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My take
1) I have no interest in a folding phone, that I left when I got rid of my Motorola StarTac
2) I’ve never owned a Samsung phone, but I do have a Samsung S8 Ultra tablet (got it at a snip off eBay second hand) and the amount of non removable Samsung bloat on the thing is horrendous. I’d never want a phone from them as a result. Though I do appreciate my free year of Disney Plus I got from it.
 
I always thought Samsung openly mocking Apple was in bad taste. They manufacture a lot of the internal components for the iPhone, and they get a cut out of it. Sounds like a good deal for Samsung if you ask me. But I do understand the hate, I think the gap between iPhone users vs. Samsung has been getting wider in the US at least, with the iPhone pulling away.
 
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Of course, Apple doesn’t make displays, they buy Samsung displays. If I were Apple, I’d copy this ad almost identically but finish with:

“We wait. We wait for Samsung to finish their beta testing program on their phones and have a display worthy of iPhone”
 
I had a customer show me his Samsung Z Fold 4 last week and he was singing its praises and sort of bad-mouthing Apple. He said he's "done" with iPhones . . . not sure what all was behind that--didn't feel like getting into that with him, but he did use the cliche "Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave" phrase, so he's one of "those" Apple fans 🙄 The folding feature definitely is cool, but honestly it was a pretty ugly looking phone when folded up in comparison to an iPhone and very thick, of course, and the folded screen width is too narrow for my tastes. Not my cup of tea, but he sure seemed thrilled with it (whether that will last after the novelty wears off is another matter).
 
Apple needs to catch up with innovation on the hardware front when it comes to iPhone - 120hz panels, AOD etc are years behind.

Apple doesn't try to add every possible feature as implemented by every single mobile phone competitor out there. That would be crazy.

They wait until they can launch it in the desired quantity at the desired quality. For example, Apple's always-on-display is different from any Android implementation, to the point where many reviewers commented how they were having trouble getting used to their phone always looking like it was "on".

If you try to support something in the massive quantity of say an iPhone release without having quality standards, you quickly turn into the McDonald's of phones.

The buzz of iPhone is a fraction of what it was a decade ago and people are hungry for 'new', not just trivial updates (iPhone 14 I'm looking at you). Imagine the buzz for a foldable iPhone.
A decade ago my parents got their first iPhone. It will be hard for them to have the same reaction going from an XS to a 15 next year.

Now that smartphones are ubiquitous and an essential part of our lives, we look at them in much the same way as cars. Sure, sometimes you'll pick up your first EV and say "oh man this changes everything". Other times, you remark how the speakers sound better than your last model.

But that's just Apple catching up with Samsung - Apple needs to lead the way and introduce new tech before their rivals.
First with a notch, first to remove the headphone jack, first to pull the charger out of the box.

You might just not like the direction they are leading ;-)
 
I had a foldable Nokia (I think) around 2000 or so. Does that count? Do this is back to the future? Or...something?
 
I’ve yet to actually see anyone actually owning a folding phone.
[shrug] Look harder? I've gone to parties where I was the only person who had an Android phone. I've gone to other ones where amongst 30 of us, only 1 or 2 people had iPhones. If you're in a big city or some densely populated area, then I can see this then.
 
Look at all this Apple funded comments up there.
sent on an iPhone .
XD
 
There's an important distinction. The Get a Mac campaign focused on the Mac's strengths, rather than PC's weaknesses. Go watch them again. The PC made a fool of himself all on his own, and it was amusing. 🤣
You’re clearly delusional. Following your logic… ok this ad never once mentions they are talking about iPhones… just the same as the “Get a Mac” campaign never targets a specific PC maker… just PC. So they could be talking about all other phone manufacturers that don’t yet have folding phones… including Google, Nokia, HTC...

Let’s push it further and use your own argument against you again, these people are clearly “brand sheep” and make fun of themselves with the “we wait”… sorry if that’s what Apple does, but so do plenty of other phone manufacturers as stated above.

People like you will literally say ANYTHING to be right and defend Apple. Grow up. Apple did the same thing that’s being done in this ad. It’s an ad, if you don’t like it or it doesn’t resonate with you… you’re free to ignore it. But don’t get all riotous and say Apple never did that, because I can prove you wrong with plenty of their ad material, you clearly were not around for some of their full page ads in the 80s and 90s.
 
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Curious: is it the hardware, OS or both that you find great?
Both, something different, innovative and interesting. Ofc, it's not polished like iOS, but it's not all bad. To be honest I got bored with iPhones after 15 years. Foldables still have a long way to go, both hardware and software, but I was willing to try. I am good. I don't live in US and don't rely on iMessage and it's much easier to jump ship.

Also, I am not here for silly Samsung commercials... I don't watch TV or have ads playing anywhere...
 
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Hi, I'm a PC.
It is a good point, but not for exactly the reason you think.

One of the amazing things about that campaign was how successful it was and how long it ran, considering how difficult the concept was to pull off and not have people walking away thinking you were belittling or that you had just been insulted.'

Generally the conversation talked toward the benefit of a Mac - while sometimes saying the benefit was no Viruses or no Vista UAC prompts, often it was touting the presence of say the bundled iLife suite.

Even then, there were a lot of people who thought that John Hodgman character wasn't there to represent a personified Windows computer bought for its business uses, but there to represent all Windows users.

I don't think Samsung is being exceptionally mean-spirited or the like in these commercials, but the problem is they typically don't really illustrate why I should care about the feature Samsung is touting. The argument for folding Samsung phones appears to be 'because Apple hasn't made a folding phone yet', not that it fits in pockets better or something. So while they aren't trying to come off as mean-spirited, thats really all thats there.
 
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I guess the funny issue with Samsung’s attack ads is that they never seem to age well in the long run. If we follow this current trend of “Samsung first mocks, then proceeds to ape the competition”, it may just be a matter of time before Samsung recognises foldables for the lost cause it is and shutter the product category completely.

And my guess is that this might happen shortly after AR glasses are released by Apple.
 
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Apple doesn't try to add every possible feature as implemented by every single mobile phone competitor out there. That would be crazy.

They wait until they can launch it in the desired quantity at the desired quality. For example, Apple's always-on-display is different from any Android implementation, to the point where many reviewers commented how they were having trouble getting used to their phone always looking like it was "on".

If you try to support something in the massive quantity of say an iPhone release without having quality standards, you quickly turn into the McDonald's of phones.

There is a reason why Apple got the market loyalty they did. And that was with great innovation, best quality and ahead of the pack.

If people remember Microsoft when they got so big with Win95, 98 etc…. They could only make small changes because they had so much market share. A big change would be a massive disruption. Apple are now the same (generally) with iPhones. They can only make iterative changes.

The massive changes to design is best coming from companies who don’t care so much about quality. Obviously Samsung fit in this area. You can just look at version 1 of the flip and the fold to verify that. This enables Apple to 'test the market’ without having a failed product and also allows them to have time to actually do it right, if they choose to do it.

With so much loyalty and responsibility comes a slower progression, with a responsibility to the product and the customer.
Not allowed to say anything about that, because it defeats the moral high ground so many in this thread are trying to take.
Bring it on. There’s no moral high ground here, any more than people crying on an apple forum trying to fake it until they make it.
 
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I’m interested in the Galaxy Flip. Basically because I find most phones to be too big these days, and the Flip is a solution for this (of sorts). I don’t buy flagship phones, but as soon as Samsung releases a midrange version of the Flip I will probably switch to it (especially if the next iPhone SE moves to a 6” or above screen size).

I‘m not interested in the Galaxy Fold or any phone that’s also trying to be a tablet.
 
Is folding phones "innovation". Samsung made a flip phone...with a quite-apparent crease on the screen.

Can Apple use LIDAR and AR to project/mirror a larger iPhone screen on another surface...
 
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