Apple pulling a Microsoft. Change for the sake of change, forcing users to relearning something.I hate the new System Settings app on macOS Ventura. I will be sticking with Monterey for a while I think. I don't see why they had to change it. There is nothing wrong with how it functions now. It feels like they are trying to dumb it down to an iPad level.
That would be when I switch back to Windows.It won't be long before you can only install apps from the Mac App Store and have only limited access to the file system. All in the name of privacy and security.
That depends on whether the released version of Ventura has the default Settings window size set to show half of the last visible item in the side bar.How many people will never find half of their preferences because of that idiotic default of not showing a scroll bar unless you are actually scrolling? There's no visual cue whatsoever that the sidebar is scrollable.
This is not a bug, it's a complete UI disaster.report a bug, it's still beta, more and more pathetic news
But that's exactly the issue - by trying to adapt a macOS design language to SwiftUI, Apple has effectively put itself into a corner, and to correct such will take longer than had they simply used the macOS native kit.Does System Settings have some UI and other issues? Yes, but those can be corrected.
Fair arguments, for sure.But that's exactly the issue - by trying to adapt a macOS design language to SwiftUI, Apple has effectively put itself into a corner, and to correct such will take longer than had they simply used the macOS native kit.
To be clear I am not against the concept of a sidebar and input pane, since the persistence of the sidebar does indeed give you quicker access to all the setting categories. But what is frustrating is that Apple chose not to let the Mac be a Mac and execute something that fit the product itself, that took advantage of the minimum Mac screen size (13") and touchpad, and which was befitting the type of command/setting actually on-screen.
SwiftUI was designed for basic user interfaces, specifically with touch and scroll interactivity. Fine, but when you have to go to the extent of removing useful UI elements just because they are not part of SwiftUI, there is clearly a problem with the decision making of this project - or lack of.
The old settings contained several web views, which (while skilfully implemented) hopefully was part of the reason they decided to rewrite it. Many of the old panes were were built once and hardly ever changed, which is the downside of building each pane by hand.SwiftUI for Mac has some very rough edges that cut into the user experience. Things that AppKit has been doing right all along.
Well, they have a “crack team” working on picking names for macOS releases, maybe after witnessing their success they assembled such team for UI design, too 🤔No, Ventura has enough beta issues. The System Settings have a design problem. It's like it was designed by a bunch of interns on crack.
I had to ask here on the forum how to use "Unsend a Message" in Mail because I couldn't see it. I opened a ticket for a feature request to remove a Reminder in Mail. It took them 6 weeks to answer that there is a gesture available. The gesture shows a white on yellow icon.
Looks like they need more time on this release. They didn’t need to ship this with Ventura. They could have punted it to the next MacOS release. And they really don’t need to have annual releases with all new features every year. Release stuff when it’s ready, really ready. And do some proper quality control like years ago.
Breaking news: A beta has bugs in it.
You just don't know it, but you REALLY want ads. Apple knows best. Please stop dissenting and go stand in line for iPhone 14 Pro Max Ultra Edition Air pre-orders. Only two months away from delivery, hurry!Ug, record profits but a fading software experience and the specter of ads in all the base apps?
Since Beta 1, when I noticed that they revamped it to match iOS, I knew that it would not be polished enough for release by the Fall and why I made up my mind that I am also NOT going to be updating to Ventura in the Fall. The other nify features just don't justify the upgrade, IMHO. Maybe by macOS 13, it will be polished enough, but in Ventura, yeah, I just don't see them fixing it by Sept or even Oct...just too many changes happening too quickly on that front. Give it another year and with that time, it will be mostly fixed, I believe.I hate the new System Settings app on macOS Ventura. I will be sticking with Monterey for a while I think. I don't see why they had to change it. There is nothing wrong with how it functions now. It feels like they are trying to dumb it down to an iPad level.
Dude... We've had to toggle always show the scroll bar for several years now.How many people will never find half of their preferences because of that idiotic default of not showing a scroll bar unless you are actually scrolling? There's no visual cue whatsoever that the sidebar is scrollable.