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Tech YouTubers Share First Impressions of New Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR
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Except for that MacOS part. This MP can run Xcode infinitely faster than the threadripper build, since Xcode doesn't run on that hardware...unless the hackintosh guys got things to work.
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That is pretty simple to explain. If you shoot in 8k you have way more flexibility in post production. So you can basically frame your shots new, crop in on your images and don't have any loss in quality.
Also don't get the hate for these youtubers. Surely it's not their fault being successful and getting used by Apple for marketing. I'm not aware what the usecase for this mac pro is (probably sfx / 3d studios, gaming development, research etc.) but handling 8k usage it not so far off the "real world professional usage" I did read a couple of times here.
Back when 4k wasn't yet a thing, I heard MKBHD rationalise it was 4k giving him more flexibility in editing and exporting the video. Like you get better quality exporting a 4k video into a 1080p video vs filming in 1080p and doing likewise.
I imagine it's the same thing here. Filming and editing in 8k gives you a better quality 4k video than simply filming in 4k.
Exactly. Pros know whether they want this...or, not. As for those who don’t need it, but, will buy it because they can afford it...they were getting it...either way.
He's too "pro" for what Apple's marketing dept is going for. They'd rather have iJustine "Ooh-ing" and "ahh-ing."
God how I wish Apple would provide review machines to some other class of content producers than these ‘safe’ YouTube tech reviewers.
I’m tired of hearing them talk about how fast they can edit/compress their YouTube 4K/8K footage.
There is a whole other world out there of different professional content creators who use heavy lifting software that could really shine on this machine. 3D DCC tools such as Houdini, C4D, Maya, Substance, Mari, Blender, or Nuke, Katana, Clarisse. But we never get to hear about them because they are not on Apple’s radar at all. Which is sad, because while the Visual Effects industry might be niche, its output is vast, prominent and of the highest order of creativity.
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Why indeed. It’s not exactly as if her admittedly large audience consists of potential Mac Pro customers.
Pretty odd and tasteless move from Apple marketing.
I’m tired of hearing them talk about how fast they can edit/compress their YouTube 4K/8K footage.
There is a whole other world out there of different professional content creators who use heavy lifting software that could really shine on this machine. 3D DCC tools such as Houdini, C4D, Maya, Substance, Mari, Blender, or Nuke, Katana, Clarisse. But we never get to hear about them because they are not on Apple’s radar at all. Which is sad, because while the Visual Effects industry might be niche, its output is vast, prominent and of the highest order of creativity.
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Why indeed. It’s not exactly as if her admittedly large audience consists of potential Mac Pro customers.
Pretty odd and tasteless move from Apple marketing.
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You have the prices of those computers available? That first computer has a $1800 motherboard (https://www.anandtech.com/show/1397...-extreme-motherboard-more-xeon-cpus-supported), the processor is about $3200, a
d we'll say about $486 for 96 GB RAM (https://www.newegg.com/crucial-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/1YU-00WG-00002?Item=1YU-00WG-00002). That's about $5500 without a power supply, case, etc. We'll put in a 1200w PSU for $300 and a case with good thermals for about $190. I'm not sure how much the Radeon Pro 580X costs (it's not just a $200 580) -- maybe $400 or $500. Add in more for an enterprise-class SSD.
Okay, so now we have comparable performance for over $6000 (we'll assume we will run Linux and don't need the networking or expansion capabilities of the Mac Pro). The comparable Mac Pro costs $14,000. So you could build something that on paper performs better for about 1/2 the cost. Then you have to build and support it. If that's what you want to use in a production environment, go ahead. Other people will want to buy something they don't have to put together themselves.
Well, I did see a video today that had Logic X running over a 100 tracks of music while playing back full 8k video at with all 28 cores lit up and running flawlessly at the same time. I think its in one of the videos above. (The one hugging the it.)
The base configuration has 256GB SSD... in a $6,000 computer. I understand the process is costly but the graphics card is not. I mean, it's not terrible but honestly not particularly strong either. The RX 5700X blows this one away. You get decent amount or ram, but the value is not there for me.
totally agree there are benefits on paper for sure. But from someone who spent 7k£ on the 6,1 model top spec, and having had a continuous issue with it since 2016 with no repair working. I'm still waiting for apple to do something about it. So I'm seldom likely to pay even more for this one when I can't even get the one I've got fixed/supported. The irony is apple have verified the issue, seen it themselves, I've even dragged a 4k Thunderbolt Display to store to show them. And here we are. Repored under warranty in 2016. Started the process again in April this year, and here we are in December. It's a joke. So god only knows if you spent I dunno 50K on this Mac, you'd better be expecting a **** tonne more of support when it goes wrong. Because it will.
Or, they know something that we don't regarding what's coming down the pipeline. Or... not.
Yeah but you don’t need this for Xcode. A Mac mini can run Xcode. iMac Pro if you’re in a hurry.
and even if you did want this for Xcode, you don’t need the $60,000 version, you can use the base model, and that base model should cost $3000.
I'm pretty sure Hans Zimmer has one of these. Ha! As well as countless other ginormous engineers, music producers etc.
To be fair these YouTubers are just QVC type salespeople reading from spec sheets...Not esure any of their audience will buy one but it's free advertising for Apple - they stay in the trends and algorithms and the influencers get many many thousands of $ from Apple. Smart
Because of his mods, rumors, and jailbreaks. Apple doesn't like that stuff.
But if you can’t play back the 8k, how would you know? How would anyone know?
its probably me, but I just find this bizarre.
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I don’t hate the you tubers, by the way.
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So, my 5k iMac, still under AppleCare, is eligible? Because I had to take that giant f*cker in twice for screen repairs....
Extra sharpness, ability to crop and zoom, I am not going to pretend I understand how youtubers like MKBHD even begin to rationalise the purchase of an expensive 8k RED camera for their work, but I am going to assume that it's worth it somehow.
"Hot", especially in this case, is also highly subjective. Unless you mean she looks like she needs an iced beverage.
This is simple to explain. These YouTubers provide great marketing awareness and results for Apple.
I’m a pro, and have worked in the entertainment and photography industries for nearly 20 years, and on some of the biggest films ever: Toy Story 3, Wall-E, Up, Frozen 2, Harry Potter 3, etc.
Do I dream of having a machine like this at home? Yes. Would I use the actual productivity gains that I could get out of having this at home? Perhaps. Can I afford it? Nope.
I’d be able to do a more thorough review in using these machines for film and photography, but I have no followers so what’s the benefit for Apple? None.
Most artists doing the actual work on these films are on the same boat. The money (and marketing) is in the studios, film directors, producers, celebrities, and influencers.
it’s a great machine though. Just definitely not for most people.
I’m a pro, and have worked in the entertainment and photography industries for nearly 20 years, and on some of the biggest films ever: Toy Story 3, Wall-E, Up, Frozen 2, Harry Potter 3, etc.
Do I dream of having a machine like this at home? Yes. Would I use the actual productivity gains that I could get out of having this at home? Perhaps. Can I afford it? Nope.
I’d be able to do a more thorough review in using these machines for film and photography, but I have no followers so what’s the benefit for Apple? None.
Most artists doing the actual work on these films are on the same boat. The money (and marketing) is in the studios, film directors, producers, celebrities, and influencers.
it’s a great machine though. Just definitely not for most people.