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T-Mobile to Sell iPhone in Germany: November 1st?

T-Mobile announcing German iPhone deal tomorrow?

T-Mobile announcing German iPhone deal tomorrow?


Perhaps demonstrating how wide the rift between T-Mobile Europe and T-Mobile USA really is, Germany's Rheinische Post is reporting that Deutsche Telekom will announce tomorrow that its carrier unit will exclusively offer the iPhone in Germany. Details on the partnership are slim at best, but the two most important nuggets of information seem to be known: November 1 for €450 (about $612), which we assume is for the 8GB unit. Of course, the next biggest question is whether this'll be an EDGE or 3G unit -- and if it's 3G
 
Dreyfus said:
Do you have any idea what "socialist" means? Germany has never been socialist and there is no free-market economy in socialism. T-Mobile was not linked to German Telecom, it was German Telecom.

At least in these days they had properly qualified staff, real engineers and highly trained support staff (they could even talk you through jumper settings and alternate configurations on the phone)... thanks to free market and stock exchange you now have butchers and bakers installing phone lines and poor underpaid people with strange accents on the "hotline"... great improvement that :(

Cheers
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All true but for the accent remark. I've had my share of experience with purely German hotline idiots.
 
hcopp said:
seeing as apple just had 500,000 people buy a phone in June and there would be immense backlash, not to mention quite a small market for an updated iphone as everyone just bought one this week. Apple will not update the iPhone for christmas
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I tend to agree. It would be a bad show by Apple to ship a 3G phone so soon after pushing out a 2.5G phone to its strongest supporters.

I think we will be seeing numerous software updates between now and Christmas, but no new hardware before MacWorld in January.
 
hdasmith said:
We are you all so fussed about 3G?? I really don't understand. I have a Vodagroan 3G mobile (SonyEricsson V600i), and don't use 3G AT ALL! I don't do video calls, I don't use MMS. The iPhone is right up my street as is! I don't know anyone that does use the 3G functionality of their phone, even though they might have it.
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That's because you have a Sony Ericsson, and this thread is about the iPhone which is trying to push the envelope as far as data goes.

The point is whether Apple will pull out a 3G iPhone this November or not. 3G is much more developed over here than in the US, the market in Europe is quite different. It would be interesting to see what will happen.

I think Apple will release the EDGE iPhone in November in Germany and then somewhere before the mid of 2008 release the 3G revision (along with the first release in Asia).
 
T-Mobile, D. Telekom Land German iPhone Distribution Rights

According to news recently published via Reuters, T-Mobile - the mobile division of Germany’s D. Telekom - has landed distribution rights to the iPhone in Germany. T-Mobile will be the exclusive carrier of the Apple iPhone in Germany.

The brief indicates that the iPhone will go on sale in Germany on November 1st of this year and will retail for $450 Euros ($612 USD).

Though previous rumors have suggested that the first iPhone introduced in Europe will be a 3G HSDPA iPhone, there has been no confirmation exactly what version of the iPhone T-Mobile will be selling in Germany.

The 2.5G (EDGE) version of the iPhone, which went on sale on June 29th in the United States, is estimated by some analysts to have sold over 700,000 units in it’s first 3 days.

However, considering the maturity of European mobile services as compared to the US, one would imagine a 2.5G version of the iPhone would have little appeal to European consumers.
 
kaos said:
No iPhone (yet). I carry a Blackberry for work, and really prefer a small phone for myself. Sticking with my Krzr for now.

Bushmills - I'll pick up some 16yr on the way home tonight.

Cheers!
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And drink whisky with her? Ain't that sorta illegal?
 
phatspider said:
To be honest then the way you use your phone i wouldnt bother with the iphone. I use 3G at least once a day either for web access, wap access or email on my phone. In fact if its not HSDPA 3G I think Apple would be missing a trick
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Why not? I do use email and WAP on my phone, and the basic HTML stuff my phone will handle. It's very handy when I'm out sailing to be able to access the weather whenever seeing as the shipping forcast is only given twice a day. You don't normally get 3G coverage out there either. I also live in the sticks, where there's little to no 3G coverage. If we have an unlimited data plan, it really doesn't bother me setting the phone to receive emails while I go and tend to the helm or play with the sheets.
 
Philsy said:
You'll be fine, just keep away from airport doors ;)
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My biggest threat of death in London came from crossing the streets. As you are about to step off the curb, don't forget to look RIGHT -- that is where the killer car will come from.
 
European iPhone deal to be announced when US sales hit one million

European iPhone deal to be announced when US sales hit one million
Sales estimates suggest it could be as soon as the end of the week

3 July 2007 - All was quiet on Monday following predictions of a big Apple announcement to confirm Vodafone, T-Mobile and Carphone Warehouse as the joint three vendors of the iPhone in Europe, but according to Newswireless.net, who broke the story, there's a good reason...

Apple is hoping to announce successful sales figures of one million iPhones sold by Thursday, which sources say will be the moment to reveal the European iPhone deal.

Quoting German sources, Guy Kewney says that so far the deal has been held up by legal wranglings, he quotes his sources:

"What we're hearing is that there was a contract drawn up in Germany; but that when Vodafone's Newbury lawyers saw it, they said they weren't signing a contract under German law, and it had to be re-drafted under UK legislation."

Apple has yet to announce official sales figures for the iPhone, although there is no doubt that the launch was a success with the most recent estimates from industry analysts coming in at 700,000 sold so far.

Apparently completed "activation" of iPhone accounts on the AT&T network shows 600,000 active users.

This would mean that if Newswireless.net's German sources are on the money, it could be as soon as the end of the week to hear those golden words: "iPhone", "Europe" and "3G"...
 
hdasmith said:
Why not? I do use email and WAP on my phone, and the basic HTML stuff my phone will handle. It's very handy when I'm out sailing to be able to access the weather whenever seeing as the shipping forcast is only given twice a day. You don't normally get 3G coverage out there either. I also live in the sticks, where there's little to no 3G coverage. If we have an unlimited data plan, it really doesn't bother me setting the phone to receive emails while I go and tend to the helm or play with the sheets.
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fair do's - guess i'm spoilt - i live (and work) in the vodafone homeland of newbury and use 3g all the time. plus use it on my laptop with a plug in usb modem - its now pretty much a permanent fixture in my macbook pro
 
Philsy said:
Apparently, London has the best wifi coverage of any city in the world.

That's not a bad idea including wifi with a service plan; does AT&T do that in the US? Still think you'd need 3G, though.
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No doubt, as a stop gap measure it might be good :)

If they don't release a 3G model in Asia it might be a good way to keep customer numbers up, as there are open networks everywhere - makes it good if you happen to have a Macbook in your bag ;)
 
yeeehaaaah

:) i`m with t-mobile and i feared i`d have to switch to vodafone or even worse (to o2)

no UMTS is a no-go!! noone would want EDGE an a phone like that in Europe!

but didn`t apple say, they chose EDGE over UMTS because the 3G chips raped batterylife? :) that would mean less batterylife in europe? hmm

anyways - i`ll buy one and i`m the only one i know, who will :)
 
C3POh said:
European iPhone deal to be announced when US sales hit one million
Sales estimates suggest it could be as soon as the end of the week

3 July 2007 - All was quiet on Monday following predictions of a big Apple announcement to confirm Vodafone, T-Mobile and Carphone Warehouse as the joint three vendors of the iPhone in Europe, but according to Newswireless.net, who broke the story, there's a good reason...

Apple is hoping to announce successful sales figures of one million iPhones sold by Thursday, which sources say will be the moment to reveal the European iPhone deal.

Quoting German sources, Guy Kewney says that so far the deal has been held up by legal wranglings, he quotes his sources:

"What we're hearing is that there was a contract drawn up in Germany; but that when Vodafone's Newbury lawyers saw it, they said they weren't signing a contract under German law, and it had to be re-drafted under UK legislation."

Apple has yet to announce official sales figures for the iPhone, although there is no doubt that the launch was a success with the most recent estimates from industry analysts coming in at 700,000 sold so far.

Apparently completed "activation" of iPhone accounts on the AT&T network shows 600,000 active users.

This would mean that if Newswireless.net's German sources are on the money, it could be as soon as the end of the week to hear those golden words: "iPhone", "Europe" and "3G"...
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Are you quoting this from somewhere else? If so, then it would be nice to provide links to the sources :). Thanks.
 
Plutonius said:
Apple has an exclusive agreement with AT&T in the states. Either switch to AT&T or wait till the agreement runs out (5 years I believe) and hope that T-Mobile in the states picks up the iPhone.
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True, exclusive - but for how long? Nobody outside of Apple elite knows. Exlusivity could be for 90 days as far as we know. 2 years? 5 years? It's anybody's guess.
 
phatspider said:
So maybe Voda and T Mob will get it in Germany then - and the same in UK and other parts of Europe?
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I don't know but i can tell you that I know a lot of people who really dislike Vodafone. Vodafone is also famouse for making a really ugly branding on the phones. I guess that Apple will say No to this, if they make the deal :D
 
Hehe

adrian84 said:
not, not the same language but quite close. dutch sounds like a weired mixture between german and english. i was once sitting in a train next to a dutch couple and constantly wondering whether they were german or british. it took me literally half an hour to figure out that they were dutch.....
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Well, just don't say "Gesundheit" everytime you hear a dutchman speak :D
 
I think everyone's missing the point of all of this.
WHY GERMANY FIRST???? IT'S NOT FAIR!:(

I believe it's going to have to be 3G. Even Spain (we're the most behind anyone in Europe) has a massive 3G network. I don't see them changing anything else though about it.
 
Not anybody's guess...

4God said:
True, exclusive - but for how long? Nobody outside of Apple elite knows. Exlusivity could be for 90 days as far as we know. 2 years? 5 years? It's anybody's guess.
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Stan Sigman (AT&T Mobility head) said on stage at Macworld that it is a multi-year exclusive partnership.
 
min_t said:
What do you guys need with a video camera on a phone?
Start saving your money. No iPhone subsidies.
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How else are you going to film bomb attacks? :D

Seriously, a video camera on a phone is very useful for times when you don't have a real camcorder with you. You can also MMS video clips. I tell you, a top-price phone without video will flop.
 
Compile 'em all said:
That's because you have a Sony Ericsson, and this thread is about the iPhone which is trying to push the envelope as far as data goes.

The point is whether Apple will pull out a 3G iPhone this November or not. 3G is much more developed over here than in the US, the market in Europe is quite different. It would be interesting to see what will happen.

I think Apple will release the EDGE iPhone in November in Germany and then somewhere before the mid of 2008 release the 3G revision (along with the first release in Asia).
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What's wrong with SonyEricsson? Much better than Nokia. Actually they're all much a like as they all got together and formed another company to make the OS. All they really do is skin the OS for their phone. This is where Apple is really different. They've created a much better OS for a phone. Data rates have little to do with it.

I realise that 3G has better coverage here, but that doesn't mean it's used. When I'm not sailing or living in the sticks, I'm in Newcastle where I'm studying electronic engineering. I'm normally the first person that buys a new piece of technology. 3G didn't do anything for me. Wi-fi is much more important. In Newcastle I'm always in a hotspot. Outside Newcastle I'm never in a 3G area.

I actually can see it makes sense for T-Mobile to carry the iPhone here as well, as they do have the highest number of hotspots of all the carriers. If the data plan includes access to those hotspots, then perfect.
 
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