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Supply Chain Expects New 16-Inch MacBook Pro, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air to Launch in October
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I'd be all over this. I really value larger screen sizes, but I don't really need the power of the latest pros, let alone the power of what might be a "pros pro" 16-in MacBook pro.
I don't think we'd see something like this until next year at the earliest, But who knows? Apple seems to be on a roll with new Mac models lately.
Please Intel/Apple or both put a chip set in the Macbook Air that is faster than my 2 year old iPad!! Must they continue to defang their best selling laptop of all time??
#dontgetit
My ideal MacBook line-up:
- MacBook (11.6-inch) - Intel Core i3 or i5
- MacBook Air (13.3-inch) - Intel Core i3 or i5 + Radeon Pro 555X
- MacBook Pro (15.6-inch) - Intel Core i5, i7 + Radeon Pro 555X or 560X
- MacBook Pro (17.3-inch) - Intel Core i5, i7 or i9 + Radeon Pro 560X, RX 570 or RX 580
- Power MacBook (19.5-inch) - Intel i7, i9 or Xeon E + Radeon RX 570, RX 580, RX 590 or Pro WX 3200
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The 2012 15" Retina MacBook Pro debuted in June of 2012 at $2,199 (2.3GHz/8GB/256) and $2,799 (2.6GHz/8GB/512GB). The $1,999 model debuted as the Late 2013 without a dGPU and a slower clock CPU (2.0GHz/8GB/256GB) and $2599 (2.3GHz/16GB/512/GT750M). The Mid 2014 update to the 15" MacBook Pro moved DRAM up to 16GB for the base model.
It was clear enough back in 2016 that Intel was going to discontinue the Iris Pro iGPU in its 45w TDP H-Series CPU as they had been ignoring Iris in most every CPU anyways. Even the current Iris Plus 645 and 655 are old parts that simply have gotten a clock boost or just renamed as Intel updated their CPU offerings.
Speculation aside, it's impossible to know how Apple is going to position the 16" MacBook Pro...will it be a 15" replacement or a supplement. If it's a replacement, then the scissor keyboard is coming this year, not next year, as any new chassis is going to simply have one kind of mechanism, not switch off from one generation of butterfly to scissors.
Perhaps they will keep the 15" in production and selling, however, I find it odd that unless Comet Lake H-Series ships this fall, Apple has to be content putting the same CPUs in the the 16" MacBook Pro that it put in the 15" refresh back in May, which seems rather pointless. So, two thing need to happen - the scissors keyboard is ready to go already and Comet Lake H-Series is also shipping this fall instead of Q2/2020.
Pricing may or may not go up...remember, this is a rumors site, after all.
"And next year, hopefully, we are going to get a 14 inch MacBook Pro as well as a predecessor for the 13 inch."
Is that like a Star Wars *prequel*?!
Or, a hope they bring back the iBook G4 or Powerbook G3?!
Sorry, couldn't resist! Between auto-correct zaniness and how easy it is to substitute the wrong word, such things happen. Mrs. Malaprop would approve!
Is that like a Star Wars *prequel*?!
Or, a hope they bring back the iBook G4 or Powerbook G3?!
Sorry, couldn't resist! Between auto-correct zaniness and how easy it is to substitute the wrong word, such things happen. Mrs. Malaprop would approve!
In all likelihood, Apple will charge an arm, leg, and kidney for the 16" MBP and it will be touted as a premium over the outgoing 15" model.
In actuality, I imagine this will be an obvious successor to the 2016 MBP refresh in where reduced bezels will yield a larger screen, just as has happened on iPad.
What will Apple innovate next to appease its customers, not shareholders? An iMac without a chin and an upcharge?
In actuality, I imagine this will be an obvious successor to the 2016 MBP refresh in where reduced bezels will yield a larger screen, just as has happened on iPad.
What will Apple innovate next to appease its customers, not shareholders? An iMac without a chin and an upcharge?
Well, with the NVIDIA partners launching around October their new Nvidia Studio lineup, including the Quadro RTX 5000, it would make sense for Apple to refresh their outdated GPU and Laptop lineup overall. Razer comes out with a really nice 17-inch option and massive GPU power for professional artists.
A new keyboard is almost certainly coming soon, if not this year then next, but you're almost certainly not getting the extra ports, so if that's what you're waiting for you're in for an eternity of wait.
Personally, the 4 ports on my work 15" have been fine, I was worried about it, but it hasnt been a problem.
You're not the only one...the non-Retina MacBook Air had always used Intel's 15w TDP Core i5 and i7 CPUs before the Retina MacBook Air was released. This is a complete turnoff given the value proposition the MacBook Air used to represent. The same 1.4GHz and 1.7GHz CPUs that are used in the refreshed 2019 13" MacBook Pro should have been what Apple used last year at intro. Hell, even Whiskey Lake U-Series (i5-8365U and i7-8665U) would have been better choices GPU-wise (UHD 620) than the 7w Y-series w/UHD 617 and the CPU speed of Whiskey Lake would have far surpassed the anemic i5-8210Y they used instead. Apple seems determined to hold the MacBook Air back to sell more entry level 13" MacBook Pros...to me, there is really no point to the 13" MacBook Air after last week's refresh. Just my 2¢.
IMO don't call it "Pro" if it can't continuously operate at full load under normal office conditions. Call it an "Air" or something if portability compromises productivity.
It would explode as soon as the new ones come out, killing your whole family. So ruthless.
Or it would just keep working all the same.
I have a 2015 13" MBP that I replaced the internal 256 SSD with a 1 TB flamethrower. I now triple boot , Mac OSX , Windows, and Fedora Linux. Everything just works. I love having the SD card slot, and all the ports. I am semi-retired, when I walk into a client, this little laptop can join any topology.
As far as the 16 inch .. If its OLED, 64GB RAM, and a real GPU, I'm in! I'd keep the little guy for work, and use the 16 for GAMES muhahaha
As far as the 16 inch .. If its OLED, 64GB RAM, and a real GPU, I'm in! I'd keep the little guy for work, and use the 16 for GAMES muhahaha
My Series-0 Apple Watch and Original Macbook With Retina would disagree. I think you want to be more concerned about the last generation when they're trying to shoehorn in new processors and other tech that was never intended for the original design.
People always say this but for those of us who rely on our laptops for work every day, returning a much needed laptop or taking it in for service is a major inconvenience.
[doublepost=1563910956][/doublepost]Please, please, please don't let these new laptops come with a butterfly keyboard. :-(
A lot of people were saying by 2015 that the Air had become so competent it was encroaching into the 13" Pro's territory, Apple responded by dropping the price of the 13" Pro to $1,299 so it was attractive against the Air's $999 price tag, but as the Pro had 2x the RAM, retina, more ports and was only slightly thicker & heavier, this over compensated and made the Air the one that seemed a bit pointless.
I think what they've done here is set up to try and put a bit of space between the lines again. The Air will stay dual core, office productivity focused with best battery life, and hopefully reach $999 again, they can make the 13" Pro what they want, a more expensive, more powerful machine, while the formerly-nTB Pro will offer a slightly cheaper halfway house between the two for those who did make the most of the increasingly powerful Air, or got used to being able to buy a 13" Pro for $1,299.
I don’t know. They’ve been mostly successful with first-gen designs relative to other companies...
Disagree. I think the ideal Macbook lineup would be:
MBA - 13" / 15"
MBP - 14" / 16"
Sweet! Please new keyboard. My maxed out Mid 2014 15" MBP is starting to hang on Adobe CS. Time for an update.
If a 16" MacBook Pro is coming—all indications point to that—the 15" will be discontinued. One inch is not enough difference between screen sizes to keep both models. A 17" screen size would justify another model, but not 16". That means the recent 15" and 13" MacBook Pro refreshes will be short lived.
What this also tells me, indirectly, is that we will probably be getting all new iMac designs soon. With the Mac Pro coming at the end of this year, along with redesigned MacBook Pro, 2020 is shaping up to be a great year for Apple. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of Mac Pro's design elements incorporated into this new generation.
What this also tells me, indirectly, is that we will probably be getting all new iMac designs soon. With the Mac Pro coming at the end of this year, along with redesigned MacBook Pro, 2020 is shaping up to be a great year for Apple. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of Mac Pro's design elements incorporated into this new generation.
1. Problems develop over years with these defective keyboards. Repeatedly.
2. Apple sells tools, not objects as Sir Jony Ive likes to pontificate about. Students, entrepreneurs, business people, researchers, et al., don’t have a week to give up their laptop for repairs. We need it for our crafts. (Especially when these are known to break repeatedly.)
Even Coca-cola knew to pull New Coke when it alienated customers and was damaging the stories brand.Didn’t matter what the surveys said. It was brand destroying. The butterfly keyboard is doing this to the MacBook brand, and to a smaller extent the Apple brand.
Check out today’s review of the new Air. At the Verge They mention the risks of the keyboards repeatedly. Nobody trusts this design.
It doesn’t matter if you can get it fixed; people don’t want a shoddy design to begin with.
Was just about to purchase the refresh 2019 13 inch MacBook Pro, but after hearing this, I am going to wait. Icing on the cake would be.....
1. Faster CPU And GPU
2. Minimum of 256 SSD
3. Minimum of 16 Gb DDR-4
4. Thinner bezel
5. Better face time camera
6. Improve keyboard
7. Maybe even a 14 inch screen, but I would take a 13 anyway
8. USB-C
1. Faster CPU And GPU
2. Minimum of 256 SSD
3. Minimum of 16 Gb DDR-4
4. Thinner bezel
5. Better face time camera
6. Improve keyboard
7. Maybe even a 14 inch screen, but I would take a 13 anyway
8. USB-C