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Tech YouTubers Share First Impressions of New Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

Apple has sent the machines to their favorite fashion youtubers. Maybe it would be better if they thought about real PRO? I am a PRO, but I don't have to look pretty on film and never buy this equipment, because it's 5 times too expensive.
 
I love to see YouTubers talking about the Mac Pro and Pro Display as something they'd ever need... "Wow this 6K HDR monitor and 57 core machine will be so good for editing my YouTube videos in Final Cut Pro, and the vertical screen orientation will be great for blogging" but I'd be more interested in seeing colorists, VFX artists and people who work in the post production industry review them, since it's kind of made for them.

For example, one issue I'm seeing with the pro display is how it will run with DaVinci Resolve. Since Resolve uses the UltraMonitor box to communicate with the display, which only has an SDI and HDMI output, and the Pro Display having none of those industry standard outputs... how the hell do you use this with Resolve? Supposedly a direct competitor to reference monitors, it doesn't have SDI which every single reference monitor in the Universe has.
 
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neuropsychguy said:
You have to look at score per core (the top scores are 128 cores): https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/multicore

The Mac Pro is in line with what you expect for the processor (meaning, as fast as you can get with a somewhat standard computer): https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks
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Hmmm- 28core machine here - https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/222768
Another here https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/385857
And another https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/651694

So it's a mid range performance on a machine costing over triple the price?
 
I'm just a photographer (with occasional video editing) so my needs are meager, but I'm awfully curious...what user would need a machine like this?
 
Digital Dude said:
There was a time when I would take out a 2nd mortgage to buy a new MacPro. I still have my last MacPro tower sitting in the original box, and it was great! Likewise, I also have the first Intel-based Mac laptop. Today, I admire the new MacPro 'LOOK,' but I no longer trust the reliability of Apple software and hardware. I'm still having issues with my 2017 MacBook Pro after the atrocious update 10.15.x, and yes, I have another defective keyboard key.

Regrettably, I may never buy another Apple product. That hurts as I have nearly every product they make. My iPhone XS Max, with the equally appalling iOS 13.2.3, is still causing me frustration. I suppose I became jaded by decades of love and somewhat trouble-free issues in my 36-years (no typo) of being an Apple consumer. Today, I feel entirely different. I wish the best of luck to those that acquire the new sexy MacPro.
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I'm in the same boat, and same age range.

I am building my first PC ever, a 32 Core threadripper machine (I frustratingly have all the parts except the CPU which is back ordered until God knows when) but with a 32 Core 3.7GHz, 128 GB RAM, RTX 2080ti plus cooler, PSU, case, Windows OS etc, I am at about $5500.

The closest I could price the new Mac Pro to that was $16,000, and that Mac Pro had "only" 28 cores at 2.7GHz and 96GB RAM. (No, I don't have ECC RAM but please, if you are already formulating your defense of Apple PLEASE please please stop. I'm animating, not trying to run cancer simulations. And neither is anyone buying this machine).

There is no way that $16,000 Mac Pro will perform 3x faster than my machine, and odds are it will be equal or slower in most respects.

I'm not saying the $60,000 version won't be nice, but seriously.
I can add 3 more RTX 2080Ti's for Redshift Rendering and still be $7000 under, with insane performance.

This machine is insulting to most pros, and shows Apple to be the elitist company most PC users always thought it was, and this seriously hurts to say as I am so into Apple it hurts.

Please don't hurt me.
 
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lantree said:
For once I was impressed by iJustine's video for a change.
When she was shooting and editing the three 8k Red camera footage video.
I'm not a video editor by trade more of a sound person ,but it showed what this machine can do.
The cringe bit was the hugging of the display.
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Right, because Youtubers need 8k Red camera. Youtube kids obviously have more money than brains. I'd love to see MKBHD and this wench make a living doing anything of substance or value.
 
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vir2l2k said:
look at the rich youtuber kids getting a pro machine. like dogs with a chess board. give it to the real pros please. also it’s ironic how bad youtube compresses ijustines 8k video it looks worse than on an iphone. i wonder whether the 20 employees doing the real work also got sponsored pro machines.
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Or even more ironic that we can't watch 'only' 4k in YT on Safari...
 
Heavy simulations are typically made on massive Linux clusters. So is rendering of animated movies.

Mac Pro 7,1 is for video editors and people with special gear. Think TV networks, movie post production companies and the like. Smaller simulations could be performed by fringe groups, like medical researchers.

Mac Pro 7,1 is not for the prosumer, though. It is not faster than an iMac or a Mac Mini for more regular workloads, and in fact the specs posted so far are rather underwhelming in that regard. That is not how this beast should be evaluated.

For 98% of professions, you get a lot more bang for the bucks by chaining a few Mac Minis with eGPUs.

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Or doing heavy simulation work
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Bandaman said:
Don't be jealous.
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Why he/she would be jealous? She/iJustine is just ignorant. MP itself is nothing to go crazy about. Display is much more interesting. I've seen servers with xeon CPUs and bunch of cores (32) and 1TB RAM. These guys/gals never worked in enterprise environment. Going nuts like this is funny. I've seen their storage projects. iJustine adds nothing of value.
 
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rmoliv said:
In the other thread some people told me these are review units that they do not keep, however I don't think that's the case. Anyway, I think this device in particular should be reviewed by actual pros, people who work in the film, music industries, etc.
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People who actually won't review these units because that's not actually their job.

I can somewhat understand the animosity (<cough>jealousy<cough> ) but what sense would it make for Apple to only provide units to non-media generating users? All of these YTers have millions of subscribers. Of course the sample units are going where the eyeballs are. 'Joe blow animator' isn't generating a lick of publicity about the Mac Pro.

And who says they didn't give a bunch of pros in these industries units to test drive? That's my point...they're not going talk about it publicly.
 
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Can someone help me out here?

iJustine shot her thing in 8K. Ok, whatever.

None of her displays are 8k (and 99% of her viewers will every watch the videos in 8k).

So....how can you edit video 1) you don't have the physical capacity to display properly and 2) that none of your audience will ever be able to watch properly?

What's the point? She might as well have just shot in 4K.
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tbayrgs said:
People who actually won't review these units because that's not actually their job.

I can somewhat understand the animosity (<cough>jealousy<cough> ) but what sense would it make for Apple to only provide units to non-media generating users? All of these YTers have millions of subscribers. Of course the sample units are going where the eyeballs are. 'Joe blow animator' isn't generating a lick of publicity about the Mac Pro.

And who says they didn't give a bunch of pros in these industries units to test drive? That's my point...they're not going talk about it publicly.
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BUT....

They did give the 16 inch MBP to those types of people---it's all over their marketing (Thor Oakenfelder or whatever).

Wondering if we'll get marketing material aimed at those folks.
 
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cardfan said:
This and other reasons are why we see so many a bit upset.

This isn’t for you. Never was. Ok sure. But why on earth would Apple market this the same way they do their consumer products? And give it to reviewers who have no clue and appeal to average consumers?

I grabbed a monitor. It’s a luxury purchase for me. But I’m fine with it. I even grabbed AppleCare. But that’s what’s wrong. If it breaks I want something more than to have to mail it off or lug into a store. Apple should be sending someone to take care of it. This needs to be AppleCare pro. Likewise with a Mac pro.

These are just different animals and support, marketing should be different as well.
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You know, Apple DOES offer on site AppleCare support for desktop machines.

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spiderman0616 said:
YouTube techie culture has become super harmful IMHO.

a) They're not really experts on any of the stuff they're talking about--they are just good at shooting/editing video. Some of them are kind of funny sometimes, but I find most of them to be absolutely insufferable, self important, and arrogant.

b) They will say literally anything to generate clicks, subscriptions, and affiliate link clicks. Their very livelihoods depend on those three things.

c) Because of the first two reasons, you're not really getting good information from them. You're just hearing what they need you to hear in order for them to stay in business on YouTube.

I use YouTube for a lot of different things, but getting good information on tech, especially when it comes to Apple stuff, is not one of them.
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Youtubers have an audience they too need to cater to. Doing the sort of thing you mentioned would very likely alienate their followers, who are likely the mass consumer without that much tech knowledge to begin with. Start throwing out specs and numbers and you will likely start boring them.

And the people who are in the market for a Mac Pro will not be basing their purchasing decisions on a random YouTube video on the web anyways.

Take it for what it is - entertainment.
 
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