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I can't imagine the MBP 13 and MBA being updated in October. Imagine if you just bought a new MBP 13 or Air.

People who were paying attention to the news already knew a new Air was coming later this year.
 
My prediction:

Apple keeps MacBook Pro 13 inch and 15 inch as it is and they will present the new MacBook Pro 16inch as the way of the future (just like the introductions of the iPhone X). And next year, hopefully, we are going to get a 14 inch MacBook Pro as well as a predecessor for the 13 inch.

That means both products will be much pricier.
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I want that 14 inch MacBook Pro soooooo bad. Especially if it comes with a dedicated GPU.
Oh no, so basically they will be marketing them as God-tier MacBook Pros for thousands of dollars more than the thousands they already cost? I hope not.
 
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Normally I would presume the 16" would replace the 15", as a better large screen laptop. But the modern Applemart who doesn't mind having more skus than anyone can comprehend will surely charge $200-400 for this 16" model and keep the 15" unmodified right where it is for at least another year.
MBA: $1,099
Low end MBP: $1,299
High end MBP 13: $1,799
MBP 15: 2,399
MBP 16: 2,999
 
I think his reminder still stands. To me, the “1st gen product” concern isn’t that you won’t like it after 14 days or that it will have a manufacturing defect appear within 1 year. For me it’d be more longevity concerns, and for Gen2 to have significant improvements based on feedback/experience with the new form factor.
So by your advice then, you should wait 2-3 years after the gen 2 product to be certain of its longevity then?
 
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This would tie out nicely with the six new model numbers that haven't been released yet - two at each size, with some sort of differing set of options.

If they want to get anywhere near $3k for these things they better come loaded with new memory and ssds.
 
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Oh no, so basically they will be marketing them as God-tier MacBook Pros for thousands of dollars more than the thousands they already cost? I hope not.
What they did with the original retina 15 inch MacBook Pro. They introduced updated original MacBook pros, then introduced the new retina MacBook Pro. It was like an extra $500.
 
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Pointless reminder because anyone can buy a 1st gen Apple product and:

1. Return it within 14-days if there is anything seriously wrong with it.
2. Get it fixed under warranty within the first year if there is anything wrong that develops.

Except that most problems (butterfly keyboard, GPU soldering, image retention in MacBook Pros and iMac etc) occur long after 14 days - many of them occur outside of the one year warranty period (but within the useful life of the computer)...

As someone that has a butterfly 2018 MBP - the keyboard has already sufferend from dead keys at about the 6-9 month mark, but it is intermittent, and as there is no direct Apple presence here (only 3rd party) - it's a bit hard to be without my 3000 USD computer for a couple of weeks...

I wonder if the 2019 16" will finally solve the keyboard defects or get rid of the useless (for me) TouchBar, and if it will signify yet another price hike into astronomical territory - the 2018 MBP15 16GB/512GB was already a ridiculous price for such a fragile bit of kit (and underwhelming-despite-the-expense GPU performance - which I don't need anyway for the HW development work that I do)
 
This would tie out nicely with the six new model numbers that haven't been released yet - two at each size, with some sort of differing set of options.

If they want to get anywhere near $3k for these things they better come loaded with new memory and ssds.
Safe to say the brand new 16" model will start at $2999, and ship with 16 GB of RAM and 256 GB SSD.
 
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I think they'll have issues if you can get the same components on a Dell for thousands less. They can keep an "Apple Premium" but too much and users might balk, just as they did on iPhones.

Meh. We’ve been saying that forever.
They continue to gouge, gouge, gouge and don’t seem to care what the rest of the market does.
 
Could the 13-inch coming in October not include a touch bar? Or perhaps a different touch bar? That might make the short time period between the July and October updates less strange. The touch bar difference could then be the basis of the "all new design."
 
I remember the panic over receiving an LG panel as opposed to a Samsung one.

Indeed. Unfortunately for me, I only found out much later, when it was far too late to do anything about it. Of course it doesn’t mean for a moment that the same thing will happen here, but LG don’t exactly have an inscrutable reputation when it comes to small/medium LCD panels.
 
I was hoping for a redesigned 14" MBP instead of a 13". That's too bad. Wanted them to basically remove the bezels and keep a similar footprint.

I think this is gonna be like the 2012 Retina model all over again. They are gonna release small updates on the 2019 machines. And then they will introduce a newly designed laptop. That design will gradually trickle down to all models.
In 2012, Apple started out with the Retina line with the 15 inch model. And introduced the 13 inch model several months later.
 
It seems way too early for another refresh. If this is true, I image that this year's earlier refreshes were just to give a little speed bump.

Working in a corporate environment, my main concern is that October release means they would require Catalina and that is way too soon for us to have it certified for use here.

I had actually thought that the recent refreshes meant we were safe until next year. :(

Might have to stock up on the current 15" models before then.
 
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