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I actually miss the days of the subsidized phone and 2 year contracts. Now the carriers have their own ways of trapping you in contracts. Pay $1000 for the device over 2 or 3 years. Take our $1000 trade in credit for your phone however it will be divided over 3 years and if you leave earlier well you lose that credit and have to pay off the phone.
 
Unfortunately from what I heard from industrial rumor: older plans are planned to be phased out completely sometime next year, so all users will need to migrate to new plan eventually. So essentially, unfortunately this is going to be price increase in the end.

Users can opt out for now, but eventually they’ll be forced to move to new plan if they want to keep T-mobile.

That is probably true however, I don't know why T-Mobile would be handling it quite this way. Why not keep things as they are now and only address potential changes/upgrades as certain plans are actually being phased out in the coming year? This seems like an unnecessary step and will cost them more customers than waiting until next year and dealing with it then.
 
They are all like this. I had Verizon ages ago and they were throwing extra services on my phone (dumb phone days). I went to AT&T and they did the same. Now I am with T-Mobile and they aren’t any better, but at least my bill is cheaper and my phone actually works in my house and at work. If you think the other big carriers are better and don’t do shady stuff, you’re way wrong.
I travel all over the US and T-Mobile has the worst service out of the big three. It's not even close. So yes, the other big carries are better, meaning AT&T and Verizon in this case. I never said they all don't do shady stuff, because they do.
 
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I travel all over the US and T-Mobile has the worst service out of the big three. It's not even close. So yes, the other big carries are better, meaning AT&T and Verizon in this case. I never said they all don't do shady stuff, because they do.
I travel outside the US also and one of the reasons why I went to T-Mo. I got better service with them than the others. I get it, we won’t have the same result and I tell people to go with the cell carrier that works for you with the best price. There is no such thing as a cell carrier working 100% all over. I was just in France last summer and no issues with service.
 
I actually miss the days of the subsidized phone and 2 year contracts. Now the carriers have their own ways of trapping you in contracts. Pay $1000 for the device over 2 or 3 years. Take our $1000 trade in credit for your phone however it will be divided over 3 years and if you leave earlier well you lose that credit and have to pay off the phone.
This is why I just buy my iPhone through Apple. I can just jump to another carrier without any issues.
 
That is probably true however, I don't know why T-Mobile would be handling it quite this way. Why not keep things as they are now and only address potential changes/upgrades as certain plans are actually being phased out in the coming year? This seems like an unnecessary step and will cost them more customers than waiting until next year and dealing with it then.
A part me doubts this seeing they still offer the old plans now. We can see if they are still there after 10/17.
 

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I’d be very surprised if this doesn’t violate consumer protection laws in a lot of U.S. states. If T-Mobile subscribers start contacting state AGs or consumer protection agencies, some states are likely to force T-Mobile to do this diffferently/better.

Among the problems here, though, is that it probably takes more time to deal with state regulators than to call T-Mobile support.
 
I travel all over the US and T-Mobile has the worst service out of the big three. It's not even close. So yes, the other big carries are better, meaning AT&T and Verizon in this case. I never said they all don't do shady stuff, because they do.
But nothing provides good customer service like T-Mobile, especially when they went Uncarrier. AT&T essentially ruined the iPhone experience by being exclusive carrier for years and they took advantage of customers by making most of iPhone feature as add ons.(remember tethering? You had to pay extra to get it) . Verizon, at first they were good, until they too became more like AT&T after they started carrying iPhone.

The other big carriers are bigger and has better coverage but their relations with customers are absolute poor. T-Mobile, they are still customer first compared to the other carrier. (Even though I question this latest move however)
 
"We are not raising the price of any of your plans; we are moving you to a newer plan with more benefits that costs you more," T-Mobile instructs employees to say.


Fixed it!
 
You are right about mergers. Most mergers are the joining of two UNDER-performing companies. And they always seem to sell it as if they’re going to combine two turds and end up with a bar of gold or something.

Over 60% of all mergers, when reviewed 1 year later, end up being worth LESS than the original value of the two companies added together pre-merger!
2 turkeys don’t make an eagle - Vic Gundotra
 
I have an old promo One plan $100 for 2 lines. Going to be very disappointed if they move me. without adding new customer promos we’re looking at way more than $5 a month per line.

They don’t mention it, but if we opt out… how long before they come back and try this again? I doubt they’ll leave it at this.
 
I travel outside the US also and one of the reasons why I went to T-Mo. I got better service with them than the others. I get it, we won’t have the same result and I tell people to go with the cell carrier that works for you with the best price. There is no such thing as a cell carrier working 100% all over. I was just in France last summer and no issues with service.

As with anything, it depends on where you travel/live. Where I used to live, and where I live now, AT&T had the 'best signal strength.' However, signal strength and bandwidth availability are two vastly different things. T-Mobile would only have 1 bar but far better throughput.

Where I live now, T-Mobile has by FAR the best signal strength and bandwidth availability; it's not even a contest. AT&T and Verizon are a distant second.

Additionally, I save at least $50/month with T-Mobile, plus hey, free Netflix. :)
 
Makes not much difference in my eyes when that's pretty much like giving them the checking account info. 🤣
Because of T-Mobile's new requirement to autobill a checking account or debit card to continue receiving the autopay discount, I just set up a new subsidiary checking account number with my bank. They fully understood the need, considering the security considerations with giving T-Mobile (or others) bank account info, and this is how they recommend dealing with it. It took very little time and can be set up with a monthly auto transfer from my main checking account to this "Express" account (bank's term) to cover the payment going to T-Mobile each month.
 
The Un-carrier becomes... just one of the carriers. I never found them much cheaper than Verizon, maybe a few bucks, but with much worse reception in my area. RIP competition, now Verizon/ATT will have no incentive to compete. Man, I miss Sprint.
 
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How do you like Pure Talk? I’m considering leaving Verizon for either Pure Talk or Patriot Mobile.
I've been pretty happy so far. I was super nervous to make the switch, but I feel like it's at least as good/bad as T-mobile was in terms of coverage in my area. I was initially looking at Mint Mobile because of price, but pivoted at the last minute because I read that their customer service isn't that good. The Customer Service team at Pure Talk has been great. I had some issues porting over my number, so having a helpful CS team was really appreciated.
 
Just called this morning and was told the Magenta Max plan was not part of the migration so will see how that plays out next week.
 
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I actually miss the days of the subsidized phone and 2 year contracts. Now the carriers have their own ways of trapping you in contracts. Pay $1000 for the device over 2 or 3 years. Take our $1000 trade in credit for your phone however it will be divided over 3 years and if you leave earlier well you lose that credit and have to pay off the phone.
Yes. The "no contract" claim is as bogus today as it ever was. It's just two- (or now sometimes three-) year "contracts by another name."
 
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