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Surveys Show Pent-Up Demand for Verizon iPhone, Would-Be AT&T Defectors Waiting to Upgrade

Can I ask a stupid question?

Why is there so much concern about how overloaded Verizon's network will be if an iPhone is added?

How would it be any different than all the Droid users?

Is there something that is more taxing with iPhone usage vs. Droid, Droid 2, Droid Incredible, Droid X?

I'm just confused as to how ONE phone can slow up a network that seemingly can handle four very powerful phones.
 
If the iPhone 4 comes to Verizon in Jan/Feb it will be fun to watch come June when the iPhone 5 comes out and all of you switches can't get upgrade pricing because you just signed a new 2yr contract 4 months ago. :)
 
Data and Phone on Verizon

Isn't one of the restrictions of Verizon's network that users wouldnt be able to be on a call and use data at the same time (ala the Luke Wilson Final Four commercial)? Does anyone know if this anability to talk and surf simultaneously would hold true on a Verizon iPhone? That may be a factor to some people not switching, IMO.
 
macgirlPhD said:
Can I ask a stupid question?

Why is there so much concern about how overloaded Verizon's network will be if an iPhone is added?

How would it be any different than all the Droid users?

Is there something that is more taxing with iPhone usage vs. Droid, Droid 2, Droid Incredible, Droid X?

I'm just confused as to how ONE phone can slow up a network that seemingly can handle four very powerful phones.
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They worry to much. Verizon's network already carriers a lot more data than AT&T's and it does not have any issue. Verizon has a lot of data card subscribers and the data cards eat up a lot more data than the iPhone does.
 
AT&T actually better than Verizon for me

I have my office in Boulder, CO and my home in Longmont. Everywhere in Boulder I got 5 bars of signal from Verizon, and anywhere from 3 to 5 bars for AT&T. No dropped calls or other issues from either.

However, at home AT&T is much better. I can actually make calls from my basement on AT&T even though I only get 2 to 3 bars when upstairs on the main level. I just recently tested a Droid X with Verizon, and upstairs I would get 1 bar or no service and the basement was a no go.

Count me as one that has no complaints about AT&T.
 
nsayer said:
Never let it be forgotten that you get what you pay for.

You're welcome.
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I've had both Sprint and T-Mobile before. Sprint's customer service sucked, but I didn't have any problems with the wireless service itself.

I dislike all carriers, personally, but Verizon doesn't offer me any real benefits over AT&T. I like AT&T's rollover plan. Tethering charges and text messaging plan charges are criminally outrageous on either AT&T or Verizon.

I just want to see a Verizon (and Sprint and T-Mobile) iPhone because that means many more sales for my AAPL. And when my AAPL is happy, I'm happy. :D
 
My history goes: AT&T > Verizon > Back to AT&T

I have no plans to switch back to Verizon if they get the iPhone. I haven't had any problems with AT&T. The only reason I switched from them before is because when they set up their new network it sucked big time. However, now it seems fine. I get full bars in my apartment (which is important, I don't have a land line) but with my Verizon phone I got one bar. I also haven't had any problems with service during travels.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
They worry to much. Verizon's network already carriers a lot more data than AT&T's and it does not have any issue. Verizon has a lot of data card subscribers and the data cards eat up a lot more data than the iPhone does.
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That is all very interesting and all but customers will start to complain when their "SPEED" slows to a crawl below the equivalent of Edge or even GPRS when they have a large number of customers using data at the same time within a smal geographic area. Even though CDMA can scale better with a lot of users in a small area it comes at the expense of speed and voice quality.

Data card users tend to not be concentrated within a small geographic area and they tend to not do a lot of "streaming" of audio and video in the background. Those users also tend to be on data cap plans so they are conscious of their data usage more than an "unlimited" smart phone plan user.
 
Sparrows said:
I was with Verizon for a decade before the iPhone and they sucked. If you're expecting some kind of a miracle over AT&T's quality you're going to be in for a surprise.
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I think it depends where you live. I live in the boonies, lousy att service up
here. Verizon is big up here, works much better.
 
I hope people do relize that some of these # mean nothing because people say they will get the phone if it does go, but never really will.
 
I want an unlocked phone that can cover most of the world.

eastercat said:
I like AT&T too.
It'd be more interesting if they asked who these users would move to if they had a choice with the iphone: AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint or unlocked.
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Obviously that means AT&T in the USA, unless Verizon iPhone is a combo radio. If AT&T and Apple can't offer up such a phone then I'm very likely to jump ship to whomever offers the best deal. Where best deal includes tethering and low data rates.


Dave
 
aristotle said:
That is all very interesting and all but customers will start to complain when their "SPEED" slows to a crawl below the equivalent of Edge or even GPRS when they have a large number of customers using data at the same time within a smal geographic area. Even though CDMA can scale better with a lot of users in a small area it comes at the expense of speed and voice quality.

Data card users tend to not be concentrated within a small geographic area and they tend to not do a lot of "streaming" of audio and video in the background. Those users also tend to be on data cap plans so they are conscious of their data usage more than an "unlimited" smart phone plan user.
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It all depends on what's important to you. Everyone is different. IF the speed slows, or if the voice quality degrades, I'll still take that over no signal or the call not going through.

I'm not sure what other data card users do, but my monthly average is 5.5G for my laptop with a verizon card. We have more than 100 of them for work when we are telecommuting.

I read that the average user is below 500M, so not too much of a drain. I'm still waiting for a report that was done on 20000 smartphone users. A decent sampling, still want to see maybe 10x of that though.

"Validas, a company that analyzes cell phone bills and usage for consumers and corporate customers, analyzed 20,000 consumer phone bills between January and May of 2010 and discovered that Verizon Wireless smartphone customers consume on average about 421 megabytes per month. Meanwhile, AT&T iPhone users consume roughly 25 percent less data, or about 338 megabytes per month.

The full Validas report will be published on September 1."
 
I'm a Verizon guy, I like service in the middle of nowhere and the ability to tether and get relatively fast internet, the Droid works for me, three of us on one plan unlimited talk*, text, data for $100/Month, even in Canada (I'm in California BTW), I'm waiting for a Verizon iPhone that can tether
 
It isn't the phone but how it is used.

The type of apps used have a significant impact on data usage. A bunch of Droid users texting their girl/boy friends will not use anywhere near the bandwidth of a iPhone user watching iPorn.

There are also issues with the manner in which the networks operate. Some may not like how a CDMA network degrades underload.
macgirlPhD said:
Can I ask a stupid question?
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If you are a girl with a PHd you can ask any question you want.
Why is there so much concern about how overloaded Verizon's network will be if an iPhone is added?
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If you add a couple of million new users in a week or two there is always a good chance that they will bunch in places that might result in high demand on the network. Plus one has to look at the type of data iPhone users often consumn.
How would it be any different than all the Droid users?
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Droid users aren't very smart and have questionable sex lives.
Is there something that is more taxing with iPhone usage vs. Droid, Droid 2, Droid Incredible, Droid X?

I'm just confused as to how ONE phone can slow up a network that seemingly can handle four very powerful phones.
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Lack of coordination. Droid users can't hold the phone in one hand while busy with the other.
 
wizard said:
The type of apps used have a significant impact on data usage. A bunch of Droid users texting their girl/boy friends will not use anywhere near the bandwidth of a iPhone user watching iPorn.

There are also issues with the manner in which the networks operate. Some may not like how a CDMA network degrades underload.

If you are a girl with a PHd you can ask any question you want.

If you add a couple of million new users in a week or two there is always a good chance that they will bunch in places that might result in high demand on the network. Plus one has to look at the type of data iPhone users often consumn.

Droid users aren't very smart and have questionable sex lives.


Lack of coordination. Droid users can't hold the phone in one hand while busy with the other.
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Your petulance is unnecessary, please attempt to remain civil. The average Verizon user uses more data than an average person on other carriers, Verizon's network has spare capacity because they want to grow of course, thus it will be able to handle the increased use without a major dent in quality. Also it may be advantageous to stop categorically dismissing people because of the choice of "smart" phone, if you could show a study proving a correlation between using Droids and intelligence/sex life then I will retract my statement.

Have a nice day :)
 
This is excellent for Apple!

Only foreseeable problem, Verizon will probably change it's data plans upon the iPhone's release. :mad:

So, what kind of ad campaign will Verizon roll out to white out the iDon't? :D

Maybe Droid Don't! Haha.
 
CaoCao said:
Your petulance is unnecessary, please attempt to remain civil. The average Verizon user uses more data than an average person on other carriers, Verizon's network has spare capacity because they want to grow of course, thus it will be able to handle the increased use without a major dent in quality. Also it may be advantageous to stop categorically dismissing people because of the choice of "smart" phone, if you could show a study proving a correlation between using Droids and intelligence/sex life then I will retract my statement.

Have a nice day :)
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Nice!

The iPhone may be blazing! Although, AT&T does have a "superior" data network to Verizon (for now). Using various smart phones after switching back from AT&T, the Blackberries on Verizon can't hold a candle to AT&T's. The only issue we were having, last year, was phone calls.

With the changed data plans and AT&T's continuation on punishing its customers, I'm happy we left, but both of them are going to push everyone to net neutrality.
 
I was a Verizon user before the iPhone, and switched to AT&T because of it. I really haven't had many problems with AT&T, but the coverage and quality in my areas of travel did seem better with Verizon. I would consider switching back, but haven't fully made up my mind yet.

edk99 said:
If the iPhone 4 comes to Verizon in Jan/Feb it will be fun to watch come June when the iPhone 5 comes out and all of you switches can't get upgrade pricing because you just signed a new 2yr contract 4 months ago. :)
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Of course, the same will apply to ALL iPhone 4 owners since they'll only be 1 yr into their 2 yr contract.
 
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I can't get service in my hometown (in WV) and I've had AT&T for 7 years now. Vzn was horrible for me. I'll be staying here.
 
It's going to happen in January, or so says a former Verizon employee I know who worked there for so many years. Defectors will help AT&T customers by lightening up the load on AT&T resources.
 
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