keep going over their usage and losing their Internet..
http://www.newamerica.net/files/Bandwidth Caps for High-Speed Internet in the U.S. and Japan.pdf
I do not see streaming lasting long when people keep going over their usage and losing their Internet..
Please point me to the post which explains how restricting content increases profit for Apple. I must have missed that one.
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You don't need anything like 100MB/s (800Mb/s) to stream 1080p.
The data stream coming off a BluRay being played at single speed is 36Mbs
Around 4 or 5 megaBYTES per second. You can go quite a bit lower than that and still have a very acceptable image quality.
Such speeds are within the capability of a 802.11n wireless networking. And is under the speed of modern (Fiber to the Cabinet) ADSL broadband.
C.
True, I figured that the data stream of Blu-Ray was ~50Mbs.
It's good to know that 1080p and 5.1 will be streaming sooner than later, hence Hulu, TV.com, and Netflix's recent announcement.
Looking forward.
Get a grip, there. Whilst in the quaint image of Little Olde Englande you have in your head, we still have cobblestone streets and thatched roofs and "50 quid" is $15.00, England is not remotely behind the US in anything. Just because you don't understand the vagaries of ADSL or ADSL2, doesn't mean your country has better phonelines than any other western country.
European launches of consoles, mobile phones, and technical advancements like bluray/dvd are only ever a few months behind the US market at the most, and that has far more to do with the convenience of launching to a market that is just ONE country and uses the same voltage as Japan (where most of these products originate) than standards being defined in Silicon Valley. The world wide web was invented in the UK and we had 3G YEARS before the US.
You have not called me out on any of "nonsense". You're just repeating what I said to you back to me because I've explicitly called you out on your nonsense so many times:
i) You claimed you know the UK really well but you thought £50 was a reasonable amount to spend on monthly broadband (I get 20Mbps broadband down my phoneline free with my satellite subscription and phoneline package for £30)
ii) You thought only dial-up users use modems and then tried to claim this is tech industry jargon
iii) You claimed optical media was not as durable as hard drives, even though HDs fail upon small shocks (unless they contain sudden motion sensors), can be wiped by magnets, and require booting up before being read
iv) Continually made references to the US being more advanced than the UK even though I kept correcting you
v) You responded to my post about how SD cards couldn't take over from BD within the next 10 years because they're still prohibitively expensive at 1080p-capable read speeds, especially SDXC cards which run for $500/64gig, by telling me that "I was not aware of the technicalities that you have (sic)" before going on to tell me about SDXC, as if I hadn't mentioned it in the very post you were quoting, without making any case for how a 64gig card will cost as little as a BD-RW anytime soon.
The above is by no means a comprehensive list. There is no way this kid is just playing with people. For my own part, I'm just going to ignore him from now on. Nonetheless,
"Well, we need to keep in mind Steve is ahead of the market by about 5 years, so there wouldn't be a point to slow down the Mac platform by trying to include obsolete technology like Blu-ray."
...will go down as my favourite fanboi quotation in the 6-odd years I've been visiting this site.
Answer me this, why does Apple refuse to licence Fairplay to other CE manufacturers?
That was audio only, and how is that one going now?
But again, since we are talking about video here, why has Apple not licenced fairplay to other CE manufacturers?
I think at this point they want to be able to change it without having to give forewarning about said change. I base this on the fact that Apple doesn't talk about changes to upcoming products to pretty much anyone but suppliers, which is different (in most cases) to how MS operates (whom licenses practically everything out).
I also think it is an easy way to keep people buying their hardware (where they make the most money).
Probably because all DRM schemes are based on secret keys and chains of trust. And all the ones that have been licensed have been compromised.
I think you might be forgetting that in almost all cases, Apple is not a rights holder or content creator. Which means it only stands to profit as a middle-man in a transaction between content creators and end users. Once costs, data transfer, credit card fees are deducted, Apple makes a very thin profit on each transaction.
Apple *is* looking to make money. As much as possible. But it can only do that by maximising the sheer quantity of transactions that pass through its servers. Hence, catalog restrictions make no commercial sense. As far as Apple is concerned, the more the merrier.
Example: There would be a huge market for American TV shows in the UK - which were available at the time of the US Broadcast. But Apple is never going to be granted those rights. Because it would jeopardise other ways to monetize the same content.
The iTunes store regional blocks are demanded by the rights owners.
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LOL!!! BD only used in poor areas?!?
You mean like in Beverly Hills where people have $100'000 home theaters and such?
The countless BD users I know personally here in Switzerland are either total movie buffs or rich. Sometimes both.
It's rather the other way round: Low income people scrounge dvd sale baskets in discount stores or download torrents to their cheap old PC's.
iTunes/AppleTV is just convenient mediocrity packed into a pretty interface.
If Apple wants to stop playing the laughing stock for serious home theater enthusiasts, they will have to drastically rise the bar for picture and audio quality. Considering blu-ray as a temporary offer, would at least buy them some time for the required improvements and win back lost credibility.
But I'm afraid Apple will only turn into a successful provider of iAd infested free medium quality content for mobile users and the poor masses who couldn't afford anything better.
Let's not forget that by the time 1080p downloads finally become widely accessible to the mainstream, the high end home theater equipment and media has most likely already stepped up to 2k or even higher.
Or do you you really think the Japanese high end home theater equipment manufacturers will stop their R&D, so Steve Jobs and Apple can keep up with their hobby?
When the monthly broadband here cost the equivalent of 2 or 3 new BluRay movies its little wonder I have just one movie on the new format and I only got that because it came with a digital copy of the movie so I can use in on my Mac.
Why do people insist BD is a dead format. I still see people lining up to buy music on CDs, iTunes MS hasn't quite killed that off yet.
Why do people insist BD is a dead format. I still see people lining up to buy music on CDs, iTunes MS hasn't quite killed that off yet.
I'd rather squash a 1920x1080 image down to 1440x900 than upscale a 720x480 image up to 1440x900. It's always better to downsample (reduce information) than upsample (create information that isn't there in the first place).
True. But 720p is 1280x720
Which is very close to the native resolution of the panel.
C.
I agree with you here
It does seem they want to make money hard and fast. Sad its taking away from what I believed in Apple. Their computer line If you want Blu-Ray on your Mac, there are plenty of third party drives that do the job well. IMO, Apple views Blu-Ray as a market that is not part of their main business. It is just another peripheral like printers, scanners and digital cameras.
But plugging a printer in is easy, plug it in, install a driver and suddenly you have a printer.
The same cannot be said for bluray, to watch a bluray movie on a third party drive the user must
Install parallels
Installl windows and go through the whole setup of that OS?
Setup the bluray drive within windows.
Installing an entire second operating system to play a movie is an extreme move. Can you image if you had to boot into windows just to print a letter?
EDIT: if a third party bluray playing program came out for Mac OS, then I doubt anyone would have a problem.
haha, awesome
10 days and people still aren't convinced? Blu ray is awesome, why can't we add that awesomeness to our computers without having to put Windows 7 or, even worse, Vista on our Macs?
Everyone else can stream their "acceptable" quality media, but let those who want it, the "enthusiasts" as we have been called, have the best they can get, which is BLU RAY!
I don't care if Steve Jobs and Apple are living a billion years in the future, I live now and blu ray is now.
apple should just charge and let people buy some dieing tech if they want. the whole blu ray issue is really getting old. i won't buy another mac until it's at least got support. i'm happy enough with an external drive. just give support! it really can't be that hard!
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