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Correct, 15 seconds to watch the entire movie start to finish, with no lag... just like in a theater. I think that guy is still using a 1400 baud modem in some primitive country... so he can't understand what we are saying :)
But download version of the movie is never going to be as good as the one from blu-ray though. I am not going to pay iTunes for the inferior quality they offered.
 
Correct, 15 seconds to watch the entire movie start to finish, with no lag...

A very different statement from your original claim of "HD video on the AppleTV takes less than 15 seconds to stream the entire movie"....


I think that guy is still using a 1400 baud modem in some primitive country...

Apparently you don't realize that every time that you brag about your wonderful connection to the non-existent NSFnet, or mock someone for their "primitive" Internet connections, you are in fact emphasizing the point that the Internet is not ready for high quality 1080p downloads.

My "primitive country" is a wealthy community in northern Silicon Valley - yet 1.7 Mbps DSL is the best that I can get. That fact ensures a long and prosperous future for Blu-ray Discs.

(ps: I've never heard of a 1400 baud modem, was that a proprietary Apple device?)
 
A very different statement from your original claim of "HD video on the AppleTV takes less than 15 seconds to stream the entire movie"....




Apparently you don't realize that every time that you brag about your wonderful connection to the non-existent NSFnet, or mock someone for their "primitive" Internet connections, you are in fact emphasizing the point that the Internet is not ready for high quality 1080p downloads.

My "primitive country" is a wealthy community in northern Silicon Valley - yet 1.7 Mbps DSL is the best that I can get. That fact ensures a long and prosperous future for Blu-ray Discs.

(ps: I've never heard of a 1400 baud modem, was that a proprietary Apple device?)
Blu-ray is not just for movie watching, its also for Data storage. I heard (not confirmed though) from panasonic that a blu-ray disc can last about 50-100 years, i bet thats a lot longer than a normal hard drive.

Download and hard drive space all have their own advantage but so does phyical media. The demand for both will never go away and thus both will never died.
 
My "primitive country" is a wealthy community in northern Silicon Valley - yet 1.7 Mbps DSL is the best that I can get. That fact ensures a long and prosperous future for Blu-ray Discs.

ITA - a year ago I live just out of town, by no mean in a rural area but no DSL, we could get 3G wireless which was fast but cost the earth and had a 10Gb limit, downloading movies you'd hit that in a matter of hours!

BluRay and DVD is the only option for movies not on TV.

As for storage, again I just want the option to copy my files to one BD, vital files I have on both DVD and a back up HDD.
 
FCP supports BD authoring??

The latest version of Final Cut Pro 7 allows easy export to the proper format including menus and extras, and I haven’t looked into it in depth, but I would assume you could then just use Toast (which does support BD) to burn it, even if DVD Studio Pro doesn’t directly support it. It was one of the significant things talked about with the release of Final Cut Pro 7 not that long ago.

jW
 
The latest version of Final Cut Pro 7 allows easy export to the proper format including menus and extras, and I haven’t looked into it in depth, but I would assume you could then just use Toast (which does support BD) to burn it, even if DVD Studio Pro doesn’t directly support it. It was one of the significant things talked about with the release of Final Cut Pro 7 not that long ago.

jW

thats what i mean, FCP 7 has supported the ability to use BD "quality" (bitrates, res etc via ProRes) but NOW SDVD SP can directly burn the menus/formats and whatnot to BD discs just as you would with any other software (Adobe etc).

as for Toast - it can burn BDs/menus etc but is very limited for customisability as is expected.
 
2020-somethin, year of Blu

Steve has been on the wrong side of HD since he declared 2005, the year of HD. Everyone go out and buy Sony's FX1 for only $3895, he said as he unfurled one of those monsters on stage.

The Blu-ray email dude has got to start calling him on some of the reality distortion stuff.
 
Link? All I can find is him saying it was the year of HD editing because they were releasing Final Cut....

I found this interesting quote by Jobs from the Engadget live update of the Macworld 2005 keynote when I did a Google search for "2005 the year for high-definition video".

Steve Jobs at Macworld 2005 said:
"We're anxiously awaiting Blu-ray so we can burn high definition DVDs"
:rolleyes:

http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/11/live-from-macworld-2005-steve-jobs-keynote/
 
I found this interesting quote by Jobs from the Engadget live update of the Macworld 2005 keynote when I did a Google search for "2005 the year for high-definition video".

:rolleyes:

http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/11/live-from-macworld-2005-steve-jobs-keynote/

good find, people need to realise and understand that nearly all of the good ideas and products that came from cupertino...including iPods and iTunes were originally someone else's.

I'm not aware of one thing that Jobs has ultimate credit for that has ever been a roaring success.

iCon (the book he tried to ban) is great read and truth slayer !

He is wrong 99% of the time...
 
good find, people need to realise and understand that nearly all of the good ideas and products that came from cupertino...including iPods and iTunes were originally someone else's.

I'm not aware of one thing that Jobs has ultimate credit for that has ever been a roaring success.

iCon (the book he tried to ban) is great read and truth slayer !

He is wrong 99% of the time...

Duh, Apple is an innovative company, not an inventive company. The inventive companies are usually the businesses that like to partner with Universities and their primary goal is to research research research, not sell sell sell.
 
Duh, Apple is an innovative company, not an inventive company. The inventive companies are usually the businesses that like to partner with Universities and their primary goal is to research research research, not sell sell sell.

It's innovation, but in baby steps. The iPhone is a great piece of tech, even with it's faults, same with the iPad. But the rest of the Apple hardware hasn't really taken a big step since the first iMac, the rest have been a slow progression but no huge jumps. In many ways PC have more tech than Mac, look at touchscreens, visual recognition on laptops using the camera, finger print scanning.

I love my Mac, I just wish we had the option of some of the toys now found on PCs.
 
In many ways PC have more tech than Mac, look at touchscreens, visual recognition on laptops using the camera, finger print scanning.

I love my Mac, I just wish we had the option of some of the toys now found on PCs.

Please show Apple some of those solutions that don't suck major ass in the usability/reliability department. Then they might reconsider it. They're exactly that, toys. And their usefulness is questioned often.

Fingerprint not detected

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Fingerprint not detected

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Fingerprint not detected

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"Computer, start server management console"

//Launches control panel :/
 
Please show Apple some of those solutions that don't suck major ass in the usability/reliability department. Then they might reconsider it. They're exactly that, toys. And their usefulness is questioned often.

Well maybe Apple will introduce them only when they are perfected, like touchscreen on a phone and decent LCD screens for their computers.

I just think right now Apple needs a something new for the desktop computers in the same way the iPad will shake up the portable market.
 
Well maybe Apple will introduce them only when they are perfected, like touchscreen on a phone and decent LCD screens for their computers.

I just think right now Apple needs a something new for the desktop computers in the same way the iPad will shake up the portable market.

I'd be more tempted to skip touch all together and go to something like a VR glove and a 3D space desktop.

Though something like ARI off Heavy rain would be awesome... without the eye-bleeding.
 
Steve has been on the wrong side of HD since he declared 2005, the year of HD. Everyone go out and buy Sony's FX1 for only $3895, he said as he unfurled one of those monsters on stage.

So true!!!
First we had to endure the endlessly delayed AVCHD support.
Then Apple was prematurely trying to remove Firewire from Macbooks, although most Mac videographers had been investing into HDV equipment due to said lack of AVCHD support.
And now the blu-ray fiasco.

Apple's HD video support has not been very expressive.
 
Fingerprint not detected

What's this on?

I have a Thinkpad T61p and a Latitude XT2 with fingerprint readers, and they work fine. (I've even changed my screensaver to lock the screen after 60 seconds of inactivity - since a quick swipe of my finger (T61p) or thumb (XT2) kills the lock and screensaver.)



"Computer, start server management console"

//Launches control panel :/

Did you download the "Kiwi Speech Recognition" plugin?

;)
 
thats what i mean, FCP 7 has supported the ability to use BD "quality" (bitrates, res etc via ProRes) but NOW SDVD SP can directly burn the menus/formats and whatnot to BD discs just as you would with any other software (Adobe etc).

as for Toast - it can burn BDs/menus etc but is very limited for customisability as is expected.

I'm not sure what you mean by "BD quality" as FCP as always been able to work with superior quality video than what BD can offer. And, AFAIK, while Final Cut Studio 3 now offers the ability to encode into a BD-friendly H.264 file via Compressor you still cannot author (make menus, etc.,) a Blu-ray disc using FCS. You need Adobe Encore for that. For about 5yrs now DVD SP has supported the ability to author an HD-DVD onto a regular DVD but the space available was obviously small and the disc would only playback on certain Macs w/SuperDrives and some Toshiba HD-DVD players.


Lethal
 
...You need Adobe Encore for that. For about 5yrs now DVD SP has supported the ability to author an HD-DVD onto a regular DVD but the space available was obviously small and the disc would only playback on certain Macs w/SuperDrives and some Toshiba HD-DVD players.


Lethal
There hasnt been any movements on this to date? I see that option in DVDSP and it makes me laugh. Im still using Toast to create single one-off BD discs. No menus of course. We have Encore but I havent had to create a menu to date. How is Encore for menus?
 
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